Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-19 Thread Alan McKay
So going back to Amanda and Bacula ... I seem to recall that Amanda uses standard tools on the back end like gtar and/or dump, is that right? What does Bacula use? Does it use one of the standard tools? Or does it have its own proprietary format that it uses? thanks, -Alan -- “Don't eat

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: So going back to Amanda and Bacula ... I seem to recall that Amanda uses standard tools on the back end like gtar and/or dump, is that right? Amanda needs its own client installation on the target, but uses the local gnutar

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-18 Thread Nataraj
On 12/16/2011 06:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote: From the little I've read it seems to be very similar to BackupPC. I think the only thing they have in common is that they both use rsync as the transfer agent. Well, they

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Nataraj incoming-cen...@rjl.com wrote: Does backupPC have the abilty to easily be configured so that each daily incremental and each weekly full backup are stored on different drives, i.e. to rotate drives based on your backup schedule and not just when a

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-16 Thread Alan McKay
OK, I'm getting ready to finally dig into replacing our backups. Lots of good info in this thread -but so far no mention of rsnapshot Any comment on it ? Our environment is all Linux except for Mac desktops which would like have a different solution for backups. From the little I've read it

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I'm getting ready to finally dig into replacing our backups.  Lots of good info in this thread -but so far no mention of rsnapshot Any comment on it ?   Our environment is all Linux except for Mac desktops which

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-16 Thread Jonathan Nilsson
good info in this thread -but so far no mention of rsnapshot Any comment on it ? we use rsnapshot. i think of it basically as a wrapper around rsync. it isn't a fully featured backup solution just on it's own, but it is a great tool. we have written a bash shell script wrapper around rsnapshot

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-16 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote: From the little I've read it seems to be very similar to BackupPC. I think the only thing they have in common is that they both use rsync as the transfer agent. Well, they are both perl scripts... Backuppc just has

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Devin Reade
--On Thursday, December 08, 2011 01:06:10 PM -0500 Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have any experience with this, which just came to my attention http://www.arkeia.com/en/solutions/open-source-solutions Yes, I've used it (albiet about 8 years back or so), as well as many other

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: Being bit by Arkeia (and previously Amanda and others) Errr, what? Amanda is a little cumbersome to set up, but it doesn't bite. If gnutar works, amanda should work or tell you why. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Devin Reade
--On Friday, December 09, 2011 11:48:49 AM -0600 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Errr, what? Amanda is a little cumbersome to set up, but it doesn't bite. If gnutar works, amanda should work or tell you why. As I said, it's been at least 8 years since I dealt with Amanda. Going by

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: --On Friday, December 09, 2011 11:48:49 AM -0600 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Errr, what?   Amanda is a little cumbersome to set up, but it doesn't bite.  If gnutar works, amanda should work or tell you why. As I

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Devin Reade
--On Friday, December 09, 2011 01:03:18 PM -0600 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be happy if I never see a tape again. Likewise. Skipping forward to the present, I'm doing normal backups in Bacula to virtual volumes on hard disk. As for offsite/archival backups, using the

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: --On Friday, December 09, 2011 01:03:18 PM -0600 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be happy if I never see a tape again. Likewise. Skipping forward to the present, I'm doing normal backups in Bacula to virtual

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Devin Reade
--On Friday, December 09, 2011 02:59:08 PM -0600 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt if it can match the bandwidth efficiency of backuppc with rsync as the transport (not sure - how does the bacula agent deal with growing files, or big files with small changes?). There is a

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-09 Thread Barry Brimer
Anyone have any experience with this, which just came to my attention http://www.arkeia.com/en/solutions/open-source-solutions I have used Arkeia for a few customers .. it works well. Do you have any specific questions about it? Barry ___ CentOS

[CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks, I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up. OSes are a combination of

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Lars Hecking
NetWorker Management Console version 3.5.1.Build.269 based on NetWorker version 7.5.1.Build.269 The pickle we are in right now is that this software is Java based, and stops working at a very specific release of JRE (1.6.26 or something like that). We still have some machines

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up.  OSes are a combination of RHEL and CentOS.  The software we are using is EMC    NetWorker Management

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Craig White
On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up. OSes are a combination of RHEL and CentOS. The

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Philippe Naudin
Le jeu 08 déc 2011 09:43:21 CET, Les Mikesell a écrit: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with a Sun StorageTek SL24 tape unit backing it all up.  OSes are a combination of RHEL and CentOS.  

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Philippe Naudin philippe.nau...@supagro.inra.fr wrote: If you want mostly-online backups with perhaps an occasional tar archive, it will be hard to beat backuppc because of it's storage pooling and ability to run over rsync or smb with no remote agents. For

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
I'm pretty sure I saw a note on the networker list that 7.6 SP3 works with update 27, update 29, and java 7. Well we don't have a support contract - is it a free upgrade? -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
Alan McKay wrote: Hey folks, I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS You missed rsync. snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS You missed rsync. Rsync is another one-off approach where you have to roll your own

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS You missed rsync. Rsync is another one-off approach where you have

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS You missed rsync. Rsync is another one-off approach where you have to roll your own

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
Anyone have any experience with this, which just came to my attention http://www.arkeia.com/en/solutions/open-source-solutions -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Rob Kampen
Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:31 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS You missed rsync. Rsync is another one-off approach where

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Alan McKay
I use backuppc, but find that in order to restore one has to be or know the admin user password. There appears to be no way to open this up to users to directly see and restore from the file tree that it manages. Huh? No. Users can do their own restores from the web interface without

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@kampensonline.com wrote: I use backuppc, but find that in order to restore one has to be or know the admin user password. There appears to be no way to open this up to users to directly see and restore from the file tree that it

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Mikael Fridh
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, I just went through the archives to see what people are doing for backups, and here is what I found : - amanda - bacula - BackupPC - FreeNAS Here is my situation : we have pretty much all Sun hardware with

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/08/11 11:26 AM, Mikael Fridh wrote: For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do replication between them. what zfs replication is that? last I heard, the only supported replication was physical block replication of the underlying device(s) (avs in solaris cluster, drbd

Re: [CentOS] Backup Redux

2011-12-08 Thread Mikael Fridh
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 12/08/11 11:26 AM, Mikael Fridh wrote: For more redundancy and performance, add more ZFS boxes, do replication between them. what zfs replication is that?  last I heard, the only supported replication was physical