Well just a note that sometimes CPU and other parts overload can cause a
similar effect while newer software might offer better stability based
on some sensors in the MB.
All The Bests,
Eliezer
On 11/25/2013 07:45 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> CentOS 6.4 died on me again.
> Didn't leave any tra
On 1/23/2014 6:41 PM, Peter wrote:
> On 01/24/2014 03:47 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Peter wrote:
>>
>>> it has four molex four pin connectors any one of which should be
>>> suitable for your CD drive, and one floppy connector which should work
>>> for your floppy drive jus
On 01/24/2014 03:47 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Peter wrote:
>
>> it has four molex four pin connectors any one of which should be
>> suitable for your CD drive, and one floppy connector which should work
>> for your floppy drive just fine.
>
> I needed the floppy connector
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Peter wrote:
> On 01/23/2014 10:59 PM, Peter wrote:
>> On 01/23/2014 07:15 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> That said, it has fewer connectors.
>>> I had to leave off my CD and floppy drives.
>>
>> I have yet to see a power supply that doesn't have connectors for these,
I just
On 01/23/2014 10:59 PM, Peter wrote:
> On 01/23/2014 07:15 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> That said, it has fewer connectors.
>> I had to leave off my CD and floppy drives.
>
> I have yet to see a power supply that doesn't have connectors for these,
> but you can get adapters and/or splitters for
On 01/23/2014 07:15 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> That said, it has fewer connectors.
> I had to leave off my CD and floppy drives.
I have yet to see a power supply that doesn't have connectors for these,
but you can get adapters and/or splitters for that if need be.
Peter
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Well a RX3xx is a very good one.
Hope you will have luck with it!
If you have questions feel free to post them!
CD and floppy are old and indeed needed in many cases but I have
machines which doesn't have these at all in to the favor of USB :\
Eliezer
On 22/01/14 20:15, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
I thought it had already been determined this was not CentOS related?
http://www.diy-computer-repair.com/
http://www.thepcmanwebsite.com/computer_repair.shtml
et al
Or, answer a couple questions per month in your area of expertise and
earn free membership to ask questions in other topic areas:
e
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
> What PSU is it the new one?
The new one is still installed.
Installing it was mechanically difficult.
I won't put the other one back without cause.
Cause would be expecting it to work.
The new one is a PSU RAIDMAX | RX-380K 380W RT.
All all voltages
On 22/01/14 03:00, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> 'Twasn't the PSU.
> I replaced it and got the same symptoms.
>
> Pardon me. I need to go kill something.
Hey Michael,
Don't run to kill something..
it will not help but it will...
There are issues related to hardware which not everyone has the tools t
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
> 'Twasn't the PSU.
> I replaced it and got the same symptoms.
>
I still have a beige box here...
> Pardon me. I need to go kill something.
>
> --
> Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu
> "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamenta
'Twasn't the PSU.
I replaced it and got the same symptoms.
Pardon me. I need to go kill something.
--
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"SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical
reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young
goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- Joh
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 1/15/2014 1:43 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> Preparatory to removing the PSU, I've been disconnecting it.
>> Those Molex things are tough.
>> So far, the hardest one I've removed is the 20-pin connector from the MB.
>> It took me days.
>> The 4-pin c
On 16/01/14 00:26, John R Pierce wrote:
> there's a tab you depress, then those connectors should come out with
> just a few pounds of force.
Unless it was overheated or the human do not have enough force in his
hand or tools to pull it out.
Eliezer
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On 1/15/2014 1:43 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Preparatory to removing the PSU, I've been disconnecting it.
> Those Molex things are tough.
> So far, the hardest one I've removed is the 20-pin connector from the MB.
> It took me days.
> The 4-pin connector on the MB is proving to be harder.
> The
Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Preparatory to removing the PSU, I've been disconnecting it.
> Those Molex things are tough.
> So far, the hardest one I've removed is the 20-pin connector from the MB.
> It took me days.
> The 4-pin connector on the MB is proving to be harder.
> The receptacle seems to be
Preparatory to removing the PSU, I've been disconnecting it.
Those Molex things are tough.
So far, the hardest one I've removed is the 20-pin connector from the MB.
It took me days.
The 4-pin connector on the MB is proving to be harder.
The receptacle seems to be more firmly attached to the plug th
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
> > I wonder if its time to start considering a social list again; very
> > little of the conversation in this thread is really CentOS specific now.
>
+1
Maybe
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> I wonder if its time to start considering a social list again; very
> little of the conversation in this thread is really CentOS specific now.
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I noticed the the grub stanza for my F14 contains the line
>
On 12/16/2013 08:28 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> btw, here's the technical product manual for your mainboard
>> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15207/eng/D865GBF_D865GLC_ProductGuide02_English.pdf
>
> That is where I got the 20-pin ATX stuff.
> It just occured to me that I might want
> geometric
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 10:03 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 12/16/2013 8:56 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> From this, I infer that 20-pin ATX's are sufficiently standardized
that I do not need to be model- or brand-specific.
>> well, ATX 1.x stuff had mor
On 16 December 2013 @16:53 zulu, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Darr247 wrote:
>
>> I see 2 components in ps4.jpg that look like they've ruptured.
>>
>> One in the mid/foreground with the yellow hot glue on it (the shorter
> The one with the visible VENT and 105 printing?
No. The s
At 10:27 AM 12/16/2013, you wrote:
>On 12/16/2013 10:03 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
> > On 12/16/2013 8:56 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >> >>From this, I infer that 20-pin ATX's are sufficiently standardized
> >> >that I do not need to be model- or brand-specific.
> > well, ATX 1.x stuff had more 5V
On 12/16/2013 10:03 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 8:56 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> >>From this, I infer that 20-pin ATX's are sufficiently standardized
>> >that I do not need to be model- or brand-specific.
> well, ATX 1.x stuff had more 5V and less 12V, while ATX 2.x boosts the
> 12V
On 12/16/2013 8:56 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >From this, I infer that 20-pin ATX's are sufficiently standardized
> that I do not need to be model- or brand-specific.
well, ATX 1.x stuff had more 5V and less 12V, while ATX 2.x boosts the
12V output capacity and has less 5V... I'm pretty sur
On 12/16/2013 09:53, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> The one with the visible VENT and 105 printing?
"Vent" just calls out that there is a vent on the top of the cap, which
it obvious without the label. It's the scoring in the metal, which
allows the top of the cap to break open in a controlled way
On 12/15/2013 16:49, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> Looks like I'll need to see whether I still have my multimeter.
That's not likely to tell you much.
About the only thing I'd trust a typical DMM to tell me about a PSU is
whether its rails are within voltage spec. You must do that test under
loa
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Warren Young wrote:
> On 12/13/2013 16:35, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> I note the absence of PAE for CentOS.
>> I've read that PAE can be important.
>
> Only if you're trying to address more than 4 GB of RAM on a 32-bit
> system. Even then, most software doesn't t
On 12/15/2013 16:21, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> the yellow stuff looks suspicious.
It's a kind of strain relief. Without that flexible glue, dropping the
computer could snap those caps off at their base. Since this is the
sort of thing that occasionally happens to computers in shipping,
comp
On 12/13/2013 16:35, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I note the absence of PAE for CentOS.
> I've read that PAE can be important.
Only if you're trying to address more than 4 GB of RAM on a 32-bit
system. Even then, most software doesn't take advantage of it.
PAE is an old hack Intel invented in the
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> me, if I had any reason to suspect a power supply, I would just get a
> new one, basic PC power supplies in reasonable wattage ratings are quite
> cheap. examples:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152032
> http://www.newegg.co
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, Darr247 wrote:
> I see 2 components in ps4.jpg that look like they've ruptured.
>
> One in the mid/foreground with the yellow hot glue on it (the shorter
The one with the visible VENT and 105 printing?
> one, between the inductor and the caps), and one hiding under the
> har
I see 2 components in ps4.jpg that look like they've ruptured.
One in the mid/foreground with the yellow hot glue on it (the shorter
one, between the inductor and the caps), and one hiding under the
harness that exits the supply... to the upper-right of the green cap,
near the PS housing.
_
On 12/16/2013 12:49 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> Looks like I'll need to see whether I still have my multimeter.
Not sure what you're planning to find on your multimeter, bad caps are
hard to detect. The only real way I know of to properly test if a
problem is originating from a PSU is to swa
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Peter wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 12:21 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> I took more pictures and added
>> web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/computer/ps[45].jpg to my website.
>
> #4 gives permission denied.
Fixed now.
Don't know why it was the only one without read permission.
Copie
On 12/16/2013 12:21 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Peter wrote:
>
>> On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>>> On 12/13/2013 16:20, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Any ideas on how to proceed?
>>>
>>> There may be a final screw under one of the stickers.
>>
>> Yes, it looks
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Peter wrote:
> On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> On 12/13/2013 16:20, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> Any ideas on how to proceed?
>>
>> There may be a final screw under one of the stickers.
>
> Yes, it looks to me like there should be a screw under the QC Pass
> stic
On 12/13/2013 7:21 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> >Rather than rip the PSU open (and hope you don't get zapped good by a
>> >charged capacitor...) just hook a power supply tester to it. Or look
>> >online for instructions on testing it with a multimeter (more tedious than
>> >the PSU tester).
> I'
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, SilverTip257 wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Michael Hennebry <
> henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
>
>> I've tried to open the power supply to look for capacitor guts and such.
>>
>
> If there was a problem with the PSU, you would experience it in your F14
> in
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> I've tried to open the power supply to look for capacitor guts and such.
>
If there was a problem with the PSU, you would experience it in your F14
install you spoke of.
> I've unscrewed it from the cas
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Peter wrote:
> On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> On 12/13/2013 16:20, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> Any ideas on how to proceed?
>>
>> There may be a final screw under one of the stickers.
>
> Yes, it looks to me like there should be a screw under the QC Pass
> stic
On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> On 12/13/2013 16:20, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> Any ideas on how to proceed?
>
> There may be a final screw under one of the stickers.
Yes, it looks to me like there should be a screw under the QC Pass
sticker, right under the round circle.
Peter
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On 12/13/2013 16:20, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Any ideas on how to proceed?
There may be a final screw under one of the stickers.
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I noticed the the grub stanza for my F14 contains the line
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.14-106.fc14.i686.PAE ...
For CentOS, I have
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.i686 ...
I note the absence of PAE for CentOS.
I've read that PAE can be important.
Could it be the reason that an F14 boot lasts so
I've tried to open the power supply to look for capacitor guts and such.
I've unscrewed it from the case and removed the
screws that seemed sufficient for separation.
The stumbling block seems to be under the "QC PASS"
sticker near the rainbow of wires coming out.
I've gotten the edge of a box cutt
On 12/08/2013 03:31 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> You mean it was rotting just sitting on a shelf?
Perhaps surprisingly, systems of that age *can* fairly literally rot.
There were a number of Taiwanese electrolytic capacitor manufacturers
that "borrowed" a partial recipe from a Japanese company:
On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/8/2013 8:27 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
>>
geez, its a 10 year old pentium-4, and not even a late p4, a middle aged
32bit-only one put it out of its misery, its been living on
borrowed
On 12/8/2013 8:27 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
>
>> >geez, its a 10 year old pentium-4, and not even a late p4, a middle aged
>> >32bit-only one put it out of its misery, its been living on
>> >borrowed time for the last 5 years.
> You mean since it w
On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
>
>> geez, its a 10 year old pentium-4, and not even a late p4, a middle aged
>> 32bit-only one put it out of its misery, its been living on
>> borrowed time for the last 5 years.
>
> You mean since it wa
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
>
> Even when I have income,
> I get annoyed about little mysteries that make things just not work.
> I do not have any income,
> so I also get annoyed at these little expenses that pop up occasionaly.
> Apparently just to annoy me.
You are
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> geez, its a 10 year old pentium-4, and not even a late p4, a middle aged
> 32bit-only one put it out of its misery, its been living on
> borrowed time for the last 5 years.
You mean since it was two?
Even when I have income,
I get annoyed about li
On 12/06/2013 06:57 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I suspect the pincushiony thing between the video card and the big
> black Intel fan of being the heat sink for the CPU, but I do not know.
>
That case looks very dusty and 60C for an Intel CPU tells us that it is
most likely overheating.
The big
On 12/7/2013 3:01 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 00:58 -0500, Darr247 wrote:
>> >On 07 December 2013 @02:57 zulu, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> > >
>> >
>> >The CPU heat sink is under the fan pointing down towards the motherboard.
>> >You lift those 2 levers to release it, and the
On Sat, 2013-12-07 at 00:58 -0500, Darr247 wrote:
> On 07 December 2013 @02:57 zulu, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >
>
> The CPU heat sink is under the fan pointing down towards the motherboard.
> You lift those 2 levers to release it, and there's likely another lever
> under it all locking the CPU i
On 12/6/2013 7:02 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> If I remove the right screws, I think that moving it farther into
> the case would allow it to be removed.
> For that, I'd want it on its side so that it didn't fall on something.
nearly all PC power supplies are standard ATX/EPS format. remove sid
On 12/6/2013 11:47 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
> The TPM can be an issue but once you install the OS(LINUX) on DISK(maybe
> on another machine) it should fly by default.
> What is the meaning of "Trusted" by HP\COMPAQ? I do not know yet.
>
> From what I understand a Refurbished means "Used and wa
On 12/6/2013 11:09 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I noticed the TPM 1.2 .
> Am I going have to start dealing with the "trusted"
> computing crap when I get another computer?
TPM is totally optional to use.
it can be used so your system can establish a chain of trust with a
server or network or wh
Hey Michael,
The TPM can be an issue but once you install the OS(LINUX) on DISK(maybe
on another machine) it should fly by default.
What is the meaning of "Trusted" by HP\COMPAQ? I do not know yet.
From what I understand a Refurbished means "Used and was used in a
company\office the last time
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
> What Refurbished means?
newegg:
"Refurbished" products have been tested to ensure compliance with original
manufacturer specifications, and MAY include a limited manufacturer warranty -
see the item's product page for details."
> The hardware by it
What Refurbished means?
The hardware by itself looks nice but it might be a noisy machine.
HP support only windows Vista for this machine and I do not know what
bios and CHIPS it was built upon yet.
If it has the parts that this review claims:
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-compaq-business-
On 07 December 2013 @02:57 zulu, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I do not remember which is the IDE and which is the new SATA.
The SATA drive has the thin red cable connecting it to the motherboard.
> I suspect the pincushiony thing between the video card and the big
> black Intel fan of being the hea
On Fri, 6 Dec 2013, Warren Young wrote:
> On 12/6/2013 16:34, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> The power supply is a sealed unit,
>
> I think you'll find that once you unscrew it from the case, you'll
> expose another set of screws that will let you remove the power supply's
> lid. The odd hole in the
I'd thought I'd sent this already.
Apparently the last crap out was before I'd hit send.
BTW the last few crap outs have been followed
with processor area temps up to 60 C.
I suspect that my jpg's are too big to go through as attachments,
so I've put them on my web site:
http://web.cs.ndsu.nodak.
On 12/6/2013 18:00, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/6/2013 4:39 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> On 12/6/2013 16:34, Michael Hennebry wrote:
There is a place for a front fan, but no fan there.
>> It's common for cheap PC cases to have places for fans that the final PC
>> manufacturer chooses not to pop
On 12/6/2013 4:39 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> On 12/6/2013 16:34, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> >There is a place for a front fan, but no fan there.
> It's common for cheap PC cases to have places for fans that the final PC
> manufacturer chooses not to populate.
its pretty common on high end cases too
On 12/6/2013 16:34, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> There is a place for a front fan, but no fan there.
It's common for cheap PC cases to have places for fans that the final PC
manufacturer chooses not to populate.
If you decide to put a fan there, be sure to orient it so it blows "in
line" with the
I've got a side of the case off.
All the fans that are there are turning.
There is a place for a front fan, but no fan there.
Unless someone stole a fan, that is not new.
The plastic front of the case would have pretty much blocked it.
No obvious leakage from anything.
The power supply is a sealed
On 2013-12-05 2:51 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> I wasn't planning to look for 99.9% pure isopropyl alcohol.
I buy 99% isopropyl at Meijer Thrifty Acres (grocery store chain here in
the midwest).
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e273/Darr247/Electronics/198-ProofIsopropyl.jpg
I think that bottl
Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Michael Hennebry
> wrote:
>>
>>> He has a 3.2 Ghz CPU which is much more then this 3800 but the only
>>> thing that the 3800+ is good is that it has 2 cores but still same low
>>> share ram ( I had one of these in the past).
>>
>> I'm consideri
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
>
>> He has a 3.2 Ghz CPU which is much more then this 3800 but the only
>> thing that the 3800+ is good is that it has 2 cores but still same low
>> share ram ( I had one of these in the past).
>
> I'm considering the beast listed here, espe
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Michael Hennebry
> wrote:
>> On the other, if it's something else,
>> my diagnostic skills are clearly not up to the task.
>
> Sounds like a job for DTrace
Looks interesting and useful,
but I have no clue how I would
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> But in general, I always suspect power supplies first for mysterious crashes.
+1 power supplies with bad caps.
Two weeks ago I had one 2007 Antec EPS12V PS fail on me. Upon
inspection, bad caps.. (2 of them)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capa
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
> On the other, if it's something else,
> my diagnostic skills are clearly not up to the task.
Sounds like a job for DTrace
http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=jseJ56fUjJgC&printsec=frontcover
DTrace Tutorial for Oracle Linux 6:
http://do
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
> He has a 3.2 Ghz CPU which is much more then this 3800 but the only
> thing that the 3800+ is good is that it has 2 cores but still same low
> share ram ( I had one of these in the past).
I'm considering the beast listed here, especially if my current
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Warren Young wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Michael Hennebry
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Warren Young wrote:
>>
>>> At $11 for a couple of
>>> tiny bottles, both of which you have to use together, it's another 2-3x
>>> more expensive than tape head cleaner.
>>
>>
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 7:50 PM, Warren Young wrote:
>> You questioned someone else's DMM in another post,
>
> actually, the other post didn't say how he measured the voltage, I was
> assuming via the motherboard monitoring circuits ('lmsensors' or
> whatever), whic
On 12/4/2013 8:00 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> As my measurement data in the post I just sent hints, there are serious
> practical problems -- aside from the direct economic ones -- that restrict
> the utility of such high-purity alcohols. There's probably no point using it
> outside a cleanroom.
My money's still on bulging and 50% or so under (if not ruptured and 99%
below) capacitance electrolytics.
If not on the motherboard itself, then in the power supply.
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On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Michael Hennebry
wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Warren Young wrote:
>
>> At $11 for a couple of
>> tiny bottles, both of which you have to use together, it's another 2-3x
>> more expensive than tape head cleaner.
>
> For me, the bottom line is how much it will cost
>
On 12/4/2013 7:50 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> You questioned someone else's DMM in another post,
actually, the other post didn't say how he measured the voltage, I was
assuming via the motherboard monitoring circuits ('lmsensors' or
whatever), which are notoriously inaccurate ...
--
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On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:49 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 10:44 AM, Warren Young wrote:
>> Bottom line: 70% is too impure for this task.
>
> Huh?!? I've cleaned numerous CPU-heatsink surfaces with 70% isopropyl,
> never had any problem….
I'm not saying it's impossible. An expert can am
Hey there,
He has a 3.2 Ghz CPU which is much more then this 3800 but the only
thing that the 3800+ is good is that it has 2 cores but still same low
share ram ( I had one of these in the past).
Eliezer
On 28/11/13 12:29, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 11/26/2013 3:58 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>
On 12/4/2013 10:44 AM, Warren Young wrote:
> Bottom line: 70% is too impure for this task.
Huh?!? I've cleaned numerous CPU-heatsink surfaces with 70% isopropyl,
never had any problem heck, I clean optical lenses with it, in the
form of those eyeglass wipes you buy by the crate at Costco.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 11:25 AM, Peter wrote:
>> On 12/05/2013 06:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
My plan involved a wire-wrap wire "bracelet" and a megohm resistor.
Connecting the other end to a bare metal part of the case is sufficient?
I don't need
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Warren Young wrote:
> On 12/3/2013 22:09, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> They mention "high-purity isopropyl alcohol".
>> The highest purity I've ever seen is 70%.
> Bottom line: 70% is too impure for this task.
>
> I hesitate to use even 90% for this. The last time I used 90% i
On 12/4/2013 11:25 AM, Peter wrote:
> On 12/05/2013 06:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> >My plan involved a wire-wrap wire "bracelet" and a megohm resistor.
>> >Connecting the other end to a bare metal part of the case is sufficient?
>> >I don't need an actual ground?
> No you need an actual groun
On 12/05/2013 06:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> My plan involved a wire-wrap wire "bracelet" and a megohm resistor.
> Connecting the other end to a bare metal part of the case is sufficient?
> I don't need an actual ground?
No you need an actual ground. If the case is left plugged in this would
On 12/4/2013 10:22 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
>
>> >On 12/4/2013 9:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> >>Once upon a time, the CPU area temperature was 80 C,
>>> >>which got a "BING! BING! BING!" from m.roth.
>>> >>
>>> >>Also, the last time checked I not
On 12/3/2013 22:09, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Patrick Lists wrote:
>
> They mention "high-purity isopropyl alcohol".
> The highest purity I've ever seen is 70%.
The vast majority of the impurity in commercial grade alcohol is water.
Capillary action sucks the fluid into all
Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
>
>> On 12/4/2013 9:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>>> Once upon a time, the CPU area temperature was 80 C,
>>> which got a "BING! BING! BING!" from m.roth.
>>>
>>> Also, the last time checked I noticed that 5v was 5.263, more than
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/4/2013 9:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> Once upon a time, the CPU area temperature was 80 C,
>> which got a "BING! BING! BING!" from m.roth.
>>
>> Also, the last time checked I noticed that 5v was 5.263, more than 3% error.
>
> I'd only believe
On 12/4/2013 9:42 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Once upon a time, the CPU area temperature was 80 C,
> which got a "BING! BING! BING!" from m.roth.
>
> Also, the last time checked I noticed that 5v was 5.263, more than 3% error.
I'd only believe that if you double checked it with a known accurate
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Steve Clark wrote:
> Also did you check the Health Status in the BIOS, was the temperature in
> spec with what the chip spec is. You can run cpuburn (program) and see if
> running the processor full out causes it to shutdown.
Once upon a time, the CPU area temperature was 80 C
Also did you check the Health Status in the BIOS, was the temperature in
spec with what the chip spec is. You can run cpuburn (program) and see if
running the processor full out causes it to shutdown.
On 11/28/2013 02:17 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
>
On 12/3/2013 9:09 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> There are a lot of instructions here:
>> >http://www.arcticsilver.com/intel_application_method.html#
> They mention "high-purity isopropyl alcohol".
> The highest purity I've ever seen is 70%.
isopropyl commonly comes in 70% ('rubbing alcohol') and
Michael:
It will be easier and cheaper to by a static grounding strap
that you wear on your wrist and connect to a conducting part
of the metal cabnet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjustable-Anti-Static-ESD-Wrist-Strap-Band-w-Grounding-/380695171205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a3335085#ht_34
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Patrick Lists wrote:
> There are a lot of instructions here:
> http://www.arcticsilver.com/intel_application_method.html#
They mention "high-purity isopropyl alcohol".
The highest purity I've ever seen is 70%.
Also, said instructions do recommend spreading some
thermal grease
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Michael Hennebry wrote:
>> I found my fans and am about to get some thermal
>> grease and a megohm resistor for static discharge.
>> Sometime today or tomorrow I will likely
>> open the case with fear and trepidation.
>> The sides and top of the case a
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:16 -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> >
> > > Michael Hennebry wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> >
> > >>> One thing I've never done, or thou
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:16 -0600, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
> > Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Nov 2013, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>
> >>> One thing I've never done, or thought of until now, was whether the
> >>> thermal grease between the CP
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