Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-19 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On Fri Oct 19 00:52:12 UTC 2018 Japheth Cleaver wrote: > This brings to mind a video I was pointed to not long ago of Brendan > Conoboy's talk at a Dojo recently: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQsUdLPJW20 Hey, that's me! Hi. By the way, Jim Perrin did an updated version of this talk

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
> Am 20.10.2018 um 00:11 schrieb Paul Heinlein : > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, mark wrote: > >> Yeah. I have trouble finding the actual startup configs - >> /etc/systemd/system? /var/lib? whereeverthehell they are, do a locate as >> opposed to /etc/init.d to find the damn name (nfs? nfsd?

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, mark wrote: Yeah. I have trouble finding the actual startup configs - /etc/systemd/system? /var/lib? whereeverthehell they are, do a locate as opposed to /etc/init.d to find the damn name (nfs? nfsd? idmapd? nfs-idmapd? rpc-idmapd?) systemctl status <> E.g., [~]$

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-19 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:15 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Yeah, I was kind of hedging my comment that maybe something for 1.3 > would be in the earlier version, but yes, all the TLS 1.3 work was > focused on openSSL 1.1.1. I was personally focused on EDDSA support. > > So a number of items

Re: [CentOS] No searchable archives for this mailing list?

2018-10-19 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 19, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > I can't seem to find a way to search the archives of this list Here’s one: https://www.mail-archive.com/centos@centos.org/ Alternately, use the “site:” feature of your search engine to restrict it to the web archives of this list:

Re: [CentOS] systemd automount of cifs share hangs

2018-10-19 Thread Elliott Balsley
> > But if I start the automount unit and ls the mount point, the shell hangs > and eventually, a long time later (I haven't timed it, maybe an hour), I > eventually get a prompt again. Control-C won't interrupt it. I can still > ssh in and get another session so it's just the process that's

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 10/18/18 11:06 PM, Barry Brimer wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 10/18/18 4:14 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 10/18/2018 12:36 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote: The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use

[CentOS] No searchable archives for this mailing list?

2018-10-19 Thread Kay Schenk
Hello all-- I can't seem to find a way to search the archives of this list right now though I DO remember doing that in the past. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Kay ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Can't access Samba shares from Nautilus

2018-10-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-10-19, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 19/10/2018 à 10:30, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit : >> Any idea what's missing here or why this doesn't work as expected ? > > OK, I've investigated this a little further, and it looks like I have > a partial success. > > In Nautilus, I pressed Ctrl+L and then

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread mark
Japheth Cleaver wrote: > On 10/19/2018 5:09 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Simon Matter wrote: > The /sbin/service command is just a shell script. I'd suggest a patch to > send stderr/out to logger as well if I thought it would be accepted. (And >

[CentOS] systemd automount of cifs share hangs

2018-10-19 Thread Kenneth Porter
Running latest CentOS 7.5. Since I found out about automount unit files I've had mixed results using them to mount shares from my NAS. Lately they seem to hang if I touch the mount point, but I can start the mount unit without problems. I had it working months ago, so I'm thinking something

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/19/2018 5:09 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Simon Matter wrote: That's really an important point, because those who started using Linux with Linux/systemd will be bound to Linux/systemd with their knowledge, switching to a *BSD or other Unix will be

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/18/2018 7:33 PM, Young, Gregory wrote: *** This response is my personal opinion and may not reflect that of my employer. *** *snip* If CentOS 8 were to switch back from systemd, I think you would be able to see the explosions from Alpha Centauri as all the developers out there lost

Re: [CentOS] Check version from installer disc

2018-10-19 Thread Elliott Balsley
> > From the UI of the installer, Oh, this is great! Thank you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > I’d rather spend time advocating for and taking advantage of systemd’s > features than complaining about its weaknesses. > > (Automatic service restarts saved me a lot of work just a few weeks ago!) Today’s software project is going to take

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Simon Matter wrote: > > - the upgrade path from EL6 to EL7 is completely broken. Under what conditions would you actually use it? As we can see from the repeated attempts to get a reliable in-place upgrade process working, the community doesn’t seem to have much

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Simon Matter wrote: > That's really an important point, because those who started using Linux > with Linux/systemd will be bound to Linux/systemd with their knowledge, > switching to a *BSD or other Unix will be difficult. For me, I don't like > to be

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Simon Matter
> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On 10/17/18 7:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >>> Benno Rice is right: Lennart Poettering gets stuff done. > > Because he's funded. And I strongly suspect that a lot of that funding > comes from M$'s interest in Upstream. > >> >> With all due respect, many people just

Re: [CentOS] Check version from installer disc

2018-10-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/18/2018 03:18 PM, Elliott Balsley wrote: >> From a end state perspective, it does not matter . . yum update after >> the install (of either) ends at exactly the same place. > > > I will not be running any updates, because I need to keep a specific old > version for software compatibility.

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/18/2018 10:09 PM, Barry Brimer wrote: >>> No, there is no automated way to move from CentOS-6 to CentOS-7 .. and >>> we have no idea what will be in CentOS-8 until Red Hat releases RHEL-8. >>> We have no idea what will be in CentOS-6.11 until Red Hat releases >>> RHEL-6.11 .. and we have no

Re: [CentOS] Can't access Samba shares from Nautilus

2018-10-19 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 19/10/2018 à 10:30, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit : > Any idea what's missing here or why this doesn't work as expected ? OK, I've investigated this a little further, and it looks like I have a partial success. In Nautilus, I pressed Ctrl+L and then typed in the Samba server URL: smb://amandine

[CentOS] Can't access Samba shares from Nautilus

2018-10-19 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Hi, I'm currently experimenting with Samba on a few sandbox machines. On the server side, I have setup CentOS 7 with a basic Samba setup and two shares, one public, the other password-protected. I have two Windows 7 boxes in my network, and I can access the shares perfectly, log in to the

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Friday 19 October 2018 00:41:12 Warren Young wrote: > > S…systemd is a Microsoft conspiracy against Linux? > I love this Now SystemD finally makes sense ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org