On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:49 -0500, R P Herrold wrote:
>> Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not
>> needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic
>
> what venom? what bile?
>
> For the r
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Christopher Chan wrote:
> Oh, things have improved have they? Last I tried, you could not get d-i
Please take this elsewhere -- it has nothing to do with centos
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote:
> I just can't embrace installing an OS whose security updates have
> ...
Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not
needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic
-- Russ herrold
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> I don't care in general, but dislike hypocrisy. If you are going to
> claim to be open source, it should work to rebuild.
les ... go rent a forum of your own -- this has no centos
aspect any more
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Gary Greene wrote:
>> Trust me ... the Linux Foundation thinks it is OK, so we are SOL.
> I'd rather get the opinion of the FSF (those whom wrote the
> license) instead of LF, as they don't matter as much,
> really.
Feel free to approach whoever you wish on your own accoun
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 10/21/2011 12:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>> They have created an optional channel in several of those
>>> groupings that is only accessible via RHN and they do not
>>> put those RPMS on an
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Johnny Tan wrote:
> Like recent Ubuntus, C6 uses upstart in place of traditional Sys V init.
>
> Likely, you will want this in /etc/init/ -- note!, not the same as
> /etc/init.d/
I don't know WHAT you are looking at, if anything, but it is
not a CentOS 6 install; 'upstart' i
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
> ok, not my best bug report.
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=5136
>
> but I guess it will serve as a placeholder for clarifications.
you know, "if there is not a report, there is not a bug" ;)
I've addressed the documentation issue already facing
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
> What state should it be in? should that file be referenced as
>
> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/cr/x86_64/RPMS/centos-release-cr.el5.centos.1.x86_64.rpm
> ?
>
> or should there be a new
>
> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.7/cr/x86_64/RPMS/centos-r
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 09/21/11 8:42 PM, Always Learning wrote:
> 5.7 has been released, obsoleting the 5.6/cr/
John or Always
I am in a low bandwidth environment, and so cannot do this
myself
Plesae file a bug at: http://bugs.centos.org/ so that the
release process c
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote:
> I am unaware of ever making those comments !
Check your file copy of your email to me of 25 Aug. I won't
engage in a battle of semantics with an anonymous troll
To all:
As a matter of logistics, we are putting some new permissions
in place to per
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote:
> Can't see any new web site on the latter URL. I'm not a Flash user by
> choice.
> Perhaps the Centos web site should be simple, practical, helpful in
> preference to emulating the very latest presentation gimmicks ? A larger
> font size will be useful
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote:
>> However, you can file a bug report against the website.
>
> What is the point in 'complaining' by filing a BUG report when it is
> conspicuously evident the existing web person(s) can not cope because
> they have insufficient time or have died or have
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Helmut Drodofsky wrote:
> as described by CISCO in
> http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_7-2/ipv6_autoconfig.html
>
> a router has to send ICMPv6 messages of type RS to the all-router multicast
> group: ff02::1 and ff02::2 for stateless autoconfigura
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:02 PM, R - elists wrote:
>> - rh
> Russ why don't you just discipline everyone? Cause no-one can stick to
> CentOS-only conversations in your righteous eyes.
Rudi,
I know it is confusing to you , as Robert Heller and Russ
Herr
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, John Doe wrote:
> I am in the process of trying (and convincing my colleagues) to learn/setup
>
> selinux as we switch to 6.0...
> Quick question: do I really "need" to install the setools/setroubleshoot
> packages or can I live without them? They want to install 80 packages
>
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Digimer wrote:
> That was hardly called for. If you find a post off topic or
> uninteresting, just delete it. Either no one will reply or, if there is
> interest in the question, others will and the question will be decided
> to have value.
wrong
Seemingly you feel it is prop
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> Does anyone know what version of XEN works fine with CentOS 6?
>
> I installed XEN on a CentOS 6 server, as per these instructions:
> http://www.crc.id.au/xen-on-rhel6-scientific-linux-6-centos-6-howto/
and this issue about a third party writeup is not ask
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Russ, my fault - I'd crossposted to here and the general RH list. Dunno if
> I should consider filing this as a bug or not with upstream.
yes but, no ... your content was not wild-ass OT political
- R
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Always Learning wrote:
> Brilliant job creation scheme to increase State and Federal tax yields.
'Always'
-- if you are going to post cr*p, at least have the courtesy
to not CROSS post to Red Hat lists and here
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:09 PM, wrote:
>> Looked over there. Any idea why they "rebranded"?
>
> Total WAG: to offer deb file downloads?!
later by Tom H, not willing to accept that his remarks were
out of scope:
> It was a WAG! :)
no -- it was off topic n
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> And if anything drove posters away from here it was certain people
> telling them their input wasn't wanted.
you are right, Lesthere is no purpose to participating
further here
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Surely it is easy enough to avoid reading an article
> labelled OT?
sure -- one person SHOULD be able to burden tens of thousands
to clean up after them repeatedly
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>> I think the centos-offtopic list should also be centos
>> related, but not so strict postings as the current list is.
yeah -- just like there is presently any self control being
shown by certain serial offenders here. We could set it up,
but the pe
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
> how do you supply the ks.cfg file when you're PXE booting
> and have no CD or floppy?
ummm ... with DHCP, handing out the correct boot vmlinuz image
under PXE for the MAC address in question, and kernel command
line arguments, one of which is the loc
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Always Learning wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 11:03 -0700, Todd wrote:
>
>> indeed no, but I want to work on some pattern matching, analysis for a
>> piece of software I have wanted to write for years..
>
> Lots of success and good luck. Do let us know how it goes.
umm -- hig
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:54 AM -0300 Rogelio
> wrote:
>
>> The free DHCP solution, ISC, seems to be having scaling issues (i.e.
>> handling only about 200 DHCPDISCOVER and 20 DHCPRENEW requests)
I've only been watching this thread with half att
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Ned Slider wrote:
> But as outlined in that thread it is not always easy (or indeed
> possible) to establish which upstream source a given CentOS modified
> package is built from. A more reliable method would be to check the
> changelog.
A most reliable mechanism would be to e
I see in my overnight email spool:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726872
I am amused because this kind of request comes up time and
time again with respect the package management system
It is technically _possible_ to attain this kind of rollbacks,
in some tightly controlled e
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Tomasz Ostrowski wrote:
> I've managed to install CentOS 6 on a 192MB virtual machine using LiveCD
> install-to-disk graphical method.
I think you are over-thnking this. Anaconda is overkill if
all you want to do is blow images onto arbitrary hardware
So long as you are
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Frank Cox wrote:
> Gimp on Centos 5 has somehow lost its ability to load a pdf
> file on three (i386) different computers. I'm pretty sure
> that this used to work.
just a stab in the dark here -- upstream issued an update to
poppler / evince that obsoleted xpdf (gratuiti
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Mike Burger wrote:
> If IBM can make this happen for their OS, and Red Hat certainly supports
> such a process in the Fedora line of releases (including the ability to
> list additional repositories for remote installation as part of the
> process), they could certainly make i
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> My questions for any filesystem experts are:
>
> Is there a way to adjust the existing md partitions to get the right
> alignment for 4k sectors without having to do a file-oriented copy to
> new partitions? A resize + a dd copy to shift the position mig
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 7/25/2011 11:37 AM, Patrick Lists wrote:
>>
> Installing non RPM software on an RPM Distro like CentOS is frowned
> upon. That is the worst way to do it.
> else has already done it. That is, building an RPM is always more work
> than doing a
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Marc Deop wrote:
> It's more than twice as fast than the previous sh script.
In part this is /bin/sh v /bin/bash and using 'bashisms'
matter, but yes, I did not seek to optimize a teaching
throwaway
> 1- m5sum the file we need
... actually the NAME of the file, to make i
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Lamar Owen wrote:
> The specific example of zoneminder is particularly
> insidious. On our zoneminder systems, even point updates to
> certain libraries has created problems. A good, modern,
> package of zoneminder in a repo somewhere would save a lot
> of grief in that
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Craig White wrote:
> you made a vacuous argument.
Hunh. You are ** still ** trolling here [arguing against
package management] and on this thread [C 6 matters], Craig?
I thot back on June 13 you said here:
> easier just to give up - I moved my new servers to ubuntu -
> n
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Keith Roberts wrote:
>> By using a hash, we remove those constraints, and also gain
>> the virtuous effect for free of self-organizing a relatively
>> level dispersion of files to the destination directories
>
> Not followed the whole thread, but a SQL database index of
> the
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, Always Learning wrote:
> If the pictures are named sequentially, why not store then at a 100 per
> directory structure something like this
>
> /pix/0/00/pix1.jpg
>
> /pix/0/26/pix02614.jpg
>
> /pix/6/72/pix67255.jpg
Go read Knuth
One does not do that because then one is
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011, yonatan pingle wrote:
> the coder is not tech savvy as one might expect, so it's
> really hard for me to explain the issue of having lots of
> files in one folder to the site owner or to the coder.
I do not expect coders to remain 'not tech savvy'
If the coder is not willi
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Thomas Dukes wrote:
> When I say non-rpm, I mean source packages I compiled such as zoneminder.
>> CentOS ships no non-RPM packaged packages -- look to whoever
>> put those packages on your box without using the packaging
>> system if you feel the need to blame someone
[clea
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Thomas Dukes wrote:
> I use to be able to upgrade by doing a 'yum update'. That doesn't work
> either.
A low skill user was never able to go from 2.1 to 3, nor 3 to
4, nor 4 to 5, and an a minimally skilled will not be able
to go from 5 to 6. This is the policy of the upst
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> around. Russ may be of the opinion that everyone should memorize
> bazillion-page books of details about each quirky service or hire
dunno that those are my words at all
The issue was DNS zone files
One takes a template, and in the residential user ca
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Emmett Culley wrote:
> No, it isn't. At least it isn't trivial for those of us
> that only occasionally need to modify their DNS server(s).
> I had a few gripes about system-config-bind, but on the
> whole it did make it easy for me to manage our DNS servers
> without hav
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6.
and this has WHAT to do with low ram installs?
PLEASE stop this noise, just to hear yourself talk, Ljubomir
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> Please post your replies bellow the original text you are replying to
> for easier read.
>
> Has anybody looked is SL dev team created those?
> Also, has anybody tried to rip out those files from C5 and just repack it?
Ljubomir ... PLEASE stop say
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
> The 6.0 folder is not readable for external users until the bitflip
> occurs.
The implicit statement being that a mirror operator could
_jump the gun_ on the official release, and 'have 'the release
early. Indeed, in the past some (former) mirror opera
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011, Hüvely Balázs wrote:
> I've a toshiba satellite notebook, and I tried to install centos 5.6.
> The installer starts, but when it turns to graphical mode, the backlight
> goes off. I see the windows, buttons, but it's very dark, maybe the
> backlight switching off..
do a text
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
> does someone have a script for maintaining a repo with lftp they'd like
> to share? what I saw on the wiki wasn't very helpful.
[root@xps400 ~]# grep kernel *conf
lftp-centos-4-updates.conf:
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/4/updates/i386 \
lft
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has, or does, anyone use dm-cache - specifically for caching SAN based
> storage locally?
hmmm
>From another list
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:38:29 +0200
From: Rudi Ahlers
To: xen-users
Subject: xen-u] anyone using dm-cache?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> Nothing that Red Hat did has increased the burden on CentOS.
so says the person who has not done it
- the rpm tool changed, adding a non-backward compatible
compression scheme. as I blogged about months ago; this has
'flow through' effects as to boo
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On 6/14/2011 12:19 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
PLEASE ... let this thread die or take it to a bar somewhere
... it has NOTHING do do with the subject line
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Mike Williams wrote:
> Do you edit rewrite rules for every access that would
> otherwise be a 404 and change it to a 301? If so, what do
> you redirect them to, and why? Sounds like a lot of work.
This was covered by me in a blog post some time ago, as to my
approach:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Alexander Farber wrote:
> does anybody know of a good source for a apr-util-pgsql rpm package
> for CentOS 5.6 / 64 bit and even more I'm curious why isn't it included
> but the apr-util-mysql is included...
I seem to have one built on a CentOS 5 platform, although I do
not
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Steven Crothers wrote:
> You could release your work to something like Github, but
> I'm sure the CentOS team doesn't want that...
ehh? The CentOS team has been quite clear that its product
carries the license of the underlying packages, and then GPL
for released CentOS s
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, n...@nux.ro wrote:
> I'd like to see on the LiveCD the following:
> 1. latest dd_rescue
> 2. latest gparted
> 3. ntfs-3g
> 4. screen
> 5. mc
CentOS 6 Live CD would composed of packges from the
distribution's packages --- 'latest' is not a criteria there;
as to something wit
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Got back and look at the changelogs of the PostgreSQL packages.
>
> Give me a hint about what to look for.
$ rpm -q --changelog postgresql-libs | grep -i owen
Lamar was, during the time of RHL, postgresql's maintainer as
to RPM based packaging, and as
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> [Upstream] didn't restrict access, it was only rebranded as
> another project
oh horse puckety
The binaries (base and updates) formerly freely available in
RHL disappeared behind a license paywall; a new brand that was
'enforceable' emerged [RHL wa
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, James B. Byrne wrote:
> tell me how I can capture and log the initial response to the ftp
> connection?
man expect
It is usually straightforward to capture a transcript of a
session, and then abstract away the needed prompts and
responses (The ORA 'Exploring Expect' by Don
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Mag Gam wrote:
> I would like to confirm Matt's claim. I too experienced larger
> latencies with Centos 5.x compared to 4.x. My application is very
> network sensitive and its easy to prove using lat_tcp.
> Russ,
> I am curious about identifying the problem. What tools do you
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> This seems to me to be an unnecessarily agressive response
> to what appeared to me a rational question from Les Mikesell.
> But I don't think the fact that a service is free
> entitles its proponents to be rude to those using it.
You must be new to t
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Community effort or not, it did once seem like you had goals
> for timeliness as well. Are you happy with the current
> situation? If more community participation is off the
> table, what else could help?
Johnny points out that we get crickets at he
On Sun, 22 May 2011, Steven Crothers wrote:
> I think you're missing the point, if you read between the lines, the
> complaint I see is that CentOS (Community Enterprise Operating System)
> is not community based whatsoever.
I don't mind-read as to what a third party meant so well as
you, it see
On Sun, 22 May 2011, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> Who said anything about 5.6 breaking the environment? Everyone in the
> very long thread gave the excuse that it was done concurrent with other
> releases.
customary trolling by Gordon Messmer -- passive agressive,
implying an unmet obligation
On Sat, 21 May 2011, Lamar Owen wrote:
> Wait a cotton-picking minute. Why is vsftpd writing to
> /var/log/xferlog in the first place, and not
> /var/log/vsftpd.log?
early in the thread, it was clear from a reply's content that
a locally installed 'ftpd' and not the CentOS vsftpd was
being u
On Fri, 20 May 2011, Matt Garman wrote:
> We have several latency-sensitive "pipeline"-style programs that have
> a measurable performance degredation when run on CentOS 5.x versus
> CentOS 4.x.
>
> By "pipeline" program, I mean one that has multiple threads. The
> mutiple threads work on shared
On Thu, 19 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> started holding my breath when RHEL 6 Beta was released, and my face is
> not blue any more but totally black :-)
Yowzer -- Zombies!!!
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On Thu, 19 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Everyone expected this from Red Hat before the 'EL' versions when
> publishing a free CD of community work was the way QA was done. (And if
> you've forgotten, go dig through some changelogs of that era to see just
> how bad things were and how much we g
(possible duplicate -- the first post had some mal-formed
headers that the MailMan should have rejected)
On Thu, 19 May 2011, Markus Falb wrote:
> Oh Lord! If everyone would avoid 'dot.zero' products then no
> bugs would be discovered and no 'dot.one' product would be
> released. You basically
On Thu, 19 May 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>> herrold earlier:
>> and look at all the anaconda related, and other fixes, that
>> should have been in a dot zero release ... gee
> Which means, that RHEL6.0 should have just now come out today; the
> release called 6.0 was a teaser and a beta of t
On Thu, 19 May 2011, carlopmart wrote:
> Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_6_1_Released
and look at all the anaconda related, and other fixes, that
should have been in a dot zero release ... gee
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On Tue, 17 May 2011, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
> The main "fear" the developers have is that somebody could
> steal their work and come up with another RHEL clone easily
> if they release their build system & scripts.
> I think this is obvious by now.
'obvious' to you or not, such is not the case
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:41 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 May 2011, Akemi Yagi wrote:
>>
>>> But, yes, there are a few missing srpms even as of now ...
>>
>> bug number please
>
> Jeff_S knows. He filed a
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> But, yes, there are a few missing srpms even as of now ...
bug number please
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quick answer: even paranoids have enemies
On Sun, 8 May 2011, Jason wrote:
> So I turned on Apache ReWrite and I created a file and I put in rules like:
> (just a small subset)
>
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/php(.*) [NC,OR]
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/phpmy(.*) [NC,OR]
.snip
> 2. I
On Sat, 7 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> in-place upgrade of C5 to C6 will be most likely impossible. To many
> changes of how thing work.
In local testing built from the anaconda and related sources
that will become CentOS 6, the offer to upgrade an existing
install is made during a me
On Fri, 6 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
herrold:
>> I'll try to blog about it, but once one knows the 'secret' it
>> is not all that hard to predict -- This unit has three NICs
>> (two onboard of the same type and an addon) which do NOT
>> 'wander around' through reboots
> But can you swap the di
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> I do not have personal experience with CentOS, but I have seen different
> X86-PC MB's on embedded units/routers recognizing LAN and Wireless NIC's
> differently ones from PCI1 to PCI5, others from PCI5 to PCI1, one MB
> even without any order at al
On Mon, 2 May 2011, Amos Shapira wrote:
> Does anyone have instructions on how to go through the
> entire process from downloading source RPM's from RedHat's
> servers through to building the entire distribution?
>
> I've searched through the web and CentOS' own web sites and couldn't find
> suc
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> I just noticed that the mod_ssl package was missing on a 5.x machine
> that I thought was approximately like several other that have it - and
> don't remember doing anything different. Is there some yum group that
> would install httpd without including
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
> Thanks for pointing out that it really is abnormal because
> it takes about 2 hours for virt-install to create a 190G
> disk for me.
As you are having issues with the install, I might suggest
creating a more modest sized disk image, at least dur
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, Jussi Hirvi wrote:
> RJ's website says he is (was?) in the process of rewriting virt-p2v.
>
>> I have a copy in my archive, but how about contacting Richard
>> Jones, and asking him for an update or replacement?
I'll shuttle it out into public bandwidth and advice you
privat
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011, Jussi Hirvi wrote:
> Does anyone have the .iso image of virt-p2v? It is not available anymore
> through that link. The source is available, but building it requires a
> *lot* of packages, some of which seem to be hard to find.
I have a copy in my archive, but how about contac
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Dag Wieers wrote:
> I also don't see what the size of my (past) contributions to CentOS has to
> do with this whole discussion. I would much rather discuss why the QA
> process needs to be closed, why you think opening up the process will not
> help fix issues faster (while ob
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Brian Mathis wrote:
> packages, etc... but how? From the tone of the messages it seems like
> it was either via IRC or personal email, which effectively counts for
> zero in this context as we are talking about things that take place in
> public. Those things need to go into
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 4/12/2011 12:51 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
>>
>> off the top of my head, here is the meta-code
> Would you really repeat those steps by hand if someone gave
> you a new server to add to what you use? Maybe things are
> worse th
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> But Johnny's postings seem pretty insistent on never releasing the
> actual scripts in a form that can be used elsewhere or by anyone outside
> the project, so maybe a more productive approach would be some way of
oh horse puckey, troll -- it is just 'sh
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ian Murray wrote:
> hair is best cut. My bakery has refused to sell me sliced bread because it was
> too hot to slice... however, they kindly explained when I should come back if
> I
> wished such that the bread would suitably be ready. No drama.
and so we should tell people:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> rebuilding RHEL src rpms under RHEL, it should be made
> public and either fixed or acknowleged as the intended
> outcome.
Off topic here as to what RHEL and its vendor should or should
not do, Les.
And 'self-hosting' has NEVER been a goal of the upst
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> day (and I mean every complainant every day) and saying SL is better,
> raising blood pressure to devs (which is why they are loosing their
> temper), but keeps bashers wanting CentOS over the SL? I do not get it
Actually I just finished an email t
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Tom H wrote:
> This is the kind of answer that CentOS as a project
> shouldn't allow (KB's recent use-something-else email is
> another example) because it makes the developers look like
> rank amateurs.
It is _so_ easy to tell others what they should or should not
do. Ea
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Digimer wrote:
> As an aside, does the CentOS build environment (understanding that it
> needs to be built, too), able to tweet something like "last build; X
> packages OK, Y packages failed"?
This was done on a trailling basis for a couple side arch's
builders by me and anot
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> OK guys. Why don't you fork the CentOS project and build your own???
>
> Why don't ANYBODY fork CentOS project? What are you/they waiting for?
> Whining is easy, build something on your own.
Too strongly stated. I am aware of at least two private
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> It is just hard for an outsider to reconcile the statements about the
> build process not needing any changes or more resources with the lack of
> a target time. Or that binary compatibility is the critical thing with
> the distribution becoming incompat
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, cornel panceac wrote:
> 2011/3/23 R P Herrold
>
>> This comes and goes, and really there is no substitute for actually
>> 'doing' rather than
>> talking in the cloister
> as i see it, the problem is while the users expectation has g
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Building the kernel shouldn't be an issue - but look at the
> SL notes on the srpms that don't build with the listed
> dependencies as shipped - and they aren't being picky about
> the library linkages matching the RH binaries like CentOS
> is.
> If
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Drew wrote:
> Most likely because of relative cost and/or perceived value of SLES vs RHEL?
>
> Novell is essentially offering to help you while you switch existing
> kit over to SLES. If you're already paying for a RHEL subscription,
> Novell's offer may have a lower cost or o
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Александр Кириллов wrote:
>> TANSTAAFL
> ... long overdue "free lunch"
I get it -- you dont (or choose not to) understand the written
word
-- Russ herrold
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Александр Кириллов wrote:
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/smallbusiness/columnist/abrams/2011-03-18-how-to-lose-a-client_N.htm
CentOS has no clients to whom a contractual duty of support is
owed. If SLAs, sales engineers, 800 numbers, and such are
wanted or needed, PLEASE
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> There are significant components of the upstream 5.6 release which are
> stuck behind the CentOS 5.6 release process, but are now incorporated
> in EPEL 5 components.
Sad that -- that the dependent partial Red Hat adjunct project
is not compatible
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