Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:48 PM -0400 Mailing Lists mailingl...@theflux.net wrote: http://www.openspf.org/Introduction - SPF FTW DKIM is another possibility. Blizzard (the game company) signs some (not all) of its mail with DKIM, and I use that to spot obvious account-theft scams.

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Scott Silva
on 9/1/2011 10:39 AM Kenneth Porter spake the following: --On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:48 PM -0400 Mailing Lists mailingl...@theflux.net wrote: http://www.openspf.org/Introduction - SPF FTW DKIM is another possibility. Blizzard (the game company) signs some (not all) of its mail with

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:43 PM -0700 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: I get TONS of spam with legitimate DKIM signatures... DKIM and SPF do not stop you from getting spam. Their purpose is to keep you from getting joe-jobbed, by declaring to the world which mail really came

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:43 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: I get TONS of spam with legitimate DKIM signatures... How is that possible ? Paul. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Scott Silva
on 9/1/2011 1:14 PM Kenneth Porter spake the following: On Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:43 PM -0700 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: I get TONS of spam with legitimate DKIM signatures... DKIM and SPF do not stop you from getting spam. Their purpose is to keep you from getting

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011, Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:43 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: I get TONS of spam with legitimate DKIM signatures... How is that possible ? The spam comes from Yahoo! or perhaps Google groups? Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell;

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-09-01 Thread Ned Slider
On 01/09/11 22:10, Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:43 -0700, Scott Silva wrote: I get TONS of spam with legitimate DKIM signatures... How is that possible ? Because spammers know how to sign their email with DKIM signatures too, same as spammers can set an SPF record in

[CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread m . roth
Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other than that, is there a good reason why a mailserver would not be configured

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Miller
On 08/31/2011 01:16 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other than that, is there a

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Stephen Harris
Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other than that, is there a good reason why a mailserver would not be

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread m . roth
Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other than that, is there a good reason why a

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Mailing Lists
Spam filter that'll authorize the sending before receiving? Just a thought to stop the hundreds of emails... On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email,

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Miller
On 08/31/2011 01:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread m . roth
Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Miller
On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Miller
On 08/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 04:27:00PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Anyway, the SMTP server should send the delivery failure to the envelope address, which may be different to both the From and Reply-To addresses. That would be lovely. Unfortunately, a high percentage

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 8/31/2011 4:37 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You're saying it uses the envelope, not if exists Reply-To, else From? The problem I have with that is that a few of them have returned the email, with full headers, and I see the *only* reference to my

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Mailing Lists
http://www.openspf.org/Introduction - SPF FTW On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 04:27:00PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Anyway, the SMTP server should send the delivery failure to the envelope

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Miller
On 08/31/2011 01:48 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 8/31/2011 4:37 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You're saying it uses the envelope, not if exists Reply-To, else From? The problem I have with that is that a few of them have returned the email, with full

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread m . roth
Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Miller
On 08/31/2011 01:57 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:27 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 8/31/2011 4:50 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:48 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 8/31/2011 4:37 PM, Josh Miller wrote: On 08/31/2011 01:33 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You're saying it uses the envelope, not if exists Reply-To, else From? The problem I have with that is that a few of

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:16 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other than that,

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:33 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You're saying it uses the envelope, not if exists Reply-To, else From? The problem I have with that is that a few of them have returned the email, with full headers, and I see the *only* reference to my email address is in the

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 13:50 -0700, Josh Miller wrote: That is not true as the remote server will present the envelope header to your mail server upon connection. Surely the FROM is ? Paul ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] dealing with spoofing

2011-08-31 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Here's a thought I just thunk, folks: some scum, apparently in eastern Europe, has harvested my email, and is using it in the Reply-To: in its spamming efforts. Now, I realize that some mails go out from noreply, but other than that, is there a good