I forgot to release the DHCP IPv4 lease on a PC before I deployed it at the
customer site. So now the box has two leases for a couple days, when the
old lease expires. What's the proper way to force the unwanted additional
lease to expire immediately? It's mucking up my resolv.conf with the old
Hello,
i try to use (Centos8) NetworkManager builtin Prefix-Delegation for
ipv6. Unfortunately i found no howto is helping me.
i do:
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf:
[main]
dhcp=dhclient
Modify Cons:
nmcli con modify LOKAL1 ipv6.method shared
nmcli con modify LOKAL2 ipv6.method sha
Le 13/02/2020 à 17:50, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :
In the end, the problem is that NetworkManager, FirewallD, and other
'automatic' helpers are 'part' of the OS.. and while it was easy to tear
them out in earlier versions.. as time goes on it is not.
For a car analogy, it was much easier to c
hi,
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 8:55 AM Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On servers though, one of the first post-installation steps I performed
> was to
> get rid of Network-Manager and all its components. The servers I'm working
> on
> are relatively small-scale and have from one to four ne
On 2020-02-13 10:50, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 11:40, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Le 11/02/2020 à 14:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit :
I've mentioned on this list countless times about how NetworkManager
is actually pretty good for a general server. Automatic link
detectio
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 05:53:41PM +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> I just came to the same conclusion. So it looks like I'll have to
> catch up and do some RTFM on NetworkManager, FirewallD (which I've
> replaced by a handcrafted iptables script) and Chrony (replaced by
> ntpd).
Whatever your views
Le 13/02/2020 à 17:50, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :
In the end, the problem is that NetworkManager, FirewallD, and other
'automatic' helpers are 'part' of the OS.. and while it was easy to tear
them out in earlier versions.. as time goes on it is not.
For a car analogy, it was much easier to c
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 11:40, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 11/02/2020 à 14:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit :
> > I've mentioned on this list countless times about how NetworkManager
> > is actually pretty good for a general server. Automatic link
> > detection and activation/deactivation, a dispatch
Le 11/02/2020 à 14:11, Jonathan Billings a écrit :
I've mentioned on this list countless times about how NetworkManager
is actually pretty good for a general server. Automatic link
detection and activation/deactivation, a dispatch service on link
activation/deactivation, support for bringing up
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:29:29PM +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> As much as I love CentOS (been using it since 4.x), some days I just miss
> the bone-headed approach of Slackware and FreeBSD. Just edit
> /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf or /etc/rc.conf and you're done.
Nothing is stopping you from creatin
Le 11/02/2020 à 16:27, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :
1. Red Hat is a company of 14,000 people many of which have diverging views
on how things should be run and why. This means that you may see 4-5
different tools to fix a problem all of which solve the part that they were
originally developed f
On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 08:17, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:12 AM Jonathan Billings
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:11:04AM +0100, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, instead of fixing/refactoring the whole bash networking
> > > script mess, anot
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 08:17:18AM -0500, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> I thought that systemd was under redhat, so I am confused why
> they would not be pushing it instead of networkmanager. Am I missing
> something?
systemd has several Red Hat employees working on systemd, I believe,
but it's
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 8:12 AM Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:11:04AM +0100, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
> > Unfortunately, instead of fixing/refactoring the whole bash networking
> > script mess, another new project was started instead, called
> > systemd-networkd :-)
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 06:11:04AM +0100, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
> Thanks for confirming that NetworkManager is not the solution for
> everyone. To me it seems that NetworkManager was developed by laptop users
> for laptop users and that's why it is what it is today. Useful for
> laptops/de
> On 09/02/2020 23:55, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>
> Hi Nicolas,
>
> [snip]
>
>> Maybe there's a reason to make NetworkManager more or less mandatory
>> from now on, but I don't see it. So I thought I'd rather ask on this
>> list.
>
> Like you, I read about NetworkManager becoming the default tool for
On 09/02/2020 23:55, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
Hi Nicolas,
[snip]
> Maybe there's a reason to make NetworkManager more or less mandatory
> from now on, but I don't see it. So I thought I'd rather ask on this list.
Like you, I read about NetworkManager becoming the default tool for
CentOS 8. So I sa
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen said:
> The reason is that having 1 way to configure networks makes it so the
> developer and tech support only have to diagnose issues from 1 set of tools
> versus two different ones (and occasionally 2 competing ones if both are
> trying to do their job at
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 02:55, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently reading the upstream "Considerations in adopting RHEL 8"
> document. The chapter about networking states that traditional networking
> scripts (shipped with the network-scripts package) are considered obsolete.
>
> I blun
Hi,
I'm currently reading the upstream "Considerations in adopting RHEL 8"
document. The chapter about networking states that traditional networking
scripts (shipped with the network-scripts package) are considered obsolete.
I bluntly admit I don't see the point in this. As far as I'm concern
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, Simon Matter wrote:
Alice was talking about CentOS 7.5, which doesn't have systemd-resolved
nor does it have systemd-networkd. I didn't look at EL8 betas yet but we
can probably expect systemd-networkd to be included there. If that's the
case, we'll probably have legacy scri
>
> On 11/19/18 6:49 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>> CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
>>
>> unbound running on localhost.
>>
>> Have to u
On 11/19/18 6:49 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
unbound running on localhost.
Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resol
> On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
unbound running on localhost.
Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using
>>
On 11/17/18 8:31 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>> CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
>>>
>>> unbound running on localhost.
>>>
>>> Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using
>>> the loc
On 11/17/2018 07:01 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
unbound running on localhost.
Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using
the localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets
resta
On 11/17/2018 06:43 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
unbound running on localhost.
Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the
localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets restarted
(usually only a system boot) it gets ove
CentOS 7.5 image running on linode.
unbound running on localhost.
Have to use a cron job once a minute to keep /etc/resolv.conf using the
localhost for name resolution - whenever NetworkManager gets restarted
(usually only a system boot) it gets over-written.
It seems every distro has a diff
On 10/4/18 1:10 PM, Sean wrote:
I was wondering if any one has seen issues with selinux name_bind denials
that result from having IP:PORT bindings for services to specific IP
addresses managed on an interface under NetworkManager's control?
I don't. I have httpd processes listening on specifi
On 10/4/18 4:10 PM, Sean wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if any one has seen issues with selinux name_bind denials
> that result from having IP:PORT bindings for services to specific IP
> addresses managed on an interface under NetworkManager's control?
Is selinux denying the request or the
Hello,
I was wondering if any one has seen issues with selinux name_bind denials
that result from having IP:PORT bindings for services to specific IP
addresses managed on an interface under NetworkManager's control?
I do realize that people will probably say stop using NetworkManager, and I
may,
Hello,
Our DHCP server broadcasts a router option consisting of 2 IPs.
Ideally they should both be set as default routes with different metrics,
however this is not what is happening, only the first one gets used.
Anyone has any tips how to convince NetworkManager to do this?
Cheers
--
Sent fro
ords at all.
jh
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:14:08 +0100
From: "peter.winterflood"
To: CentOS mailing list , anax
Subject: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager updating resolv.cfg
Message-ID:
<16422442280.27db.2b6837a33dad96cb17d193f32630f...@os
On 21 June 2018 12:13:02 "anax" wrote:
Hi Shagun
check your settings of PEERDNS and IPV6_PEERDNS...
suomi
On 06/21/2018 08:33 AM, Maheshwari, Shagun wrote:
Hi,
I am facing issue stoping NetworkManager to update resolv.cfg, I am using
below configuration for eth0 interface:
TYPE=Ether
Hi Shagun
check your settings of PEERDNS and IPV6_PEERDNS...
suomi
On 06/21/2018 08:33 AM, Maheshwari, Shagun wrote:
Hi,
I am facing issue stoping NetworkManager to update resolv.cfg, I am using below
configuration for eth0 interface:
TYPE=Ethernet
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FA
Hi,
I am facing issue stoping NetworkManager to update resolv.cfg, I am using below
configuration for eth0 interface:
TYPE=Ethernet
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=eth0
I am trying to get dnsmasq to work through NetworkManager by putting
dns=dnsmasq into /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
NetworkManager still works but dnsmasq doesn't start.
I get this error in /var/log/messages:
could not load plugin 'dnsmasq' from file
'/usr/lib64/NetworkManager/libnm-se
Hello Guys,
today i strungle in my office and at home.
1. The networkadapter works before on "full" dhcp.
2. change to half (means searchname and searchserver manual)
3. order was correct inside the config, but in seperated network
configs:
PEERDNS=yes ?
5. DNS Server where in wrong
I've made 3 CentOS 7 installation attempts to configure a simple
firewall/router box with 2 nics.
I got myself into a circular scenario where NetworkManager and
firewalld and /etc/sysconfig/network-scrpts/ifcfg-* were
interfering or overwriting each other.
Needed to perform ifdown enp3s7 on th
I have a VPN connection using the openconnect vpn, and it is managed by network
manager. Works fine.
It has been on my system since the original Centos 7.x release.
Now that I have Centos 7.3, while it still works fine, I find that
I can no longer add a new connection using openconnect. I also f
Le 02/11/2016 à 17:16, Nicolas Kovacs a écrit :
> I just installed CentOS 7 on my Asus S300 laptop. Wireless was working
> OK at first, but now for mysterious reasons the NetworkManager icon
> seems to have disappeared from the notification area. When I click on
> that area, there's only informatio
Hi,
I just installed CentOS 7 on my Asus S300 laptop. Wireless was working
OK at first, but now for mysterious reasons the NetworkManager icon
seems to have disappeared from the notification area. When I click on
that area, there's only information showing about sound, brightness,
battery status a
Hello,
Why is it so, that NetworkManager allows, and in several cases I've had,
defaults to setting default route to several interfaces at the same time?
Had my fair share of problems with how 172.17.62.something interface
tries to ask for a DHCP lease from 193.something network. I know I cou
Because I /*shouldn't */have to do that. It comes as a default network
management service, so it's a bit counter-intuitive to have it drop the
connection every few hours.
And some parts of it are actually pretty good (nmcli -p con show).
--
Sander Kuusemets
University of Tartu, High Performanc
How about disabling network manager and using the static ip addresses?
Eero
17.3.2016 9.05 ip. "Sander Kuusemets" kirjoitti:
> Hello,
>
> Why is it so, that NetworkManager allows, and in several cases I've had,
> defaults to setting default route to several interfaces at the same time?
>
> Had m
On 03/17/2016 12:04 PM, Sander Kuusemets wrote:
Why is it so, that NetworkManager allows, and in several cases I've
had, defaults to setting default route to several interfaces at the
same time?
It does what the operators of the networks tell it to do.
Had my fair share of problems with how 1
Hi, folks,
I 've created interfaces files with the NM_CONTROLLED=no statement and I've
found that even after restarting network services changes are not commited.
Only it worked after running
nmcli connection reload
restart of the network service worked.
I wonder if it's either a fea
On 12 Jun 2015 10:30, wrote:
>
> I can't believe I mist that.
>
> Running transaction
> Installeren :
1:NetworkManager-wifi-1.0.0-14.git20150121.b4ea599c.el7.x86_64
1/1
> Verifiëren :
1:NetworkManager-wifi-1.0
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Verzonden: Donderdag 11 juni 2015 19:59:39
Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs
On 11 Jun 2015 13:28, wrote:
>
>
>
> - Oorspronke
On 11 Jun 2015 13:28, wrote:
>
>
>
> - Oorspronkelijk bericht -
> Van: "johan vermeulen7"
> Aan: "CentOS mailing list"
> Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 18:23:58
> Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7
i
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Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 18:23:58
Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs
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Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs
Fred Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:51:46AM +0200, johan.vermeu
Fred Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:51:46AM +0200, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be
> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types of Latitude
>> laptops, with 3 different wireless cars, of Centos7 and Mate desktop,
>> it looks to me like NetworkManager is
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:51:46AM +0200, johan.vermeul...@telenet.be wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types of Latitude laptops,
> with 3 different wireless cars, of Centos7 and Mate desktop,
> it looks to me like NetworkManager is nog managing wireless.
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Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 juni 2015 11:51:46
Onderwerp: [CentOS] NetworkManager / wireless on latest Centos7 installs
Hello All,
on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types o
Hello All,
on the latest installs I've done, on 2 different types of Latitude laptops,
with 3 different wireless cars, of Centos7 and Mate desktop,
it looks to me like NetworkManager is nog managing wireless.
When clicking the nm icon in the top right corner, I'm not seeing access
points.
W
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>
>> Really? That's insane. Our wired jacks are not on the same subnets
>> as our access points. I'm not sure that's even possible with the
>> Cisco units that have separate controllers.
>
> In such a network, you won’t run static IP configur
On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>
Think 'laptop'.
>>>
>>> Why would you need a static IP to stick to a laptop? Or have
>>> multiple NICs on one?
>>
>> Wired and Wi
On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>>>
>>> What part of the breakage that NetworkManager does is good for a
>>> wired, static-addressed server?
>>
>> If you disable NM, the network configuration GUI stops working in EL7.
>
>
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>
>>> Think 'laptop'.
>>
>> Why would you need a static IP to stick to a laptop? Or have
>> multiple NICs on one?
>
> Wired and WiFi.
>
> If you configure a static IP with the wired Ethernet pl
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> >
>> What part of the breakage that NetworkManager does is good for a
>> wired, static-addressed server?
>
> If you disable NM, the network configuration GUI stops working in EL7. (I
> didn’t do much with EL6, but I thought its GUI had a fall
On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Think 'laptop'.
>
> Why would you need a static IP to stick to a laptop? Or have
> multiple NICs on one?
Wired and WiFi.
If you configure a static IP with the wired Ethernet plugged in, you probably
want that static IP to continue being use
On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> Again, I’m not really after a way to make this work without NetworkManager.
>
> What part of the breakage that NetworkManager does is good for a
> wired, static-addressed server?
If you d
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:52 AM, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Mon, December 1, 2014 16:48, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>
>> Is there anyone who has more than a few boxes at more than one
>> location who _doesn't_ have this issue? I'd like to see a FAQ or
>> something by whoever designed the network confi
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Rob Kampen wrote:
>
>> Have you put
>> NM_CONTROLLED="no"
>> in the ifcfg-eth0 script?
>
> How is that better than
>
> systemctl stop NetworkManager
> systemctl disable NetworkManager
>
> Again, I’m not rea
On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:27 PM, Rob Kampen wrote:
> Have you put
> NM_CONTROLLED="no"
> in the ifcfg-eth0 script?
How is that better than
systemctl stop NetworkManager
systemctl disable NetworkManager
Again, I’m not really after a way to make this work without NetworkManager.
We’ve alre
On Mon, December 1, 2014 16:48, Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> Is there anyone who has more than a few boxes at more than one
> location who _doesn't_ have this issue? I'd like to see a FAQ or
> something by whoever designed the network configuration system about
> how they planned for it to work (with
On 12/02/2014 10:35 AM, Warren Young wrote:
We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar
with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box
before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out to the site,
where they just pl
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Nathan Duehr wrote:
>
>>
>>> We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs
>>> familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for
>>> the box before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out
>>> to
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 14:48, Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>
>> We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs
>> familiar with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for
>> the box before we ship it, then w
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar
> with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box
> before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out to the
> site, wh
We ship servers to remote sites, which are rarely staffed with techs familiar
with Linux. We have them tell us the static IP configuration for the box
before we ship it, then we set it up for them here and ship it out to the site,
where they just plug it in, turn it on, and walk away.
That’s t
On 25/08/14 12:38 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu:
>> On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote:
>>> On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer wrote:
> To continue your analogy, should car companies have s
Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu:
> On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote:
>> On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer wrote:
To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing
after the 20s? I mean, the cars then g
On 2014-08-23, Steve Clark wrote:
> NetworkManager is the window's world way of doing things for people that
> don't really understand
> what is going on. I see no use for it immediately disable it. But it pains me
> to have to take the time.
If you do it often enough, you should probably creat
On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote:
> On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer wrote:
>>> To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing
>>> after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right?
>> The point
On 2014-08-23, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> The suggestion you made to switch to commercial system [sorry I brought
> your suggestion one step further in the same direction, oh I'm really
> tricky person] is quite in line with what commercial vendors would like to
> happen to free (as free beer) comp
On Sat, August 23, 2014 8:42 am, William Woods wrote:
> You are whining about something FREE
dont like it, dont use it
.if you
> had a PAID RHEL
> sub, upstream to Cent, on then bitch
..but whining about something free,
> well
Was I that unclear that I sounded like the one who keeps whining? I
You are whining about something FREE…don’t like it, don’t use it….if you had a
PAID RHEL
sub, upstream to Cent, on then bitch…..but whining about something free, well
On Aug 23, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> On Sat, August 23, 2014 5:00 am, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
>> I hate networ
On Sat, August 23, 2014 5:00 am, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
> I hate network mangler as much as the next guy but is it really worth all
> of
> the whining when all it takes to disable it is:
>
It would be worth "whining about it" if anybody of decision makers ever
listened to these complaints. As som
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Digimer wrote:
> More important with regards to the minimal install set it matches what
Red Hat is doing.
>>> And most of us *still* don't like it
>>>
>>> mark
>>
>> Time is ticking on... The lo
On 2014-08-22, Bernard Lheureux wrote:
> I totally agree, Les, I think RH and CentOS are really going the wrong
> way since the release of that ugly version 7 !!!
You can always start a NoNetworkManager SIG.
--keith
--
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
_
On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer wrote:
>>>
>> To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing
>> after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right?
>
> The point is to abstract an interface so you can
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer wrote:
> >
> To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing
> after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right?
The point is to abstract an interface so you can make changes behind
it without breaking the thin
On 22/08/14 06:39 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 05:24:06PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do
>>> something that already worked - or how to disable the new t
On 8/22/2014 3:39 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> It's not so much 'The' Red Hat way of doing things - although SysV
> mostly had it right in the first place. But the annoying part is the
> number of Red Hat "Ways' that are just arbitrarily different - like a
> car company swapping the brake and gas ped
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:33 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 05:24:06PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do
>> something that already worked - or how to disable the new thing so it
>> doesn't break your working setup
On 08/23/2014 12:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do
> something that already worked - or how to disable the new thing so it
> doesn't break your working setup - doesn't really put you ahead of
> anything.
I totally agree, Les, I think RH an
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 05:24:06PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Except that wasting time re-learning a new and strange way to do
> something that already worked - or how to disable the new thing so it
> doesn't break your working setup - doesn't really put you ahead of
> anything.
This is a _major
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Digimer wrote:
More important with regards to the minimal install set it matches what
>>> Red Hat is doing.
>>>
>> And most of us *still* don't like it
>>
>> mark
>
> Time is ticking on... The longer you avoid learning what is coming, the
> furthe
On 22/08/14 06:13 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:58:29PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
>>> On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote:
So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in
contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - pr
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 06:13:56PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> And most of us *still* don't like it
And luckily there is a solution. Don't use CentOS-7.
John
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John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:58:29PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote:
>> > So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in
>> > contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager.
>> >
>> > I so
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:58:29PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote:
> > So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in
> > contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager.
> >
> > I somewhat understand its usefulnes
On 8/22/2014 2:55 PM, Christof Stocker wrote:
> So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in
> contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager.
>
> I somewhat understand its usefulness, especially for wlan / desktops,
> and its not like it really bothers m
So I noticed that the minimal installation of CentOS 7 comes - in
contrary to minimal CentOS 6.5 - preinstalled with the NetworkManager.
I somewhat understand its usefulness, especially for wlan / desktops,
and its not like it really bothers me.. That being said, it seems to me
with my naive li
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 07:41:59PM -0400, SilverTip257 wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nux! wrote:
>
> > On 28.10.2013 17:52, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to
> > > use
> > > VirtualBox or VMware, or etc.
> > >
> > > All the H
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Nux! wrote:
> On 28.10.2013 17:52, Fred Smith wrote:
> > I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to
> > use
> > VirtualBox or VMware, or etc.
> >
> > All the HOWTOs I see tell you to disable NM.
>
There is no reason to disable NM entire
On 28.10.2013 18:23, Fred Smith wrote:
> thanks, I'll go take a look. As far as I can tell from all the
> aforementioned HOWTOs, bridged is the way to do it?? none of 'em
> says anything about doing it any other way. what am I overlooking
> in my ignorance?
If all you want is just to have a local
On 10/28/2013 11:23 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
> thanks, I'll go take a look. As far as I can tell from all the
> aforementioned HOWTOs, bridged is the way to do it?? none of 'em
> says anything about doing it any other way. what am I overlooking
> in my ignorance?
bridged is appropriate if you want t
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