Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Apr 11 18:08:09 2004 Can one criticize dvd+rw-tools for so to say sweeping the bug under the carpet, which might have indirectly complicated life for other applications and their developers? Well, one could *if* it was done silently. But it wasn't. Thorough problem

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Julien Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok. The media I bought are as follow: - TDK DVD-RW single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-2x; - TDK DVD-R single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-4x. Is there anything wrong whith these types of media? Advices? The medium quality should be OK. So it should become

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your message is not helpful at all! Why did you send it? Because you are harsh to everyone, whether they are new to the list, old to the list, have any expertise or none. The purpose of my posting was to urge the poster to continue to pursue his problems,

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Geoffrey
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your message is not helpful at all! Why did you send it? Because you are harsh to everyone, whether they are new to the list, old to the list, have any expertise or none. The purpose of my posting was to urge the poster to continue to

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 01:24:51PM -0400, Geoffrey wrote: That being said, I'll not take up any more of your precious time with further responses to this thread. Would people _please_ stop picking on Joerg. It should be quite obvious that if a) people don't read documentation, or b)

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Andy Polyakov
most likely means that your media is poorly supported by your firmware. Then 3/11/05 L-EC UNCORRECTABLE ERROR doesn't make much sense either... What media is it anyway (see dvd+rw-mediainfo output for Media ID)? Poor media support manifests itself in most bizarre ways. There were reports that

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Andy Polyakov
Can one criticize dvd+rw-tools for so to say sweeping the bug under the carpet, which might have indirectly complicated life for other applications and their developers? Well, one could *if* it was done silently. But it wasn't. Thorough problem analysis was presented to the public on a FreeBSD

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Andy Polyakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you did know about the bug before I did, I may well critisize you: Why didn't you send a bug report I'm ready to accept criticism as soon as somebody can point out what was it in the referred post, which discredits it as as a bug report? Note that

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Julien Gabel
Ok. The media I bought are as follow: - TDK DVD-RW single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-2x; - TDK DVD-R single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-4x. Is there anything wrong whith these types of media? Advices? The medium quality should be OK. So it should become usable by cdrecord after you did run

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Apr 11 18:08:09 2004 Can one criticize dvd+rw-tools for so to say sweeping the bug under the carpet, which might have indirectly complicated life for other applications and their developers? Well, one could *if* it was done silently. But it wasn't. Thorough problem

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Julien Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok. The media I bought are as follow: - TDK DVD-RW single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-2x; - TDK DVD-R single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-4x. Is there anything wrong whith these types of media? Advices? The medium quality should be OK. So it should become

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your message is not helpful at all! Why did you send it? Because you are harsh to everyone, whether they are new to the list, old to the list, have any expertise or none. The purpose of my posting was to urge the poster to continue to pursue his problems,

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Geoffrey
Joerg Schilling wrote: From: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your message is not helpful at all! Why did you send it? Because you are harsh to everyone, whether they are new to the list, old to the list, have any expertise or none. The purpose of my posting was to urge the poster to continue to

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 01:24:51PM -0400, Geoffrey wrote: That being said, I'll not take up any more of your precious time with further responses to this thread. Would people _please_ stop picking on Joerg. It should be quite obvious that if a) people don't read documentation, or b)

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Andy Polyakov
most likely means that your media is poorly supported by your firmware. Then 3/11/05 L-EC UNCORRECTABLE ERROR doesn't make much sense either... What media is it anyway (see dvd+rw-mediainfo output for Media ID)? Poor media support manifests itself in most bizarre ways. There were reports that

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Andy Polyakov
Can one criticize dvd+rw-tools for so to say sweeping the bug under the carpet, which might have indirectly complicated life for other applications and their developers? Well, one could *if* it was done silently. But it wasn't. Thorough problem analysis was presented to the public on a FreeBSD

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-13 Thread Julien Gabel
Ok. The media I bought are as follow: - TDK DVD-RW single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-2x; - TDK DVD-R single-sided Data/Video 4.7GB 1-4x. Is there anything wrong whith these types of media? Advices? The medium quality should be OK. So it should become usable by cdrecord after you did run

Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
Hello, I am using a TEAC DV-W22E R.0A on my notebook, which is a all in one CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW player and writer. My main OS is FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELEASE-p4) and I already succeed in: - write CD-R (cdrecord); - write/rewrite CD-RW (cdrecord); - write a DVD-R (growisofs). But it seems

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Julien Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using a TEAC DV-W22E R.0A on my notebook, which is a all in one CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW player and writer. My main OS is FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELEASE-p4) and I already succeed in: - write CD-R (cdrecord); - write/rewrite CD-RW (cdrecord); - write a DVD-R

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
I am using a TEAC DV-W22E R.0A on my notebook, which is a all in one CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW player and writer. My main OS is FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELEASE-p4) and I already succeed in: - write CD-R (cdrecord); - write/rewrite CD-RW (cdrecord); - write a DVD-R (growisofs). But it seems _not_possible_

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Julien Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] It does not seem that you really used cdrecord-ProDVD! If you don't use it and give error messages, it is hard to help Ok, sorry for the _bad_ information. Here is what I get if I try to use cdrecord-ProDVD (obtained from

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
If you ever did format it, you _need_ to run cdrecord blank=full to make it usable again. I get the following error trying to blank the DVD-RW media: You areusing a defektive kernel! Your kernel does not implement ATAPI CAP auto sense which is required. Upgrade to a fixed kernel Ouch! If

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Pav Lucistnik
V ne, 11. 04. 2004 v 13:47, Joerg Schilling pe: If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! There was a deficiency in kernel that it does not provided sense codes automatically, as required by

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! Ok, I understand that you are *not* responsible for the FreeBSD part, but since you said it is a FreeBSD kernel bug and since you provide a binary

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Geoffrey
Julien Gabel wrote: If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! Ok, I understand that you are *not* responsible for the FreeBSD part, but since you said it is a FreeBSD kernel bug and since you

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're new to the list, you'll find that Joerg is quite vocal regarding OS's that are not his favorite... Unfortunately, inspite of I don't have favorite OS, but I don't like kernel teams that piss at you which is only the case for Linux! FreeBSD

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
If you're new to the list, you'll find that Joerg is quite vocal regarding OS's that are not his favorite... Unfortunately, inspite of I don't have favorite OS, but I don't like kernel teams that piss at you which is only the case for Linux! FreeBSD developers usually take care about

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Andy Polyakov
TEAC DV-W22E R.0A But it seems _not_possible_ to write (or rewrite or blank etc.) a DVD-RW. dvd+rw-tools-5.19.4.9.7 1/ For example, when I try to blank a DVD-RW in sequential mode, I get: # dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/cd0 * DVD±RW format utility by [EMAIL PROTECTED], version 4.9. :-(

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Andy Polyakov
dvd+rw-tools were teached to obtain sense information from kernel manually, so they fully work on 5.2.1. cdrecord relies on working autosense and thus don't work on 5.2.1. I would call this behavior of dvd+rw-tools a bug as the CAM standard requires auto-sense to work. If FreeBSD is fixed, the

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Geoffrey
Joerg Schilling wrote: Your message is not helpful at all! Why did you send it? Because you are harsh to everyone, whether they are new to the list, old to the list, have any expertise or none. The purpose of my posting was to urge the poster to continue to pursue his problems, inspite of the

Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
Hello, I am using a TEAC DV-W22E R.0A on my notebook, which is a all in one CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW player and writer. My main OS is FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELEASE-p4) and I already succeed in: - write CD-R (cdrecord); - write/rewrite CD-RW (cdrecord); - write a DVD-R (growisofs). But it seems

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Julien Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using a TEAC DV-W22E R.0A on my notebook, which is a all in one CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW player and writer. My main OS is FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELEASE-p4) and I already succeed in: - write CD-R (cdrecord); - write/rewrite CD-RW (cdrecord); - write a DVD-R

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
I am using a TEAC DV-W22E R.0A on my notebook, which is a all in one CD-R/RW and DVD-R/RW player and writer. My main OS is FreeBSD 5.2.1 (RELEASE-p4) and I already succeed in: - write CD-R (cdrecord); - write/rewrite CD-RW (cdrecord); - write a DVD-R (growisofs). But it seems _not_possible_

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Julien Gabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] It does not seem that you really used cdrecord-ProDVD! If you don't use it and give error messages, it is hard to help Ok, sorry for the _bad_ information. Here is what I get if I try to use cdrecord-ProDVD (obtained from

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
If you ever did format it, you _need_ to run cdrecord blank=full to make it usable again. I get the following error trying to blank the DVD-RW media: You areusing a defektive kernel! Your kernel does not implement ATAPI CAP auto sense which is required. Upgrade to a fixed kernel Ouch! If

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Pav Lucistnik
V ne, 11. 04. 2004 v 13:47, Joerg Schilling pe: If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! There was a deficiency in kernel that it does not provided sense codes automatically, as required by

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! Ok, I understand that you are *not* responsible for the FreeBSD part, but since you said it is a FreeBSD kernel bug and since you provide a binary

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Pav Lucistnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! =20 You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! There was a deficiency in kernel that it does not provided sense codes automatically, as required by

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Geoffrey
Julien Gabel wrote: If you need information about FreeBSD kernel bugs, ask the FreeBSD kernel team! You definitely need to replace your kernel with a working one! Ok, I understand that you are *not* responsible for the FreeBSD part, but since you said it is a FreeBSD kernel bug and since you

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
From: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're new to the list, you'll find that Joerg is quite vocal regarding OS's that are not his favorite... Unfortunately, inspite of I don't have favorite OS, but I don't like kernel teams that piss at you which is only the case for Linux! FreeBSD

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
If you're new to the list, you'll find that Joerg is quite vocal regarding OS's that are not his favorite... Unfortunately, inspite of I don't have favorite OS, but I don't like kernel teams that piss at you which is only the case for Linux! FreeBSD developers usually take care about

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Andy Polyakov
TEAC DV-W22E R.0A But it seems _not_possible_ to write (or rewrite or blank etc.) a DVD-RW. dvd+rw-tools-5.19.4.9.7 1/ For example, when I try to blank a DVD-RW in sequential mode, I get: # dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/cd0 * DVD±RW format utility by [EMAIL PROTECTED], version 4.9. :-( failed

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Andy Polyakov
dvd+rw-tools were teached to obtain sense information from kernel manually, so they fully work on 5.2.1. cdrecord relies on working autosense and thus don't work on 5.2.1. I would call this behavior of dvd+rw-tools a bug as the CAM standard requires auto-sense to work. If FreeBSD is fixed, the

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Julien Gabel
Because the three software I try seems not working, I tend to think that this particular writer is not (yet?) supported. Is there something I can do in order to make it working? The fact that you see failed to locate Quick format descriptor alone most likely means that your media is poorly

Re: Problem using a TEAC DV-W22E with dvd+rw-tools/cdrecord-prodvd/dvdrtools.

2004-04-11 Thread Geoffrey
Joerg Schilling wrote: Your message is not helpful at all! Why did you send it? Because you are harsh to everyone, whether they are new to the list, old to the list, have any expertise or none. The purpose of my posting was to urge the poster to continue to pursue his problems, inspite of the