Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Robert Heller
t;Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:42 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > > > >> The firmware you mention, is that used with dkms or something like that? > > > >I&#

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of JohnS >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:35 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >> Ok, so what would you guys su

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Robert Heller >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:42 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Rob Kampen >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:15 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >I have installed and used Cen

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread JohnS
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > > > Behalf > > > >Of William L. Maltby > > > >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM > > > >To: CentOS mailing list > > > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > &g

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
illiam L. Maltby > > >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM > > >To: CentOS mailing list > > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > > > > > >> >Probably not the best distro for Laptops, > > >> >but many people on this li

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread JohnS
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf > >Of William L. Maltby > >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > &g

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
gt; >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > > > >> >Probably not the best distro for Laptops, > >> >but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops. > >

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
t;Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:52 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > > > >The *Intel* WiFi-NIC (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini > >PCI Adapter) on my IBM T

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Rob Kampen
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of William L. Maltby >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:27 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > > >> Ok, so what wou

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf > >Of William L. Maltby > > > > > >Not likely on this list. More likely, a "preponderance", maybe even a > >"majority", but I wouldn

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Robert Heller >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:52 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security u

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of William L. Maltby >Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >> >Probably n

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
ent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > > > >Probably not the best distro for Laptops, > >but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops. > > So what's consid

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 10:56 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf > >Of Lanny Marcus > >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM > >To: CentOS mailing list > &g

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Lanny Marcus >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >Probably not the best distr

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 21:06 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, JohnS wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: > >> I wonder if yum-updatesd might cache repo data separate from yum > >> cache, in which case some older incompatible cached data from

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread Ross Walker
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, JohnS wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: >> I wonder if yum-updatesd might cache repo data separate from yum >> cache, in which case some older incompatible cached data from the >> previous version may still be around causing yum-update

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread JohnS
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: > On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt > wrote: > > > Lanny Marcus wrote: > >> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a > >> cron job. update yum and then update. > > > > a) That manual was written at the t

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread JohnS
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 13:20 +0200, Equinox86 wrote: > yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much > time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time > to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and > desktop friendly, similar to

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: > Use debian stable (currently 'lenny'). The philosophy behind stable > releases of debian is release updates for packages only if you have > security bugs. That way when you run 'apt-get update && apt-get > upgrade' you download and install only those already _installe

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Equinox86
pfff only for office, if you wound a multimedia sistem with the reason mentioned in the mail before this reply centos is not for desktop, i preferred fedora 10, fedora have only 1 lack, have the software too much updated for my taste, but this is minor problem 2009/5/20 Ralph Angenendt > > Equin

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread przemolicc
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:11:35PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, > basically > - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecur

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-20-2009 6:14 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 > wrote: >> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time >> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to >> recompile dependences i adv

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/20/2009 03:55 PM, John Doe wrote: > While I am very happy with CentOS on my servers and my office workstation, I > am using Ubuntu on my home laptop... > The main point being: with Ubuntu, everything (wireless, graphic card, > etc...) just worked straight away. > All the other distros I tri

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread John Doe
While I am very happy with CentOS on my servers and my office workstation, I am using Ubuntu on my home laptop... The main point being: with Ubuntu, everything (wireless, graphic card, etc...) just worked straight away. All the other distros I tried failed on one or more aspects. And debian pack

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Rob Kampen
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Equinox86 wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, similar to swiss knife.

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Lanny Marcus wrote: > > The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a > > cron job. update yum and then update. > > a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken > then. b) It is broken again :/ c) "yu

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frank Thommen wrote: > > [...] > >> Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other > >> distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE. > >> Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-). > > > > That is utter bullshit. The neat thing

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 20 May 2009 08:14:05 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 wrote: > > yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time > > and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to > > recompile depe

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ross Walker
On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Lanny Marcus wrote: >> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a >> cron job. update yum and then update. > > a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was > broken > then. b) It is broken again

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Equinox86 wrote: >> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time >> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to >> recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desk

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Lanny Marcus wrote: >> The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a >> cron job. update yum and then update. > > a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken > then. b) It is broken again :/

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 wrote: > yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time > and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to > recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, > similar to s

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Frank Thommen
> [...] >> Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other >> distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE. >> Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-). > > That is utter bullshit. The neat thing about CentOS as a Desktop is that

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ned Slider
Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Equinox86 wrote: >> yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time >> and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to >> recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, >> similar to swiss

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Equinox86 wrote: > yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time > and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to > recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, > similar to swiss knife. I still call this bul

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Equinox86
yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, similar to swiss knife. but if you have a server, probably best choice

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
John Kennedy wrote: > As much as I like CentOS, I tend to agree with the other posts. I don't think > it is the right distro for non techies. Why? > I set up my in-laws with Linux Mint (running KDE, of course) and they could > even handle installing the codecs and other non OSS stuff. Mint is a

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frank Thommen wrote: > Hi Anne, > > > [...] he feels very insecure. > > > > It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to > > keep it securely patched. [...] > > > > I'd be glad of any advice. > > Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other >

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Lanny Marcus wrote: > The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a > cron job. update yum and then update. a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken then. b) It is broken again :/ c) "yum update yum" and then "yum update" the rest broke things fo

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frank Cox wrote: > On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 > Anne Wilson wrote: > > It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to > > keep it securely patched. I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install > > security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of ap

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Alexx
John Kennedy пишет: > On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote: >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- >> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, >> basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels >

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of John Kennedy >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:34 AM >To: centos@centos.org >Cc: Anne Wilson >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >As much

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Lanny Marcus >Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:28 AM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >Possibly the best way

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Frank Cox >Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:22 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Cc: Anne Wilson >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? > >> It se

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Robert Heller >Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:20 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Cc: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? >

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread John Kennedy
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote: > I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, > basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels > very insecure. > > It se

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, JohnS wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: >> >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- >>

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread JohnS
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > >> widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet,

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: >> I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- >> widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, >> basically >> - but his wife dealt with all

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Thommen
Hi Anne, > [...] he feels very insecure. > > It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to > keep it securely patched. [...] > > I'd be glad of any advice. Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-19-2009 8:11 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: > I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, > basically > - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. > >

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread nate
Anne Wilson wrote: > I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, > basically > - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very > insecure. > > It seems to me that CentOS would be

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread JohnS
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, > basically > - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. >

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 Anne Wilson wrote: > It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to > keep it securely patched. I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install > security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications > perhaps auto

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > > I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- > widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, > basically > - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels

[CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Anne Wilson
I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the