Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-10-14 Thread Greg Lindahl
Now that we just had another mailing list question about running old versions of CentOS, I see that my suggested FAQ addition wasn't added. Did I make my suggestion in the wrong place? What should I do next? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http:

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-29 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > I read the thread before replying, and didn't see anyone mention that, if > one needs an open source stay-on-a-point-release setup, one should > investigate Scientific Linux, which does do this. Yes, you can stay on 5.4 > and get only the secu

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On 09/29/2014 04:15 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: William Woods writes: 5.4 ? really???. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. Repeating it three times doesn't make an arrogant statement more true. There are corporate environments that cannot upgrade for vario

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-29 Thread James Hogarth
On 29 Sep 2014 07:47, "John R Pierce" wrote: > > On 9/28/2014 11:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: >> >> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 >> >> Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. > > > per https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1306.htm the fix for 7187 a

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-29 Thread lhecking
William Woods writes: > 5.4 ? really???. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. Repeating it three times doesn't make an arrogant statement more true. There are corporate environments that cannot upgrade for various reasons. Also, the history and performance of e.g autofs on RHE

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-29 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/29/2014 01:46 AM, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/28/2014 11:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: >> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 >> >> Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. > > per https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1306.htm the fix for 7187 > and 71

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/28/2014 11:39 PM, James Hogarth wrote: https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7186 Looks like we may find one more bash patch at least yet then. per https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1306.htm the fix for 7187 and 7186 is already included in the updated fix that was releas

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread James Hogarth
On 29 Sep 2014 07:37, "James Hogarth" wrote: > > > On 29 Sep 2014 05:37, "Frank Cox" wrote: > > > > Looks like the bash exploit tune may still be playing > > > > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-ineffective.aspx > > > > Well 7169 is already patched, 7

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread James Hogarth
On 29 Sep 2014 05:37, "Frank Cox" wrote: > > Looks like the bash exploit tune may still be playing > > http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-ineffective.aspx > Well 7169 is already patched, 7186 isn't in the RH database so it would appear they don't consid

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Frank Cox
Looks like the bash exploit tune may still be playing http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-ineffective.aspx -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentO

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Vojin Urosevic wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: >> >> >> > A third source is companies with homegrown code deployed on CentOS >> > servers and poor-quality test suites. They t

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Vojin Urosevic
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > >> > > A third source is companies with homegrown code deployed on CentOS > > servers and poor-quality test suites. They tend to be in the "omg > > never change anything unless forced a

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: >> > A third source is companies with homegrown code deployed on CentOS > servers and poor-quality test suites. They tend to be in the "omg > never change anything unless forced at gunpoint!" camp. It's an > unfortunate situation, and it can co

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Devin Reade
> On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:22, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > > Not sure that this goes in the FAQ, though! No. If people have a good reason for doing it, they will generally know that reason. If the don't know one, they probably have no real need for staying at the earlier release. ___

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 01:32:38PM +0200, Leon Fauster wrote: > It would be great to get some feedback what such cases > are, that let people stay on older releases? Upstream can change the kernel module API quite violently in minor releases, which means that hardware products that have associ

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-28 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 28.09.2014 um 02:22 schrieb Greg Lindahl : > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 02:12:27AM +0200, Leon Fauster wrote: >> Am 27.09.2014 um 23:53 schrieb Greg Lindahl : >>> If you really need to run an old minor version, you should consider >>> paying for the upstream Enterprise Linux. They keep all the old

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 02:12:27AM +0200, Leon Fauster wrote: > Am 27.09.2014 um 23:53 schrieb Greg Lindahl : > > If you really need to run an old minor version, you should consider > > paying for the upstream Enterprise Linux. They keep all the old minor > > versions up-to-date with regard to secu

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 27.09.2014 um 23:53 schrieb Greg Lindahl : > If you really need to run an old minor version, you should consider > paying for the upstream Enterprise Linux. They keep all the old minor > versions up-to-date with regard to security fixes. CentOS does not. https://access.redhat.com/support/policy

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/27/2014 2:53 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: A. No. CentOS only updates the most recent of each of the major versions. For example, for CentOS 5, if the most recent minor version is 5.10, then that is the only version that is receiving security updates. CentOS 5.4 is frozen and never gets any updat

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 08:28:48AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 09/26/2014 06:23 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > > Do we have a FAQ we can point people to that explains this? It's not > > obvious, and we need to educate anyone who shows up here not knowing > > the insecure nature of point releases

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:10:54AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:28:48 -0500 > Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > How is this: > > > > http://bit.ly/1rAbtoT > > Two typos: > > Para 5: $relesever s/b $releasever > > Para 9: componet s/b component (3x) > > Outside of the typos, it lo

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:28:48 -0500 Johnny Hughes wrote: > How is this: > > http://bit.ly/1rAbtoT Two typos: Para 5: $relesever s/b $releasever Para 9: componet s/b component (3x) Outside of the typos, it looks great to me! -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatr

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread William Woods
My mistake then, apologies. On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Sat, 2014-09-27 at 09:31 -0500, William Woods wrote: > >> 5.4 ? really…. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. > > Not me. I'm on 5.10 and 6.5. > > The lady who enquired was happily using C

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2014-09-27 at 09:31 -0500, William Woods wrote: > 5.4 ? really…. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. Not me. I'm on 5.10 and 6.5. The lady who enquired was happily using C 5.4 -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mai

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread William Woods
5.4 ? REally 5.4…. You have lots of other issues to be concerned with. On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 09/26/2014 06:23 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 01:29:44AM +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote: >>> 2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : >> > Sca

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread William Woods
5.4 ? really…. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 09/26/2014 06:23 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 01:29:44AM +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote: >>> 2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : >> > Scary s

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread William Woods
5.4 ? really…. 5.4 ? you have a lot of other issues to worry about. On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 09/26/2014 06:23 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 01:29:44AM +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote: >>> 2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : >> > Scary s

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Always Learning
> >> 2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : > > > >>> Never mind the "scary screen" why are you deliberately using an insecure > >>> and out-of-date 5.4 version of Centos ? On 09/26/2014 06:23 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > > Do we have a FAQ we can point people to that explains this? It's not

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-27 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/26/2014 06:23 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 01:29:44AM +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote: >> 2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : > Scary screenie at: http://i.imgur.com/yR7sBjV.png >>> >>> Never mind the "scary screen" why are you deliberately using an insecure >>>

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Peter
On 09/27/2014 10:29 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: > uh. is this system even patched for heartbleed? EL5 was never vulnerable to heartbleed to begin with, that said, your point is still valid as to other vulnerabilities. Peter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 01:29:44AM +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : > > > Scary screenie at: http://i.imgur.com/yR7sBjV.png > > > > Never mind the "scary screen" why are you deliberately using an insecure > > and out-of-date 5.4 version of Centos ? Do we

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Eero Volotinen
2014-09-27 0:42 GMT+03:00 Always Learning : > > On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 15:02 -0500, Jessica Blank wrote: > > > > Scary screenie at: http://i.imgur.com/yR7sBjV.png > > Never mind the "scary screen" why are you deliberately using an insecure > and out-of-date 5.4 version of Centos ? > > Common sense

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 15:02 -0500, Jessica Blank wrote: > Scary screenie at: http://i.imgur.com/yR7sBjV.png Never mind the "scary screen" why are you deliberately using an insecure and out-of-date 5.4 version of Centos ? Common sense says that if you are genuinely interested in security then y

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > Jessica Blank wrote: >> Good afternoon! >> >> After applying the latest bash RPM listed at >> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020594.html >> : >> The fixed RPM (bash-3.2-33.el5_10.4.x86_64.rpm) DOES work just fine on >> Ce

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread m . roth
Jessica Blank wrote: > Good afternoon! > > After applying the latest bash RPM listed at > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020594.html > : > The fixed RPM (bash-3.2-33.el5_10.4.x86_64.rpm) DOES work just fine on > CentOS 5.10. However, it DOES NOT work on CentOS 5.4.

Re: [CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Jessica Blank
Never mind; false alarm. Apparently, we both had a previous 'echo' file sitting around from before. Best, Jessica On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Jessica Blank wrote: Good afternoon! After applying the latest bash RPM listed at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020594.ht

[CentOS] URGENT! Shellshock fix DOES NOT fix the bug on CentOS 5.4

2014-09-26 Thread Jessica Blank
Good afternoon! After applying the latest bash RPM listed at http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020594.html : The fixed RPM (bash-3.2-33.el5_10.4.x86_64.rpm) DOES work just fine on CentOS 5.10. However, it DOES NOT work on CentOS 5.4. That is, bash runs fine, but