Therese Trudeau wrote:
Don't bother. If you are a serious Adobe designer get
yourself a Mac and dual boot it between OS X and CentOS or
triple with Windows.
Or use parallels or vmware and run all 3 at once when you want... and
let the built in time machine tool do backups to an external firewire
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> Don't bother. If you are a serious Adobe designer get
> yourself a Mac and dual boot it between OS X and CentOS or
> triple with Windows.
> >>> Or use parallels or vmware and run all 3 at once when you want... and
> >>> let the built in time machine tool do
>>> If you are a graphic designer, I'm curious what you use the
>>> CentOS box for (or why you use Windows and not Mac :-)
>>
>> Good question when I started out I had windows so that's
>> what I bought - Adobe windows versions. I'm considering
>> migrating to Mac though because Adobe just start
Don't bother. If you are a serious Adobe designer get
yourself a Mac and dual boot it between OS X and CentOS or
triple with Windows.
>>> Or use parallels or vmware and run all 3 at once when you want... and
>>> let the built in time machine tool do backups to an external firewire
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> >> Ah I figured someone would ask that. I use pretty much all
> >> major adobe products, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, just
> >> about the entire suite.
> >>
> >> I have two home workstation machines. One is Centos, and one
> >> is Windows (the one I use Adobe on). I
Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
Don't bother. If you are a serious Adobe designer get
yourself a Mac and dual boot it between OS X and CentOS or
triple with Windows.
Or use parallels or vmware and run all 3 at once when you want... and
let the built in tim
>> Ah I figured someone would ask that. I use pretty much all
>> major adobe products, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, just
>> about the entire suite.
>>
>> I have two home workstation machines. One is Centos, and one
>> is Windows (the one I use Adobe on). I'd prefer if possible
>> to have t
rudeau
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:03 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: RE: [CentOS] Recommendations for a "real RAID" 1 card on Centos box
>> Unfortunately I can't use software RAID1 because of this:
>>
>> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-Mar
Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> >
> > Don't bother. If you are a serious Adobe designer get
> > yourself a Mac and dual boot it between OS X and CentOS or
> > triple with Windows.
>
> Or use parallels or vmware and run all 3 at once when you want... and
> let the built in tim
Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
Don't bother. If you are a serious Adobe designer get
yourself a Mac and dual boot it between OS X and CentOS or
triple with Windows.
Or use parallels or vmware and run all 3 at once when you want... and
let the built in time machine tool do backups to an external fir
>> Unfortunately I can't use software RAID1 because of this:
>>
>> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-March/096063.html
>
> First, you should probably get your applications from a company that
> doesn't hate its customers... But aside from that, this restriction
> should only apply
Therese Trudeau wrote:
>
> >>> That brings up a last question on possiblity of either a
> >>> 3ware or acrea RAID 1 cards. I'm wondering how long I would
> >>> be able to order
> >>> a replacement RAID card from either of 3ware or areea.
> >>> Anyone know if 3ware or acrea stock identical rep
Therese Trudeau wrote:
I have two home workstation machines.
One is Centos, and one is Windows (the one I use Adobe on). I'd prefer if
possible
to have the same type of RAID cards on both machines, because easier to
manage and if I ever decide to sell or give away one machine, I can pull
the r
> What do you think of alternative back up systems, such as a tape
>> backup with
>> bare metal restore software? I'd go that route instead if I could fine a
>> solution which
>> would allow me to restore to different hardware, i.e. if my motherboard dies
>> and I need to buy a different brand
>> I have two home workstation machines.
>> One is Centos, and one is Windows (the one I use Adobe on). I'd prefer if
>> possible
>> to have the same type of RAID cards on both machines, because easier to
>> manage and if I ever decide to sell or give away one machine, I can pull
>> the raid ca
>> Sorry, I can't access your Windows Live Hotmail inbox . . .
>
> Ah haha sorry was not paying attention, it's here: :)
>
> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-March/096054.html
OOPS - I need some more coffee this am - HERE is the correct thread:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/c
>> No, read this:
>>
>> my previous thread...
>>
>
> Sorry, I can't access your Windows Live Hotmail inbox . . .
Ah haha sorry was not paying attention, it's here: :)
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-March/096054.html
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>>> You are definitely making your life more difficult then is needed
>>> for a desktop machine.
>>>
>>> You said you have 4 hard disks. Make a software RAID1 out of the
>>> first two. Make a software RAID1 out of the second two and your
>>> good to go.
>>>
>>> You can use dump/restore to backup
Therese Trudeau wrote:
I have two home workstation machines.
One is Centos, and one is Windows (the one I use Adobe on). I'd prefer if
possible
to have the same type of RAID cards on both machines, because easier to
manage and if I ever decide to sell or give away one machine, I can pull
the
>> ACTUALLY I totally forgot. I absoluteluy can not use software raid.
>> Because I use Adobe products. Adobe products do not install
>> well on software raid systems, and tend to crash on software raid beacuse of
>> their activation process. If I go raid, I absolutely need a hardware raid
>
>>> That brings up a last question on possiblity of either a
>>> 3ware or acrea RAID 1 cards. I'm wondering how long I would
>>> be able to order
>>> a replacement RAID card from either of 3ware or areea.
>>> Anyone know if 3ware or acrea stock identical replacement
>>> cards for their SATA
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:33:29 -0400
> >
> >
> >> You are definitely making your life more difficult then is
> >> needed for a desktop machine.
> >>
> >> You said you have 4 hard disks. Make a software RAID1 out
> >> of the first two. Make a software RAID1 out of th
Therese Trudeau wrote:
>
> > You are definitely making your life more difficult then is needed
> > for a desktop machine.
> >
> > You said you have 4 hard disks. Make a software RAID1 out of the
> > first two. Make a software RAID1 out of the second two and your
> > good to go.
> >
> > You can u
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:33:29 -0400
>
>
>> You are definitely making your life more difficult then is needed for a
>> desktop machine.
>>
>> You said you have 4 hard disks. Make a software RAID1 out of the first two.
>> Make a software RAID1 out of the second two and your good to go.
>>
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> >>> This is getting OT and you are going to end up spending
> >>> more on redundancy then if you just called Dell and ordered
> >>> another computer.
> >>
> >> I agree with you in that it's cheaper to buy another home
> >> computer than to design a system with redundanc
> You are definitely making your life more difficult then is needed for a
> desktop machine.
>
> You said you have 4 hard disks. Make a software RAID1 out of the first two.
> Make a software RAID1 out of the second two and your good to go.
>
> You can use dump/restore to backup the logical vol
>>> This is getting OT and you are going to end up spending
>>> more on redundancy then if you just called Dell and ordered
>>> another computer.
>>
>> I agree with you in that it's cheaper to buy another home
>> computer than to design a system with redundancy.
>> However that new conputer I
Therese Trudeau wrote:
>
> > This is getting OT and you are going to end up spending
> > more on redundancy then if you just called Dell and ordered
> > another computer.
>
> I agree with you in that it's cheaper to buy another home
> computer than to design a system with redundancy.
> However
>> Just for fun, the first hit on a google for "redundant atx power supply"
>>
>> http://www.directron.com/tc400r8.html
>>
>>
>> Seems you can just plop one into your std atx chassis . . .
>>
>>
>
> i have never understood how something with a single feed can be termed
> 'redundant'
Yeah, that
> You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
> (provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
>
Hopefully you have a redundant PS unit. Having a UPS is not going to
help if your PS fails.
>>>
>>> That's a very good po
>> That's a very good point never thought of that. Acrtually this RAID 1 setup
>> I'm planning
>> is for my desktop machine, problem is is's not built like a server so there
>> is not the traditional
>> slid in bay for a second PS as do many 1 and 2u rack servers have. Unless
>> there is som
CentOS] Recommendations for a “real RAID" 1 card on Centos box
> That is true, buy high quality stuff up front for fewer problems down
> the road. Not a sure bet, but a better one. In the half dozen systems
> I've been running at home for the past several years none of them
> have
will only work with
another identical HW RAID card.
-Ross
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CentOS mailing list
Sent: Fri Mar 14 09:08:39 2008
Subject: RE: [CentOS] Recommendations for a “real RAID" 1 card on Centos box
>>> You ca
>>> You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
>>> (provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
>>>
>>
>> Hopefully you have a redundant PS unit. Having a UPS is not going to
>> help if your PS fails.
>>
>>
>
> redundant power supplies connected
>> You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
>> (provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
>
> Hopefully you have a redundant PS unit. Having a UPS is not going to
> help if your PS fails.
That's a very good point never thought of that. Acrtually t
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> On 3/10/08, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
>> (provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
>
> Hopefully you have a redundant PS unit. Having a UPS is not going to
> help if your
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
>
> On 3/10/08, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
> > (provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
>
> Hopefully you have a redundant PS unit. Having a UPS is not going to
> help i
On 3/10/08, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
> (provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
Hopefully you have a redundant PS unit. Having a UPS is not going to
help if your PS fails.
--
Robert Arkiletian
E
nate wrote
the whole point of a BBU is that you can turn on write back caching -
and get a fair win in write performance on regular tasks.
You can turn on write back caching if you have a UPS as well
(provided your UPS is wired into your system for a graceful shutdown)
UPS isnt going to help
nate wrote:
>
> Therese Trudeau wrote:
>
> > Ah great i'll check out the URL thanks.
> >
> > One thing, an earlier poster reccomended RAID 5 instead of RAID 1.
> > I guess if one only has 2 drives RAID 1 is the way to go but if I have 4
> > drives he said go with
> > RAID 5 over RAID 1. Isn't R
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> Ah great i'll check out the URL thanks.
>
> One thing, an earlier poster reccomended RAID 5 instead of RAID 1.
> I guess if one only has 2 drives RAID 1 is the way to go but if I have 4
> drives he said go with
> RAID 5 over RAID 1. Isn't RAID 1 mirroring a better soluti
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Therese Trudeau wrote:
>> I'm just really looking for a RAID card that will do RAID 1, with four
>> drive capacity, i.e.,
>> a master drive with the OS and applications installed and mirrored, and a
>> slave drive for data and
>> photos, graphic design, video, etc also mirro
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:17:29AM -0400, Therese Trudeau enlightened us:
> Ah great i'll check out the URL thanks.
>
> One thing, an earlier poster reccomended RAID 5 instead of RAID 1. I guess
> if one only has 2 drives RAID 1 is the way to go but if I have 4 drives he
> said go with RAID 5 ove
Therese Trudeau wrote:
Ah that makes total sense now, thanks. Do the 3wire and the Areca cards
allow you to remove battery/cache/disk and install into similar motherboard? Also
when you say remove battery and cache, do you mean remove the entire RAID
card with battery attached to it as complete
Therese Trudeau wrote:
the whole point of a BBU is that you can turn on write back caching -
and get a fair win in write performance on regular tasks.
Pardon my ignorance, what is write back caching and BBU?
Write Back Caching means the card will cache writes in its onboard
storage,
>> I'm considering setting up my Centos Desktop machine for RAID 1. I
>> read a lot of good info at this site:http://linuxmafia.com/faq/
>> Hardware/sata.html#intel-vitesse about differences in fakeraid and
>> real raid cards.
>>
>
> Discontinued chipset but works fine:
>
> http://www.new
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> I'm just really looking for a RAID card that will do RAID 1, with four drive
> capacity, i.e.,
> a master drive with the OS and applications installed and mirrored, and a
> slave drive for data and
> photos, graphic design, video, etc also mirrored. What would battery bu
>> So these cards are just plug n play? Just plug them in, no software or
>> drivers required,
>> all mirroring is managed by firmware built into the card RAID card itself?
>
> Drivers are required for all storage adapters(RAID or not). 3Ware
> handles raid in hardware, not in software, it has a
Most of the things in this email, from me are a personal opinoin, but I
do spend a fair bit of time with these sort of things, these days.
Therese Trudeau wrote:
>> 3Ware 8000-series cards are probably the most compatible going back
>> at least 3 years. 9000-series cards are faster/better and Cent
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> So these cards are just plug n play? Just plug them in, no software or
> drivers required,
> all mirroring is managed by firmware built into the card RAID card itself?
Drivers are required for all storage adapters(RAID or not). 3Ware
handles raid in hardware, not in soft
Therese Trudeau wrote:
> Do such cards exist? If so which model /manufacturers do you recommend?
> Any experiences/info/insights on hardware RAID cards good or bad on centos
> boxes would be appreciated.
3Ware 8000-series cards are probably the most compatible going back
at least 3 years. 9000-
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