[CentOS] NetworkManager: Remove one of two DHCP leases

I forgot to release the DHCP IPv4 lease on a PC before I deployed it at the customer site. So now the box has two leases for a couple days, when the old lease expires. What's the proper way to force the unwanted additional lease to expire immediately? It's mucking up my resolv.conf with the old

[CentOS] NetworkManager, Centos 8, Ipv6 Prefix Delegation

Hello, i try to use (Centos8) NetworkManager builtin Prefix-Delegation for ipv6. Unfortunately i found no howto is helping me. i do: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: [main] dhcp=dhclient Modify Cons: nmcli con modify LOKAL1 ipv6.method shared nmcli con modify LOKAL2 ipv6.method

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

Le 13/02/2020 à 17:50, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit : In the end, the problem is that NetworkManager, FirewallD, and other 'automatic' helpers are 'part' of the OS.. and while it was easy to tear them out in earlier versions.. as time goes on it is not. For a car analogy, it was much easier to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

hi, On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 8:55 AM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > > On servers though, one of the first post-installation steps I performed > was to > get rid of Network-Manager and all its components. The servers I'm working > on > are relatively small-scale and have from one to four

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On 2020-02-13 10:50, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 11:40, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 11/02/2020 à 14:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit : I've mentioned on this list countless times about how NetworkManager is actually pretty good for a general server. Automatic link

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 05:53:41PM +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > I just came to the same conclusion. So it looks like I'll have to > catch up and do some RTFM on NetworkManager, FirewallD (which I've > replaced by a handcrafted iptables script) and Chrony (replaced by > ntpd). Whatever your

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

Le 13/02/2020 à 17:50, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit : In the end, the problem is that NetworkManager, FirewallD, and other 'automatic' helpers are 'part' of the OS.. and while it was easy to tear them out in earlier versions.. as time goes on it is not. For a car analogy, it was much easier to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 11:40, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 11/02/2020 à 14:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit : > > I've mentioned on this list countless times about how NetworkManager > > is actually pretty good for a general server. Automatic link > > detection and activation/deactivation, a

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

Le 11/02/2020 à 14:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit : I've mentioned on this list countless times about how NetworkManager is actually pretty good for a general server. Automatic link detection and activation/deactivation, a dispatch service on link activation/deactivation, support for bringing up

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:29:29PM +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > As much as I love CentOS (been using it since 4.x), some days I just miss > the bone-headed approach of Slackware and FreeBSD. Just edit > /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf or /etc/rc.conf and you're done. Nothing is stopping you from

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

Le 11/02/2020 à 16:27, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit : 1. Red Hat is a company of 14,000 people many of which have diverging views on how things should be run and why. This means that you may see 4-5 different tools to fix a problem all of which solve the part that they were originally developed

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 08:17, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:12 AM Jonathan Billings > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:11:04AM +0100, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: > > > Unfortunately, instead of fixing/refactoring the whole bash networking > > > script mess,

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 08:17:18AM -0500, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I thought that systemd was under redhat, so I am confused why > they would not be pushing it instead of networkmanager. Am I missing > something? systemd has several Red Hat employees working on systemd, I believe, but it's

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:12 AM Jonathan Billings wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:11:04AM +0100, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: > > Unfortunately, instead of fixing/refactoring the whole bash networking > > script mess, another new project was started instead, called > > systemd-networkd

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:11:04AM +0100, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: > Thanks for confirming that NetworkManager is not the solution for > everyone. To me it seems that NetworkManager was developed by laptop users > for laptop users and that's why it is what it is today. Useful for >

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

> On 09/02/2020 23:55, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > Hi Nicolas, > > [snip] > >> Maybe there's a reason to make NetworkManager more or less mandatory >> from now on, but I don't see it. So I thought I'd rather ask on this >> list. > > Like you, I read about NetworkManager becoming the default tool for

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On 09/02/2020 23:55, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Hi Nicolas, [snip] > Maybe there's a reason to make NetworkManager more or less mandatory > from now on, but I don't see it. So I thought I'd rather ask on this list. Like you, I read about NetworkManager becoming the default tool for CentOS 8. So I

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen said: > The reason is that having 1 way to configure networks makes it so the > developer and tech support only have to diagnose issues from 1 set of tools > versus two different ones (and occasionally 2 competing ones if both are > trying to do their job at

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 02:55, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently reading the upstream "Considerations in adopting RHEL 8" > document. The chapter about networking states that traditional networking > scripts (shipped with the network-scripts package) are considered obsolete. > > I

[CentOS] NetworkManager on servers

Hi, I'm currently reading the upstream "Considerations in adopting RHEL 8" document. The chapter about networking states that traditional networking scripts (shipped with the network-scripts package) are considered obsolete. I bluntly admit I don't see the point in this. As far as I'm

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, Simon Matter wrote: Alice was talking about CentOS 7.5, which doesn't have systemd-resolved nor does it have systemd-networkd. I didn't look at EL8 betas yet but we can probably expect systemd-networkd to be included there. If that's the case, we'll probably have legacy

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

> > On 11/19/18 6:49 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: >> CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. >> >> unbound running on localhost. >> >> Have to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

On 11/19/18 6:49 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. unbound running on localhost. Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

> On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: >> On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: >>> On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. unbound running on localhost. Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: >> On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: >>> CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. >>> >>> unbound running on localhost. >>> >>> Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using >>> the

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. unbound running on localhost. Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. unbound running on localhost. Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets restarted (usually only a system boot) it gets

[CentOS] NetworkManager and /etc/resolv.conf

CentOS 7.5 image running on linode. unbound running on localhost. Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets restarted (usually only a system boot) it gets over-written. It seems every distro has a

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager, multiple IPs, and selinux...

On 10/4/18 1:10 PM, Sean wrote: I was wondering if any one has seen issues with selinux name_bind denials that result from having IP:PORT bindings for services to specific IP addresses managed on an interface under NetworkManager's control? I don't.  I have httpd processes listening on

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager, multiple IPs, and selinux...

On 10/4/18 4:10 PM, Sean wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if any one has seen issues with selinux name_bind denials > that result from having IP:PORT bindings for services to specific IP > addresses managed on an interface under NetworkManager's control? Is selinux denying the request or

[CentOS] NetworkManager, multiple IPs, and selinux...

Hello, I was wondering if any one has seen issues with selinux name_bind denials that result from having IP:PORT bindings for services to specific IP addresses managed on an interface under NetworkManager's control? I do realize that people will probably say stop using NetworkManager, and I may,

[CentOS] NetworkManager and multiple dhcp router option

Hello, Our DHCP server broadcasts a router option consisting of 2 IPs. Ideally they should both be set as default routes with different metrics, however this is not what is happening, only the first one gets used. Anyone has any tips how to convince NetworkManager to do this? Cheers -- Sent

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager updating resolv.cfg

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Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager updating resolv.cfg

On 21 June 2018 12:13:02 "anax" wrote: Hi Shagun check your settings of PEERDNS and IPV6_PEERDNS... suomi On 06/21/2018 08:33 AM, Maheshwari, Shagun wrote: Hi, I am facing issue stoping NetworkManager to update resolv.cfg, I am using below configuration for eth0 interface:

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager updating resolv.cfg

Hi Shagun check your settings of PEERDNS and IPV6_PEERDNS... suomi On 06/21/2018 08:33 AM, Maheshwari, Shagun wrote: Hi, I am facing issue stoping NetworkManager to update resolv.cfg, I am using below configuration for eth0 interface: TYPE=Ethernet BOOTPROTO=dhcp DEFROUTE=yes

[CentOS] NetworkManager updating resolv.cfg

Hi, I am facing issue stoping NetworkManager to update resolv.cfg, I am using below configuration for eth0 interface: TYPE=Ethernet BOOTPROTO=dhcp DEFROUTE=yes IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no IPV6INIT=yes IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy

[CentOS] NetworkManager dnsmasq plugin

I am trying to get dnsmasq to work through NetworkManager by putting dns=dnsmasq into /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf NetworkManager still works but dnsmasq doesn't start. I get this error in /var/log/messages: could not load plugin 'dnsmasq' from file

[CentOS] NetworkManager and Half DHCP not work correct - second time.

Hello Guys, today i strungle in my office and at home. 1. The networkadapter works before on "full" dhcp. 2. change to half (means searchname and searchserver manual) 3. order was correct inside the config, but in seperated network configs: PEERDNS=yes ? 5. DNS Server where in

[CentOS] NetworkManager vs. Firewalld vs. /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*****

I've made 3 CentOS 7 installation attempts to configure a simple firewall/router box with 2 nics. I got myself into a circular scenario where NetworkManager and firewalld and /etc/sysconfig/network-scrpts/ifcfg-* were interfering or overwriting each other. Needed to perform ifdown enp3s7 on

[CentOS] networkmanager VS OpenConnect VPN

I have a VPN connection using the openconnect vpn, and it is managed by network manager. Works fine. It has been on my system since the original Centos 7.x release. Now that I have Centos 7.3, while it still works fine, I find that I can no longer add a new connection using openconnect. I also

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager icon not showing

Le 02/11/2016 à 17:16, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit : > I just installed CentOS 7 on my Asus S300 laptop. Wireless was working > OK at first, but now for mysterious reasons the NetworkManager icon > seems to have disappeared from the notification area. When I click on > that area, there's only

[CentOS] NetworkManager icon not showing

Hi, I just installed CentOS 7 on my Asus S300 laptop. Wireless was working OK at first, but now for mysterious reasons the NetworkManager icon seems to have disappeared from the notification area. When I click on that area, there's only information showing about sound, brightness, battery status

[CentOS] NetworkManager default route

Hello, Why is it so, that NetworkManager allows, and in several cases I've had, defaults to setting default route to several interfaces at the same time? Had my fair share of problems with how 172.17.62.something interface tries to ask for a DHCP lease from 193.something network. I know I

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager default route

Because I /*shouldn't */have to do that. It comes as a default network management service, so it's a bit counter-intuitive to have it drop the connection every few hours. And some parts of it are actually pretty good (nmcli -p con show). -- Sander Kuusemets University of Tartu, High

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager default route

How about disabling network manager and using the static ip addresses? Eero 17.3.2016 9.05 ip. "Sander Kuusemets" kirjoitti: > Hello, > > Why is it so, that NetworkManager allows, and in several cases I've had, > defaults to setting default route to several interfaces at

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager default route

On 03/17/2016 12:04 PM, Sander Kuusemets wrote: Why is it so, that NetworkManager allows, and in several cases I've had, defaults to setting default route to several interfaces at the same time? It does what the operators of the networks tell it to do. Had my fair share of problems with how

[CentOS] NetworkManager and network service

Hi, folks, I 've created interfaces files with the NM_CONTROLLED=no statement and I've found that even after restarting network services changes are not commited. Only it worked after running nmcli connection reload restart of the network service worked. I wonder if it's either a

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

- Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: James Hogarth james.hoga...@gmail.com Aan: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Verzonden: Donderdag 11 juni 2015 19:59:39 Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs On 11 Jun 2015 13:28, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

On 12 Jun 2015 10:30, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be wrote: I can't believe I mist that. Running transaction Installeren : 1:NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.0-14.git20150121.b4ea599c.el7.x86_64 1/1 Verifiëren :

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

On 11 Jun 2015 13:28, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be wrote: - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: johan vermeulen7 johan.vermeul...@telenet.be Aan: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 18:23:58 Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

- Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: johan vermeulen7 johan.vermeul...@telenet.be Aan: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 18:23:58 Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: m roth

[CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

Hello All, on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types of Latitude laptops, with 3 different wireless cars, of Centos7 and Mate desktop, it looks to me like NetworkManager is nog managing wireless. When clicking the nm icon in the top right corner, I'm not seeing access points.

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

- Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: johan vermeulen7 johan.vermeul...@telenet.be Aan: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 11:51:46 Onderwerp: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs Hello All, on the latest installs I've done, on 2

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:51:46AM +0200, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be wrote: Hello All, on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types of Latitude laptops, with 3 different wireless cars, of Centos7 and Mate desktop, it looks to me like NetworkManager is nog

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:51:46AM +0200, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be wrote: Hello All, on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types of Latitude laptops, with 3 different wireless cars, of Centos7 and Mate desktop, it looks to me like NetworkManager is nog managing wireless.

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs

- Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: m roth m.r...@5-cent.us Aan: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 16:36:40 Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:51:46AM +0200

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Mon, December 1, 2014 16:48, Les Mikesell wrote: Is there anyone who has more than a few boxes at more than one location who _doesn't_ have this issue? I'd like to see a FAQ or something by whoever designed the network configuration system about how they planned for it to work (with and

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@reaching-clients.com wrote: Have you put NM_CONTROLLED=no in the ifcfg-eth0 script? How is that better than systemctl stop NetworkManager systemctl disable NetworkManager Again, I’m not really after a way to make this work without

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Rob Kampen rkam...@reaching-clients.com wrote: Have you put NM_CONTROLLED=no in the ifcfg-eth0 script? How is that better than systemctl stop NetworkManager systemctl disable

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:52 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: On Mon, December 1, 2014 16:48, Les Mikesell wrote: Is there anyone who has more than a few boxes at more than one location who _doesn't_ have this issue? I'd like to see a FAQ or something by whoever designed the

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: Again, I’m not really after a way to make this work without NetworkManager. What part of the breakage that NetworkManager does is good for a wired,

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Think 'laptop'. Why would you need a static IP to stick to a laptop? Or have multiple NICs on one? Wired and WiFi. If you configure a static IP with the wired Ethernet plugged in, you probably want that static IP to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: What part of the breakage that NetworkManager does is good for a wired, static-addressed server? If you disable NM, the network configuration GUI stops working in EL7. (I didn’t do much with EL6, but I thought its GUI

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Think 'laptop'. Why would you need a static IP to stick to a laptop? Or have multiple NICs on one? Wired and WiFi. If you configure a static IP

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: What part of the breakage that NetworkManager does is good for a wired, static-addressed server? If you disable NM, the network configuration GUI

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Think 'laptop'. Why would you need a static IP to stick to a laptop? Or have

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: Really? That's insane. Our wired jacks are not on the same subnets as our access points. I'm not sure that's even possible with the Cisco units that have separate controllers. In such a network, you won’t run static IP

[CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out to the site, where they just plug it in, turn it on, and walk away. That’s

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Dec 1, 2014, at 14:48, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Nathan Duehr denverpi...@me.com wrote: We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager fights with DHCP-only backup NIC

On 12/02/2014 10:35 AM, Warren Young wrote: We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out to the site, where they just

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu: On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote: On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing after the 20s? I mean, the cars

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 25/08/14 12:38 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote: Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu: On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote: On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: To continue your analogy, should car companies have

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: More important with regards to the minimal install set it matches what Red Hat is doing. And most of us *still* don't like it mark Time is ticking on... The longer you

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Sat, August 23, 2014 5:00 am, m...@tdiehl.org wrote: I hate network mangler as much as the next guy but is it really worth all of the whining when all it takes to disable it is: It would be worth whining about it if anybody of decision makers ever listened to these complaints. As some day

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

You are whining about something FREE…don’t like it, don’t use it….if you had a PAID RHEL sub, upstream to Cent, on then bitch…..but whining about something free, well On Aug 23, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Sat, August 23, 2014 5:00 am, m...@tdiehl.org

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Sat, August 23, 2014 8:42 am, William Woods wrote: You are whining about something FREE…don’t like it, don’t use it….if you had a PAID RHEL sub, upstream to Cent, on then bitch…..but whining about something free, well Was I that unclear that I sounded like the one who keeps whining? I

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 2014-08-23, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: The suggestion you made to switch to commercial system [sorry I brought your suggestion one step further in the same direction, oh I'm really tricky person] is quite in line with what commercial vendors would like to happen to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote: On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right? The

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 2014-08-23, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote: NetworkManager is the window's world way of doing things for people that don't really understand what is going on. I see no use for it immediately disable it. But it pains me to have to take the time. If you do it often enough, you

[CentOS] NetworkManager

So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager. I somewhat understand its usefulness, especially for wlan / desktops, and its not like it really bothers me.. That being said, it seems to me with my naive

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote: So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager. I somewhat understand its usefulness, especially for wlan / desktops, and its not like it really bothers me..

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:58:29PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote: So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager. I somewhat understand its usefulness,

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

John R. Dennison wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:58:29PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote: So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager. I somewhat

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 06:13:56PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And most of us *still* don't like it And luckily there is a solution. Don't use CentOS-7. John -- The price we pay for money is paid in liberty. -- Robert Louis Stevenson

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 22/08/14 06:13 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John R. Dennison wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:58:29PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote: So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: More important with regards to the minimal install set it matches what Red Hat is doing. And most of us *still* don't like it mark Time is ticking on... The longer you avoid learning what is coming, the further

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 05:24:06PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do something that already worked - or how to disable the new thing so it doesn't break your working setup - doesn't really put you ahead of anything. This is a _major_

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 08/23/2014 12:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do something that already worked - or how to disable the new thing so it doesn't break your working setup - doesn't really put you ahead of anything. I totally agree, Les, I think RH and

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 05:24:06PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do something that already worked - or how to disable the new thing so it doesn't break your

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 8/22/2014 3:39 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: It's not so much 'The' Red Hat way of doing things - although SysV mostly had it right in the first place. But the annoying part is the number of Red Hat Ways' that are just arbitrarily different - like a car company swapping the brake and gas pedal

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 22/08/14 06:39 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 05:24:06PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do something that already worked - or how to disable

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right? The point is to abstract an interface so you can make changes behind it without

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer li...@alteeve.ca wrote: To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right? The point is to abstract an interface so

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

On 2014-08-22, Bernard Lheureux bernard.lheur...@bbsoft4.org wrote: I totally agree, Les, I think RH and CentOS are really going the wrong way since the release of that ugly version 7 !!! You can always start a NoNetworkManager SIG. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

[CentOS] NetworkManager substitute??

I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to use VirtualBox or VMware, or etc. All the HOWTOs I see tell you to disable NM. I use NM to manage VPN clients that I use for remote access to my office, among other places. How would I manage those VPN clients if I didn't use

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager substitute??

On 28.10.2013 17:52, Fred Smith wrote: I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to use VirtualBox or VMware, or etc. All the HOWTOs I see tell you to disable NM. I use NM to manage VPN clients that I use for remote access to my office, among other places.

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager substitute??

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: On 28.10.2013 17:52, Fred Smith wrote: I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to use VirtualBox or VMware, or etc. All the HOWTOs I see tell you to disable NM. I use NM to manage VPN clients that I use

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager substitute??

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:16:18AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: On 28.10.2013 17:52, Fred Smith wrote: I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to use VirtualBox or VMware, or etc. All the HOWTOs I see

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