Re: [CentOS] System Time

2020-03-11 Thread Blake Hudson
On 3/8/2020 1:55 PM, Frank Cox wrote:  Digital cinema equipment is the only commercial electronic equipment that I know of that is deliberately designed to not do what it's intended to do When someone asks why their firewall is blocking such and such, I sometimes respond that firewalls are "

Re: [CentOS] System Time

2020-03-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 14:01, Chris Olson via CentOS wrote: > A few years ago, one of our interns was curious about system > time keeping features in computer systems. This intern was > also the proud owner of an inexpensive Radio-Controlled Clock. > The intern wondered why computer motherboards

Re: [CentOS] System Time

2020-03-08 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Pete Biggs said: > There's also a massive problem with > signal strength in the UK - the (singular) time transmitter is in the > middle of the country in Cumbria and in the south it's virtually > impossible getting a signal any further than about 2 feet from a window > - not a ho

Re: [CentOS] System Time

2020-03-08 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Sunday, March 08, 2020 6:59 PM + Chris Olson via CentOS wrote: All of our bedrooms have Radio-Controlled Clocks. At 5:30 this morning, half of the clocks displayed the correct time. The other half of the clocks were incorrectly showing a time one hour ahead. Probably a result of pol

Re: [CentOS] System Time

2020-03-08 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 17:59:16 + (UTC) Chris Olson via CentOS wrote: > why computer motherboards were not just > equipped with a chip like the ones in the RCC so that their > system time would always be correct. Digital cinema servers (the gadgets that feed the movie to the projector and sound

Re: [CentOS] System Time

2020-03-08 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sun, 2020-03-08 at 17:59 +, Chris Olson via CentOS wrote: > A few years ago, one of our interns was curious about system > time keeping features in computer systems. This intern was > also the proud owner of an inexpensive Radio-Controlled Clock. > The intern wondered why computer motherboa

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, May 25, 2017 11:16 am, Lamar Owen wrote: > [Going a bit off-topic here, and going to do a bit of a deep-dive on RF > stuff, but maybe it will be useful to Chris] Lamar, thanks a lot for very instructive write-up!! Valeri > > On 05/24/2017 12:20 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> It is insight

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-25 Thread Lamar Owen
[Going a bit off-topic here, and going to do a bit of a deep-dive on RF stuff, but maybe it will be useful to Chris] On 05/24/2017 12:20 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: It is insightful, yet... There are a bunch of other factors that may need to be taken into account. Angular transmission pattern of

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-25 Thread Andrew Holway
Time on computers is typically set using Network Time Protocol (NTP) over the internet however I believe these [1] devices do what you're describing. [1] - https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/products/pci-express-clocks.htm On 24 May 2017 at 15:53, Chris Olson wrote: > One of our STEM intern

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, May 24, 2017 10:45 am, Warren Young wrote: > On May 24, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Chris Adams wrote: >> >> Once upon a time, Warren Young said: >>> a. It’s transmitting from a fixed location in a time zone you >>> probably aren’t in — US Mountain — being the least populous of >>> the low

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/24/2017 11:37 AM, Tate Belden wrote: Warren, one slight correction on an other wise nicely written bit of info: The time transmitted from WWV is not Mountain Time. Even though the WWV transmitter farm is located in the Mountain time zone, the signals are transmitted as "Coordinated Unive

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Tate Belden wrote: > > The time transmitted from WWV is not Mountain Time. I should have split the paragraph, because I didn’t mean to imply that that was the case. My point in mentioning the transmission location is to show that it’s probably a thousand km or mor

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread John Hodrien
On Wed, 24 May 2017, Pete Biggs wrote: The GPS time system is also notoriously very precisely wrong. The time was set when the first satellite was sent up and has never been corrected since - so hasn't taken account of leap seconds or relativistic effects. All that matters for GPS is that the ti

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Lamar Owen
On 05/24/2017 11:29 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: ... The terrestrial radio clocks are actually not that accurate. They are not designed for keeping things like a system clock "correct". Commercial solutions only keep to within about +/- 0.5s per day, with resynchronisation happening about once a day. T

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Warren Young said: >> a. It’s transmitting from a fixed location in a time zone you probably >> aren’t in — US Mountain — being the least populous of the lower 48’s four >> time zones. You therefore have to configure time z

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Tate Belden
Warren, one slight correction on an other wise nicely written bit of info: The time transmitted from WWV is not Mountain Time. Even though the WWV transmitter farm is located in the Mountain time zone, the signals are transmitted as "Coordinated Universal time", UTC, or 'Zulu' time. Here, you can

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2017-05-24 at 13:53 +, Chris Olson wrote: > One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are > inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time > services.  This begged a question about why every computer > would not have a radio module to receive time.  Our senior > staf

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Warren Young said: > a. It’s transmitting from a fixed location in a time zone you probably aren’t > in — US Mountain — being the least populous of the lower 48’s four time > zones. You therefore have to configure time zone offset and DST rules, which > means additional softw

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Markku Kolkka
Chris Olson kirjoitti 24.5.2017 klo 16.53: > One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are > inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time > services. This begged a question about why every computer > would not have a radio module to receive time. Terrestrial time services li

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Chris Olson wrote: > > One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are > inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time > services. There are two major types: 1. WWVB and its equivalents in other countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWVB

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Olson said: > One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are > inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time > services.  This begged a question about why every computer > would not have a radio module to receive time.  Our senior > staff did not have a

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread m . roth
Chris Olson wrote: > One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are > inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time > services.  This begged a question about why every computer > would not have a radio module to receive time.  Our senior > staff did not have a good answer or if

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/24/2017 09:53 AM, Chris Olson wrote: One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time services. This begged a question about why every computer would not have a radio module to receive time. Our senior staff did not have a

Re: [CentOS] System Time - UTC and Local Time

2011-12-01 Thread Johan Martinez
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Digvijay Patankar wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Johan Martinez wrote: > > > I have installed CentOS on a VM by checking 'System Clock uses UTC' > option. > > Later I selected CST time zone. Now the date command shows UTC time with > > CST timezone: "Th

Re: [CentOS] System Time - UTC and Local Time

2011-12-01 Thread Johan Martinez
Thanks for the explanation Johnny. I checked on 'System Clock uses UTC' option and on the next screen I set timezone to CST. I don't remember what exactly I did there. I changed /etc/sysconfig/clock as you mentioned and then also changed the currently set datetime using date command. Then I insta

Re: [CentOS] System Time - UTC and Local Time

2011-12-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/01/2011 10:17 AM, Johan Martinez wrote: > I have installed CentOS on a VM by checking 'System Clock uses UTC' option. > Later I selected CST time zone. Now the date command shows UTC time with > CST timezone: "Thu Dec 1 04:14:39 CST 2011". How do I change system > clock to show CST local t

Re: [CentOS] System Time - UTC and Local Time

2011-12-01 Thread Digvijay Patankar
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Johan Martinez wrote: > I have installed CentOS on a VM by checking 'System Clock uses UTC' option. > Later I selected CST time zone. Now the date command shows UTC time with > CST timezone: "Thu Dec 1 04:14:39 CST 2011". How do I change system > clock to show C

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Clint Dilks wrote: > The OP should also reference this document > http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1006427 This is the 3rd time that KB article was quoted in this thread... :-D Akemi

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread Clint Dilks
nate wrote: > ankush grover wrote: > > >> Earlier this server was syncing time through ntp daemon and below is >> the ntp.conf file. Now I have set a cronjob which sync the time with >> > > Best not to run NTP inside a ESX VM. I've never gotten NTP to sync > inside of VMware outside of a ke

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Benjamin Franz schrieb: > nate wrote: >> Akemi Yagi wrote: >> >>> for VMware products including ESX and ESXi. According to their >>> current recommendations, " In all cases use NTP instead of VMware >>> Tools periodic time synchronization." >>> >> I've been using vmware for 10 years, and I

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread Benjamin Franz
nate wrote: > Akemi Yagi wrote: > >> for VMware products including ESX and ESXi. According to their >> current recommendations, " In all cases use NTP instead of VMware >> Tools periodic time synchronization." >> > > I've been using vmware for 10 years, and I've never, ever ever > gotten N

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread nate
Akemi Yagi wrote: > for VMware products including ESX and ESXi. According to their > current recommendations, " In all cases use NTP instead of VMware > Tools periodic time synchronization." I've been using vmware for 10 years, and I've never, ever ever gotten NTP to hold sync inside of a VM outs

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:08 AM, nate wrote: > ankush grover wrote: > >> Earlier this server was syncing time through ntp daemon and below is >> the ntp.conf file. Now I have set a cronjob which sync the time with > > Best not to run NTP inside a ESX VM. I've never gotten NTP to sync > inside of V

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread nate
ankush grover wrote: > Earlier this server was syncing time through ntp daemon and below is > the ntp.conf file. Now I have set a cronjob which sync the time with Best not to run NTP inside a ESX VM. I've never gotten NTP to sync inside of VMware outside of a kernel with VMI enabled (no versions

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-22 Thread Alexander Dalloz
ankush grover schrieb: > Hi friends, > > I am running Nagios 2.7-1 on Centos 5.0 32-bit hosted on Vmware ESX > 4.0. The issue I am seeing on the server is sometimes nagios is > showing the below messages in /var/log/messages and as the system time > gets changed some false alarms gets generated. I

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
ankush grover wrote: > Hi friends, > > I am running Nagios 2.7-1 on Centos 5.0 32-bit hosted on Vmware ESX > 4.0. The issue I am seeing on the server is sometimes nagios is > showing the below messages in /var/log/messages and as the system time > gets changed some false alarms gets generated. I s

Re: [CentOS] system time automatically fowards in time and then comes back to normal

2009-11-21 Thread Brian Mathis
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:19 AM, ankush grover wrote: > Hi friends, > > I am running Nagios 2.7-1 on Centos 5.0 32-bit hosted on Vmware ESX > 4.0. The issue I am seeing on the server is sometimes nagios is > showing the below messages in /var/log/messages and as the system time > gets changed som