Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-16 Thread I.Piasecki
W dniu 14.03.2013 20:37, b.j. mcclure pisze: This may be slightly off topic on this thread but on all my workstations using the Nvidia kmod from elrepo, the update to xorg removed the symbolic link 'libglx.so in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia that points to nvidia's

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-16 Thread Ned Slider
On 14/03/13 19:37, b.j. mcclure wrote: This may be slightly off topic on this thread but on all my workstations using the Nvidia kmod from elrepo, the update to xorg removed the symbolic link 'libglx.so in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia that points to nvidia's libglx.so.304.64.

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Ned Slider
On 14/03/13 20:32, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Thanks, both of you, and good catch. Now I need to dig into what happened on *my* end: the elrepo.conf was dated last summer, and I had kmod-nvidia and nvidia-x11-drv

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Mark - as a general word of advise, next time you have an issue, rather than ranting because something isn't working as you expect and calling people stupid, perhaps you could try describing the problem you are

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/15/2013 08:32 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: As long as the distro requires the use of a repository that by policy excludes things that almost everyone needs we are pretty much forced to Les, calm down. Both CentOS and ELrepo are fine. The problem was caused by the OP's own manual

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote: On 03/15/2013 08:32 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: As long as the distro requires the use of a repository that by policy excludes things that almost everyone needs we are pretty much forced to Les, calm down. Both CentOS

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/15/2013 10:32 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Mark - as a general word of advise, next time you have an issue, rather than ranting because something isn't working as you expect and calling people stupid, perhaps you could try

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Mark - as a general word of advise, next time you have an issue, rather than ranting because something isn't working as you expect and calling people stupid, perhaps you could try describing the problem

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: Well, if you know what the goal of CentOS is, then ranting about something that is not in RHEL (and therefore also not in CentOS) is quite silly. If it is in RHEL, it is here .. if not, then it isn't I don't see that

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
On 15 Mar 2013, at 18:16, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: a) I called it a *moderate* rant - I wasn't spitting, screaming in ALL CAPS, or calling names (except, by implication, the other admin I work with who did this to me). Seems unfair to continue to blame them when the solution

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/15/2013 09:29 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Agreed, but those repositories don't have everything - by policy - and everything can't be coordinated or tested together. That was not the case in this instance, and lacking an example of such an instance, there's no reason for you to continue this

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote: Agreed, but those repositories don't have everything - by policy - and everything can't be coordinated or tested together. That was not the case in this instance, and lacking an example of such an instance, there's no

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 03/15/2013 09:29 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Agreed, but those repositories don't have everything - by policy - and everything can't be coordinated or tested together. That was not the case in this instance, and lacking an example of such an instance, there's no reason

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/15/2013 12:52 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Well, yes there is: it's a matter of security. We're supposed to only use certain repos, and no others, to guarantee, as much as we can, what we're getting, and that it won't conflict with anything else. Therefore, I got a dispensation from my

[CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. Now, my not-two-year-old workstation has an nvidia card, and I'd installed kmod-nvidia from elrepo. I figured I'd fix my problem by finishing

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. Now, my not-two-year-old workstation has an nvidia card, and I'd installed

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/14/2013 09:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. Now, my not-two-year-old workstation has an nvidia card, and I'd installed kmod-nvidia from

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 14.03.2013 15:17, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: On a related note, does anyone have a link to a howto build the NVidia proprietary driver on a kernel that's *not* running, so we could prebuild it before the reboot? I see there are options in the script, but no examples. No link, but while I

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Nux!
On 14.03.2013 14:17, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. Install and run nvidia-detect from Elrepo, it will tell you which packages you need to

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Sorry, clicked send too soon. Am 14.03.2013 15:37, schrieb Tilman Schmidt: Am 14.03.2013 15:17, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: On a related note, does anyone have a link to a howto build the NVidia proprietary driver on a kernel that's *not* running, so we could prebuild it before the reboot? I

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: On Mar 14, 2013, at 10:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. Now, my not-two-year-old workstation has an nvidia card, and I'd

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
Tilman Schmidt wrote: Sorry, clicked send too soon. Am 14.03.2013 15:37, schrieb Tilman Schmidt: Am 14.03.2013 15:17, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: On a related note, does anyone have a link to a howto build the NVidia proprietary driver on a kernel that's *not* running, so we could prebuild

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: a lot of us need the proprietary driver because we use two monitors, and *bleah* nouveau doesn't support twinview). mark Then you want to read this CentOS *FAQ*:

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote: On 03/14/2013 09:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. snip I try to upgrade kmod-nvidia from elrepo. Anyone got any good

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: a lot of us need the proprietary driver because we use two monitors, and *bleah* nouveau doesn't support twinview). Then you want to read this CentOS *FAQ*:

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Ned Slider
On 14/03/13 15:01, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Johnny Hughes wrote: On 03/14/2013 09:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. snip I try to upgrade

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
Ned Slider wrote: On 14/03/13 15:01, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Johnny Hughes wrote: On 03/14/2013 09:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end of the day, and I'm hosed - no X. snip I

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Ned Slider
On 14/03/13 16:34, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Ned Slider wrote: On 14/03/13 15:01, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Johnny Hughes wrote: On 03/14/2013 09:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So, another admin I work with rolled out most (but not kernel) updates to 6.4... but including xorg. I log out the end

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: On 14/03/13 16:34, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: yum install kmod-nvidia nvidia-x11-drv --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=elrepo Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, ps, security Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile *

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread b.j. mcclure
This may be slightly off topic on this thread but on all my workstations using the Nvidia kmod from elrepo, the update to xorg removed the symbolic link 'libglx.so in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia that points to nvidia's libglx.so.304.64. Restoring that symbolic link restored normal

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Thanks, both of you, and good catch. Now I need to dig into what happened on *my* end: the elrepo.conf was dated last summer, and I had kmod-nvidia and nvidia-x11-drv installed... but when you folks pointed me to it, it *only* had

Re: [CentOS] moderate rant un updates

2013-03-14 Thread m . roth
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Thanks, both of you, and good catch. Now I need to dig into what happened on *my* end: the elrepo.conf was dated last summer, and I had kmod-nvidia and nvidia-x11-drv installed... but when you folks pointed me to it,