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> >
> >> The firmware you mention, is that used with dkms or something like that?
> >
> >I
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>> Ok, so what would you guys su
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>Of Rob Kampen
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>
>I have installed and used Cen
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> > > Behalf
> > > >Of William L. Maltby
> > > >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM
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> &g
illiam L. Maltby
> > >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM
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> > >
> > >> >Probably not the best distro for Laptops,
> > >> >but many people on this li
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote:
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> &g
gt; >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM
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> >
> >> >Probably not the best distro for Laptops,
> >> >but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops.
> >
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> >
> >The *Intel* WiFi-NIC (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini
> >PCI Adapter) on my IBM T
Sorin Srbu wrote:
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Probably not the best
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>
>> Ok, so what wou
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote:
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> Behalf
> >Of William L. Maltby
> >
> >
> >Not likely on this list. More likely, a "preponderance", maybe even a
> >"majority", but I wouldn
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>> >Probably n
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> >
> >Probably not the best distro for Laptops,
> >but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops.
>
> So what's consid
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 10:56 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote:
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> >Of Lanny Marcus
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> &g
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>Of Lanny Marcus
>Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM
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>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
>Probably not the best distr
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 21:06 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, JohnS wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
> >> I wonder if yum-updatesd might cache repo data separate from yum
> >> cache, in which case some older incompatible cached data from
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, JohnS wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
>> I wonder if yum-updatesd might cache repo data separate from yum
>> cache, in which case some older incompatible cached data from the
>> previous version may still be around causing yum-update
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
> On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt
> wrote:
>
> > Lanny Marcus wrote:
> >> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
> >> cron job. update yum and then update.
> >
> > a) That manual was written at the t
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 13:20 +0200, Equinox86 wrote:
> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much
> time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time
> to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and
> desktop friendly, similar to
przemol...@poczta.fm wrote:
> Use debian stable (currently 'lenny'). The philosophy behind stable
> releases of debian is release updates for packages only if you have
> security bugs. That way when you run 'apt-get update && apt-get
> upgrade' you download and install only those already _installe
pfff only for office, if you wound a multimedia sistem with the reason
mentioned in the mail before this reply centos is not for desktop, i
preferred fedora 10, fedora have only 1 lack, have the software too much
updated for my taste, but this is minor problem
2009/5/20 Ralph Angenendt
>
> Equin
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:11:35PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecur
on 5-20-2009 6:14 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86
> wrote:
>> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
>> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
>> recompile dependences i adv
On 05/20/2009 03:55 PM, John Doe wrote:
> While I am very happy with CentOS on my servers and my office workstation, I
> am using Ubuntu on my home laptop...
> The main point being: with Ubuntu, everything (wireless, graphic card,
> etc...) just worked straight away.
> All the other distros I tri
While I am very happy with CentOS on my servers and my office workstation, I am
using Ubuntu on my home laptop...
The main point being: with Ubuntu, everything (wireless, graphic card, etc...)
just worked straight away.
All the other distros I tried failed on one or more aspects.
And debian pack
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Equinox86 wrote:
yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly,
similar to swiss knife.
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Lanny Marcus wrote:
> > The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
> > cron job. update yum and then update.
>
> a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken
> then. b) It is broken again :/ c) "yu
Frank Thommen wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other
> >> distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE.
> >> Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-).
> >
> > That is utter bullshit. The neat thing
At Wed, 20 May 2009 08:14:05 -0500 CentOS mailing list
wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 wrote:
> > yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
> > and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
> > recompile depe
On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt
wrote:
> Lanny Marcus wrote:
>> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
>> cron job. update yum and then update.
>
> a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was
> broken
> then. b) It is broken again
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Equinox86 wrote:
>> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
>> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
>> recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desk
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Lanny Marcus wrote:
>> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
>> cron job. update yum and then update.
>
> a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken
> then. b) It is broken again :/
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 wrote:
> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
> recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly,
> similar to s
> [...]
>> Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other
>> distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE.
>> Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-).
>
> That is utter bullshit. The neat thing about CentOS as a Desktop is that
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Equinox86 wrote:
>> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
>> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
>> recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly,
>> similar to swiss
Equinox86 wrote:
> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
> recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly,
> similar to swiss knife.
I still call this bul
yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time
and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to
recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly,
similar to swiss knife.
but if you have a server, probably best choice
John Kennedy wrote:
> As much as I like CentOS, I tend to agree with the other posts. I don't think
> it is the right distro for non techies.
Why?
> I set up my in-laws with Linux Mint (running KDE, of course) and they could
> even handle installing the codecs and other non OSS stuff. Mint is a
Frank Thommen wrote:
> Hi Anne,
>
> > [...] he feels very insecure.
> >
> > It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> > keep it securely patched. [...]
> >
> > I'd be glad of any advice.
>
> Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other
>
Lanny Marcus wrote:
> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a
> cron job. update yum and then update.
a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken
then. b) It is broken again :/ c) "yum update yum" and then "yum update"
the rest broke things fo
Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> > keep it securely patched. I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
> > security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of ap
John Kennedy пишет:
> On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote:
>> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
>> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
>> basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels
>
>-Original Message-
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Behalf
>Of John Kennedy
>Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:34 AM
>To: centos@centos.org
>Cc: Anne Wilson
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
>As much
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
>Of Lanny Marcus
>Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:28 AM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
>Possibly the best way
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>Of Frank Cox
>Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:22 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Cc: Anne Wilson
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
>> It se
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>Of Robert Heller
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>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?
>
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels
> very insecure.
>
> It se
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, JohnS wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
>>
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> >> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet,
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
>> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
>> basically
>> - but his wife dealt with all
Hi Anne,
> [...] he feels very insecure.
>
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> keep it securely patched. [...]
>
> I'd be glad of any advice.
Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other
distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be
on 5-19-2009 8:11 AM Anne Wilson spake the following:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
>
>
Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very
> insecure.
>
> It seems to me that CentOS would be
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
>
On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100
Anne Wilson wrote:
> It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to
> keep it securely patched. I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
> security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
> perhaps auto
At Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 CentOS mailing list
wrote:
>
>
>
> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking,
> basically
> - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels
I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently-
widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically
- but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.
It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the
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