On Jul 19, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Always Learning wrote:
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> On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 11:10 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
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>> On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote:
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>>> 4. Lack of knowledge about the replacement.
>
>> Well .. all of that may be true and systemd may be the devil ... but we
On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 11:10 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote:
> > 4. Lack of knowledge about the replacement.
> Well .. all of that may be true and systemd may be the devil ... but we
> would still have it as CentOS-7 rebuilds RHEL-7 sources. Debatin
On 07/19/2014 11:10 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote:
>> On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
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>>> It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd
>>> who want back the old ways of doing things.
>> These are
On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
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>> It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd
>> who want back the old ways of doing things.
> These are the causes:-
>
> 1. Familiarity with something that
On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Always Learning wrote:
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> On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
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>> It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd
>> who want back the old ways of doing things.
>
> These are the causes:-
>
> 1. Familiarity with
On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
> It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd
> who want back the old ways of doing things.
These are the causes:-
1. Familiarity with something that works and can be modified without
much effort- very imp
On 19.7.2014 1:23, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2014-07-18, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> But it does force people who should be focusing on improving an
>> application to instead spend their time reconfiguring the startup
>> configuration for a distribution just to keep it working the same way.
> This seems
On 2014-07-18, Les Mikesell wrote:
> But it does force people who should be focusing on improving an
> application to instead spend their time reconfiguring the startup
> configuration for a distribution just to keep it working the same way.
This seems (again) to be moving into a debate on "why s
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mark Tinberg wrote:
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> So simple things are trivial, more complicated things are possible and the
> options are there in the config file if you want to use them but you aren’t
> forced to.
But it does force people who should be focusing on improving an
applicat
On Jul 18, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> In principle this should simplify the algorithms involved.
> But it seems to me that the way in which it has been implemented
> has in fact increased the complication rather than the reverse.
>From my perspective this is a simplified imple
Mark Tinberg wrote:
>>> But the only practical advantage of systemd that I've seen touted
>>> is that it speeds up boot-time.
>>> Even if this were true it does not seem to me worth worrying about,
> If the only practical advantage of systemd that you have seen touted has
> been boot time efficie
On 7/17/2014 11:39, Keith Keller wrote:
> (Not suggesting that systemd actually solves this issue, only
> that boot time is important in some use cases.)
Well, *something* is making EL7 boot a lot faster than EL6. My EL6 test
VM takes almost twice as long to boot to a console login (runlevel 3)
On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Keith Keller
wrote:
> On 2014-07-17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>
>> But the only practical advantage of systemd that I've seen touted
>> is that it speeds up boot-time.
>> Even if this were true it does not seem to me worth worrying about,
>
> It is if you manage a
On 2014-07-17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
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> But the only practical advantage of systemd that I've seen touted
> is that it speeds up boot-time.
> Even if this were true it does not seem to me worth worrying about,
It is if you manage a large cluster of virtual containers which
dynamically boot or sh
I haven't had any problems with systemd.
However, I didn't have any problems with sysVinit over many years.
But the only practical advantage of systemd that I've seen touted
is that it speeds up boot-time.
Even if this were true it does not seem to me worth worrying about,
as - in my case at least
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