Re: [CentOS] reload /sbin/init

2015-01-08 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/08/2015 10:33 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: The question was specifically about CentOS 6, which uses upstart. SysV init could re-exec itself cleanly. I have no idea, but plenty of doubts, about systemd. "systemctl daemon-reexec" will re-exec systemd. It does mostly the same thing when it

Re: [CentOS] Intel NUC? Any experience

2015-01-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/8/2015 3:40 PM, david wrote: Thanks for your comments. In the particular application, I used the word "server" only in the sense that GUI is only rarely used, and CPU speed isn't an issue. The data the server holds has other "primary" copies elsewhere, so if some corruption or damage occ

Re: [CentOS] Intel NUC? Any experience

2015-01-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, January 8, 2015 5:40 pm, david wrote: > At 01:54 PM 1/8/2015, John R Pierce wrote: >>On 1/8/2015 11:32 AM, david wrote: >>>The price point of Intel's NUC unit makes it attractive to use as a >>>server that doesn't have significant computational load. In my >>>environment, a USB connected

Re: [CentOS] Intel NUC? Any experience

2015-01-08 Thread david
At 01:54 PM 1/8/2015, John R Pierce wrote: On 1/8/2015 11:32 AM, david wrote: The price point of Intel's NUC unit makes it attractive to use as a server that doesn't have significant computational load. In my environment, a USB connected hard-drive could provide all the storage needed. I won

Re: [CentOS] Intel NUC? Any experience

2015-01-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/8/2015 11:32 AM, david wrote: The price point of Intel's NUC unit makes it attractive to use as a server that doesn't have significant computational load. In my environment, a USB connected hard-drive could provide all the storage needed. I wonder if anyone has had experience with it, an

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/8/2015 12:15 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Well it was what I want. Now it's different. the world changes.get over it. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/8/2015 8:44 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: But now that I'm approaching retirement ... is that a promise ? please, hurry up. I, for one, am tired of your diatribes about how change is bad, and I suspect I'm not the only one. -- john r pierce 37N 122W

Re: [CentOS] Customising a CentOS 6.6 installation disk

2015-01-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/8/2015 11:46 AM, Paul wrote: I'm looking for an image for CentOS v7 to download Any suggestion on a suitable website? http://centos.org/download/ which is one click from the centos.org home page. why did you post this as a reply to a thread on customizing a CentOS 6.6 install dis

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > How log do you need to keep saying the same thing. As long as it is right and people keep arguing with it, I guess. > CentOS is now what it has been for 11 years. If that is what you want, > use it. If it is not what you want, use some

Re: [CentOS] Customising a CentOS 6.6 installation disk

2015-01-08 Thread Paul
I'm looking for an image for CentOS v7 to download Any suggestion on a suitable website? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Greg Bailey wrote: > >> On 01/08/2015 11:18 AM, James Bishop wrote: >> I apologise if this is not the appropriate list for the following issue, >> but

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/08/2015 11:23 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Billings > wrote: > >> If we express them >>> here then there is a chance, a small chance but a chance nonetheless, >>> that someone at RH with a view a little broader than that evidenced in >>> most of the t

Re: [CentOS] Intel NUC? Any experience

2015-01-08 Thread Digimer
On 08/01/15 02:32 PM, david wrote: Folks The price point of Intel's NUC unit makes it attractive to use as a server that doesn't have significant computational load. In my environment, a USB connected hard-drive could provide all the storage needed. I wonder if anyone has had experience with i

[CentOS] Intel NUC? Any experience

2015-01-08 Thread david
Folks The price point of Intel's NUC unit makes it attractive to use as a server that doesn't have significant computational load. In my environment, a USB connected hard-drive could provide all the storage needed. I wonder if anyone has had experience with it, and can answer: 1) Does Cen

Re: [CentOS] Customising a CentOS 6.6 installation disk

2015-01-08 Thread Greg Bailey
On 01/08/2015 11:18 AM, James Bishop wrote: I apologise if this is not the appropriate list for the following issue, but... Is it possible to upgrade the Linux kernel on a kickstart CD? I've changed the vmlinuz and initrd.img files in the isolinux directory from the distro's ISO image; so ker

[CentOS] Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)

2015-01-08 Thread Fred Smith
Hi all! Running Centos-6.latest on an AMD six-core Vishera processor. It's been running for a year on that hardware. today I swapped out the video card (from Nvidia 9800GT to Nvidia 460 GTX) hoping to get a little more horsepower, and the ability to run the Folding At Home GPUclient. I know that

Re: [CentOS] reload /sbin/init

2015-01-08 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/08/2015 11:57 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/08/2015 03:22 AM, Markus Falb wrote: Hi, There was an update of glibc on CentOS 6 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-January/020863.html and now: # needs-restarting 1 : /sbin/init How do i tell /

[CentOS] Customising a CentOS 6.6 installation disk

2015-01-08 Thread James Bishop
I apologise if this is not the appropriate list for the following issue, but... Is it possible to upgrade the Linux kernel on a kickstart CD? I've changed the vmlinuz and initrd.img files in the isolinux directory from the distro's ISO image; so kernel 2.6.32-504.3.3.el6.i686 now boots from a

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Warren Young wrote: > > 2. Reduce the amount of effort it takes to maintain a given feature set. > > A lot of work has gone into that. It’s one reason software is moving to > higher- and higher-level languages. Much of the Red Hat specific code in > RHEL is wri

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, January 8, 2015 11:27 am, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 11:11:10AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> Just on a side note: I question intelligence of an attitude that >> something >> (that works for some people) has to be destroyed to make room for >> something else one t

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > I question intelligence of an attitude that something > (that works for some people) has to be destroyed to make room for > something else one thinks to be more appropriate. The amount of actively-maintained software has always matched the ava

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, January 8, 2015 10:44 am, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:48 AM, James B. Byrne > wrote: >> >> A perusal of the contents of both the Fedora devel list and users list >> does not give one much hope that such a point of view would be >> tolerated, much less welcomed. > > Exac

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, January 8, 2015 11:32 am, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, January 8, 2015 10:44 am, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:48 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: >>> >>> A perusal of the contents of both the Fedora devel list and users list does not give one much hope that such a point

Re: [CentOS] Question about Neighbour Table Overflow.

2015-01-08 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 11:38:46PM +0800, zhen wang wrote: > Hi, all > > When use Centos 6.5,kernel version 2.6.431, I have continuous messages of > "Neighbour table overflow" in messages. > I have modified the gc_thresh1(512) , gc_thresh2 (2048) gc_thresh3 (4096) > in /proc/sys/net.. path, But t

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 11:11:10AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Just on a side note: I question intelligence of an attitude that something > (that works for some people) has to be destroyed to make room for > something else one thinks to be more appropriate. Let me start by saying I'm also not a

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > If we express them >> here then there is a chance, a small chance but a chance nonetheless, >> that someone at RH with a view a little broader than that evidenced in >> most of the traffic on the Fedora devel list, might take notice. > >

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 10:48:03AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > After all, because we use CentOS rather than RHEL and forgo the > provision of RH's expert advice, then we ourselves and our > organisations are a self-identified technologically advanced user > community. And we are concerned more

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, January 8, 2015 10:52 am, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Warren Young wrote: >>> >> Would the world really be a better place if CDE had never been replaced? >> Me, I’ll take GNOME 3 and all its warts over CDE any day of the week. >> CDE never would have *evolve

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Warren Young wrote: >> > Would the world really be a better place if CDE had never been replaced? Me, > I’ll take GNOME 3 and all its warts over CDE any day of the week. CDE never > would have *evolved* to be the equal of GNOME; it had to be destroyed to make

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:48 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > these influential people have chosen not to pay RH > for their offering. It might be of some interest to RH in determining > why this is so. I’ll tell you why we don’t subscribe. First, we don’t need their support. We’re quite capable of cop

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:48 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > A perusal of the contents of both the Fedora devel list and users list > does not give one much hope that such a point of view would be > tolerated, much less welcomed. Exactly. They don't care about breakage, only change. In the early d

[CentOS] SSI?

2015-01-08 Thread Steve Thompson
All, What is the state of SSI (single system image) on CentOS 6/7 these days? I'm interested in this at present just for the fun aspect of trying it. Obviously openMosix is no more, but OpenSSI, Kerrighed and LinuxPMI appear to be dormant. TIA, Steve _

Re: [CentOS] logrotate script not working

2015-01-08 Thread Tim Dunphy
> > That's because the MySQL daemon has his hands on the log's file descriptor > and still write the log while it has been moved by logrotate. > You will have to add a command to the logrotate definition which causes > the MySQL daemon to write into a new log file (mysqladmin flush-logs). > https:/

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > There's still a very odd mix of art and science involved. Yes. This is part of what I was getting at with my definition of “technology.” Once a thing becomes reliable, it stops being technology. It’s been reduced to the point Mr. Always Lear

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:45 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 06:52:48PM -0700, Warren Young wrote: >> >> I am explaining to them why this is not a productive view. > > It's not relevant in _any_ sense. CentOS is nothing more than (at it's > core) a rebuild of RHEL. This type

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, January 7, 2015 09:48, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 08:45:29PM -0600, John R. Dennison wrote: >> It's not relevant in _any_ sense. CentOS is nothing more than (at >> it's core) a rebuild of RHEL. This type of nonsense should be >> directed to Red Hat in a Red Hat ve

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-08 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Always Learning wrote: > On Tue, 2015-01-06 at 20:19 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> Is there any centralized approach to converting something >> that worked on CentOS6 to run on CentOS7? > > Brilliant task to assign to Warren Young. You’re awfully free with the dis

[CentOS] Question about Neighbour Table Overflow.

2015-01-08 Thread zhen wang
Hi, all When use Centos 6.5,kernel version 2.6.431, I have continuous messages of "Neighbour table overflow" in messages. I have modified the gc_thresh1(512) , gc_thresh2 (2048) gc_thresh3 (4096) in /proc/sys/net.. path, But the messages occurs occasionally. some forum saied: They are probably r

Re: [CentOS] reload /sbin/init

2015-01-08 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/08/2015 03:22 AM, Markus Falb wrote: Hi, There was an update of glibc on CentOS 6 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-January/020863.html and now: # needs-restarting 1 : /sbin/init How do i tell /sbin/init to use the updated files from glibc without a reboot? You can'

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 119, Issue 2

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[CentOS] reload /sbin/init

2015-01-08 Thread Markus Falb
Hi, There was an update of glibc on CentOS 6 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-January/020863.html and now: # needs-restarting 1 : /sbin/init How do i tell /sbin/init to use the updated files from glibc without a reboot? -- Kind Regards, Markus Falb ___