On 07/27/2012 02:41 AM, Keith Keller wrote:
>> The install classes and groups are things that we build, locally, in
>> CentOS - in an attempt to match what is pushed downstream. If there are
>> issues, its certainly worth testing to see if its a centos induced issue
>> or not.
...
> What about the
On 07/26/2012 08:41 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2012-07-26, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> On 07/26/2012 06:59 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??
Not to mention it has insane dep
On 2012-07-26, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 07/26/2012 06:59 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
>>> Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
>>> NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??
>>>
>>> Not to mention it has insane deps like wifi firmware packages... not
>>> really if
On 07/26/2012 11:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> i do not install every day a Fedora/CentOS
> the is a minimal or whatever option
My apologies. I expected you to have done due diligence before posting
on the subject.
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On 07/26/2012 06:59 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
>> Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
>> NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??
>>
>> Not to mention it has insane deps like wifi firmware packages... not
>> really if all you want to do is configure eth0 from the
On 07/26/2012 06:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 26.07.2012 19:27, schrieb Karanbir Singh:
>> On 07/26/2012 04:42 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>>> My opinion after this experience is that it'd help for CentOS to
>>> include system-config-network-tui as part of the base install.
>>
>> Can you
On 2012-07-23, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
> NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??
>
> Not to mention it has insane deps like wifi firmware packages... not
> really if all you want to do is configure eth0 from the command
>
On 07/26/2012 04:42 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> My opinion after this experience is that it'd help for CentOS to
> include system-config-network-tui as part of the base install.
Can you be a bit more specific about what you mean by a 'base install' ?
Its not actually possible to get a minimalist
On 07/26/2012 04:44 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> I agree in principle. But my personal experience led me to have static
> routing on my home LAN.
And you chose not to setup networking at install time ? Had you done
that, you would not be in this situation.
A bare minimal install is targeted at pe
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 04:56:44PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 26.07.2012 16:50, schrieb Scott Robbins:
> > Unfortunately, according to folks who have more knowledge than I do
> > about these things, in later versions of Fedora, and therefore, probably
> > the next version or so of RH, j
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:42:05 AM Fernando Cassia wrote:
> My opinion after this experience is that it'd help for CentOS to
> include system-config-network-tui as part of the base install.
The question becomes "Does upstream include it in their upstream EL?" If the
answer is yes, it will be
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:44:20PM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> DHCP gives "initial" convenience, for "long term hassle". (say you
> want to telnet-in to your ethernet enabled media player)
Like my tivo?
host tivo {
hardware ethernet 00:11:d9:0b:c3:a4;
fixed-address 10.0.0.144;
}
O
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> My machines usually have 6 interfaces or so, are set up in one
>> location, then moved to the production location with the final
>> configuration (including IP's) done by operators
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> So my practical advice is to get a SOHO router that does
>> DHCP if you don't already have one, and if you do have one, configure
>> it to give out the IP you want instead of figh
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> My machines usually have 6 interfaces or so, are set up in one
> location, then moved to the production location with the final
> configuration (including IP's) done by operators that are better at
> windows than linux. Sorry if that doesn't
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> Yes, let's go back to the days of typing the boot code in hex to get
>> the system started. It's all optional
>
> jesus christ a basic network connection is configured
> within 30 seconds wich some
>
> echo "whatever" >> file
Umm, no.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:39 PM, wrote:
> Wonder if I could configure the *best* text editor ever to run under wine:
> brief.
Brief was nice. Under OS/2 I also used QEdit which could also... mimic
the Wordstar keystrokes. ;)
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> So my practical advice is to get a SOHO router that does
> DHCP if you don't already have one, and if you do have one, configure
> it to give out the IP you want instead of fighting with the Centos
> setup.
I agree in principle. But my per
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> there is nothing wrong in CentOS or Fedora
Of course, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a "problem". A
"problem" is a crashing kernel or buggy drivers.
My opinion after this experience is that it'd help for CentOS to
include system-c
Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Les Mikesell
> wrote:
>> Even what most people call
>> insert 'mode' is a command that takes an optional repeat count: try
>> 20i - to get a dashed line.
>> Maybe being old enough to have used keyboards without arrows or
>> function key
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> BOAH do SIMPLY NOT make a base-install if it does not
> satisfy you? what is there so complicated?
The installer switched to base mode/text install due to 'low memory'.
I just used the default recommendation by Virtualbox for Linux-RedHat.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Harris wrote:
>> Remember the "E" in RHEL. Es (in my place we have around 40,000 RHEL
>> installs) configure networking during the build phase. Our standard
>> install doesn't include this unnec
On 26/07/2012 16:26, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Harris wrote:
Remember the "E" in RHEL. Es (in my place we have around 40,000 RHEL
installs) configure networking during the build phase. Our standard
install doesn't include this unnecessary component.
OK
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Harris wrote:
> Remember the "E" in RHEL. Es (in my place we have around 40,000 RHEL
> installs) configure networking during the build phase. Our standard
> install doesn't include this unnecessary component.
OK I'm a SOHO with a single server trying to
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Even what most people call
> insert 'mode' is a command that takes an optional repeat count: try
> 20i - to get a dashed line.
> Maybe being old enough to have used keyboards without arrows or
> function keys helps, though...
Sorry, I gre
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:10:47AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Stephen Harris wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:55:07AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> >> My point being that if the networking stack is part of the base OS
> >> install, so should be system-con
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:55:07 AM Fernando Cassia wrote:
> My point is simple: I install the base config. I'm in text mode. I
> need networking to work to install extra packages and begin setting up
> my system, users, permissions, packages, etc. I have no problem doing
> that manually AFTER I
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Stephen Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:55:07AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> My point being that if the networking stack is part of the base OS
>> install, so should be system-config-network-tui
>
> No. A "tui" is a pretty user interface. It's not
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> PS: I had forgotten about echo >> ... good enough for saving me from
> the vi madness. (I know, I know, esc i blah blah esc :w but still, I
> REFUSE -it's a matter of principle not to use vi ;-)
How can anyone deal with command lines and
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:55:07AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> My point being that if the networking stack is part of the base OS
> install, so should be system-config-network-tui
No. A "tui" is a pretty user interface. It's not necessary for the
functioning nor configuration of the operatin
On 26/07/2012 15:50, Scott Robbins wrote:
Unfortunately, according to folks who have more knowledge than I do
about these things, in later versions of Fedora, and therefore,
probably the next version or so of RH, just manually editing
sysconfig/network-scripts will overlook some necessary parts
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Scott Robbins wrote:
> Unfortunately, according to folks who have more knowledge than I do
> about these things, in later versions of Fedora, and therefore, probably
> the next version or so of RH, just manually editing
> sysconfig/network-scripts will overlook so
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:42:44AM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > do not install servers if you are refuse to think
> > really!
>
> Why create GUI installers then?. Let's just package a tarball and let
> users unpack it manually.
>
> In
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> do not install servers if you are refuse to think
> really!
Why create GUI installers then?. Let's just package a tarball and let
users unpack it manually.
In fact, are you advocating for the removal of
system-config-network-tui ? how about
On 26/07/2012 12:34, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Giles Coochey wrote:
echo nameserver e.f.g.h > /etc/resolv.conf
echo nameserver i.j.k.l >> /etc/resolv.conf
Yes I know BUT for that I have to THINK. Screens and input fields ie
type tab tab tab enter type tab tab tab
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Giles Coochey wrote:
> echo nameserver e.f.g.h > /etc/resolv.conf
> echo nameserver i.j.k.l >> /etc/resolv.conf
Yes I know BUT for that I have to THINK. Screens and input fields ie
type tab tab tab enter type tab tab tab enter are what is known as
"user friendly"
On 23/07/2012 04:40, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??
Not to mention it has insane deps like wifi firmware packages... not
really if all you want to do is configure eth0 from the command
lin
Who was the genius that decided that system-config-network-tui should
NOT be part of the base CentOS 6.3 install ??
Not to mention it has insane deps like wifi firmware packages... not
really if all you want to do is configure eth0 from the command
line...
FC
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