Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-28 Thread Giles Coochey
On 26/07/2019 17:35, Nataraj wrote: If you administer the secondary slave servers, there is no reason not to use a very large number, 30 days or more for the SOA expiration.  Only reason to use a lower number would be if you don't have control over the slave servers and don't want to have old

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-26 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 25, 2019, at 5:42 PM, Nataraj wrote: > > On 7/25/19 4:31 PM, Nataraj wrote: >> It doesn't really help those clients I can not run name servers on, >> though. > > Another alternative is to look at the multicast dns (mdns) protocol. That’s for allowing a device to self-advertise its own

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-26 Thread Nataraj
On 7/26/19 6:52 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > > On 26/07/2019 14:45, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> This brings up one of the caveats for (at least ISC) DNS, if the >> master goes down the slaves will take over for a time but eventually >> will stop serving for the domains of the master if it remains down

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-26 Thread Giles Coochey
On 26/07/2019 14:45, Leroy Tennison wrote: This brings up one of the caveats for (at least ISC) DNS, if the master goes down the slaves will take over for a time but eventually will stop serving for the domains of the master if it remains down too long. If my (sometimes faulty) memory

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-26 Thread Leroy Tennison
please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the message. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability? On 7/25/19 1:10 PM, hw wrote: >> >> Configure all dns servers as primary slaves (plus 1 primary master) for >> your own domains.

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Nataraj
On 7/25/19 4:31 PM, Nataraj wrote: > It doesn't really help those clients I can not run name servers on, > though. Another alternative is to look at the multicast dns (mdns) protocol.  I have no experience with it, so I can't say very much, but I know it exists.  I'm pretty sure it's inplemented

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Nataraj
On 7/25/19 1:10 PM, hw wrote: >> >> Configure all dns servers as primary slaves (plus 1 primary master) for >> your own domains.  I have never seen problems with resolution of local >> dns domains when the Internet was down. > > It seemed to have to do with the TTL for the local names being too >

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Giles Coochey
On 25/07/2019 22:17, Giles Coochey wrote: Separate DNS servers must be on a different subnet according to RFC2182 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2182): Secondary servers must be placed at both topologically and    geographically dispersed locations on the Internet, to minimise the   

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Giles Coochey
On 25/07/2019 20:39, John Pierce wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:32 AM hw wrote: I can't help it when the primary name server goes down because the UPS fails the self test and tells the server it has 2 minutes or so left in wich case the server figures it needs to shut down. I wanted

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 7:10 PM, Nataraj wrote: [...] I meant to say: Configure all dns servers as secondary/slaves (one should be the primary master) for your own domains. Thos means that all of your servers are authoritative for your own domains, so they cannot fail on local dns lookups due to

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, hw wrote: On Linux systems, you can set the timeout in /etc/resolv.conf, e.g., # I think the default nameserver timeout is 5; use rotate # option if you prefer round-robin queries rather than # always using the first-listed first nameserver 10.11.12.13 timeout:2

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 9:39 PM, John Pierce wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:32 AM hw wrote: I can't help it when the primary name server goes down because the UPS fails the self test and tells the server it has 2 minutes or so left in wich case the server figures it needs to shut down. I wanted better

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 9:11 PM, mark wrote: hw wrote: On 7/25/19 4:07 PM, Giles Coochey wrote: Sounds like you're performing maintenance on your servers (a) too often (b) during office / peak hours I can't help it when the primary name server goes down because the UPS fails the self test and tells

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 7:58 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, hw wrote: On 7/25/19 3:28 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote: If you don't want multiple DNS server entries on the client I'm ok with them, only the problem is that the clients take their timeouts when a server is unreachable, and users

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread mark
John Pierce wrote: > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:32 AM hw wrote: > >> I can't help it when the primary name server goes down because the UPS >> fails the self test and tells the server it has 2 minutes or so left in >> wich case the server figures it needs to shut down. I wanted better >> UPSs

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 5:14 PM, Nataraj wrote: On 7/25/19 6:48 AM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Am 2019-07-25 15:41, schrieb hw: On 7/25/19 2:53 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: Hi, how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are sending queries,

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread John Pierce
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:32 AM hw wrote: > I can't help it when the primary name server goes down because the UPS > fails > the self test and tells the server it has 2 minutes or so left in wich case > the server figures it needs to shut down. I wanted better UPSs ... > critical

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread mark
hw wrote: > On 7/25/19 4:07 PM, Giles Coochey wrote: >> Sounds like you're performing maintenance on your servers >> >> >> (a) too often >> (b) during office / peak hours >> > > I can't help it when the primary name server goes down because the UPS > fails the self test and tells the server it

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
> Am 25.07.2019 um 19:58 schrieb Paul Heinlein : > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, hw wrote: > >> On 7/25/19 3:28 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote: >>> If you don't want multiple DNS server entries on the client >> >> I'm ok with them, only the problem is that the clients take their timeouts >> when a server

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread John Pierce
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 11:00 AM Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, hw wrote: > > > On 7/25/19 3:28 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote: > >> If you don't want multiple DNS server entries on the client > > > > I'm ok with them, only the problem is that the clients take their > timeouts > > when a

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, hw wrote: On 7/25/19 3:28 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote: If you don't want multiple DNS server entries on the client I'm ok with them, only the problem is that the clients take their timeouts when a server is unreachable, and users panic. On Linux systems, you can set the

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 4:07 PM, Giles Coochey wrote: > > On 25/07/2019 13:51, hw wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are >> sending queries, be increased? >> >> Would I have to set up some sort of cluster consisting of several >> servers all providing DNS

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 4:49 PM, Nux! wrote: > I'm about to do an overhaul of the DNS service at work and my plan is to use > powerdns recursor + dnsdist + keepalived. I've more or less done the overhaul, only some sort of failover thing is missing ... I'll check those out, thanks!

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 3:28 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote: > If you don't want multiple DNS server entries on the client I'm ok with them, only the problem is that the clients take their timeouts when a server is unreachable, and users panic. > then a master and (possibly multiple) slave server configuration can

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Nataraj
On 7/25/19 8:14 AM, Nataraj wrote: > On 7/25/19 6:48 AM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: >> Am 2019-07-25 15:41, schrieb hw: >>> On 7/25/19 2:53 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: > Hi, > > how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Nataraj
On 7/25/19 6:48 AM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: > Am 2019-07-25 15:41, schrieb hw: >> On 7/25/19 2:53 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: >>> Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: Hi, how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are sending queries, be

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Nux!
I'm about to do an overhaul of the DNS service at work and my plan is to use powerdns recursor + dnsdist + keepalived. --- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! On 2019-07-25 14:28, Leroy Tennison wrote: If you don't want multiple DNS server entries on the client then a master

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 3:48 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: > Am 2019-07-25 15:41, schrieb hw: >> On 7/25/19 2:53 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: >>> Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: Hi, how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are sending queries, be

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread Giles Coochey
On 25/07/2019 13:51, hw wrote: Hi, how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are sending queries, be increased? Would I have to set up some sort of cluster consisting of several servers all providing DNS services which is reachable under a single IP address known to

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread rainer
Am 2019-07-25 15:41, schrieb hw: On 7/25/19 2:53 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: Hi, how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are sending queries, be increased? Would I have to set up some sort of cluster consisting of several

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread hw
On 7/25/19 2:53 PM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: > Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: >> Hi, >> >> how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are >> sending queries, be increased? >> >> Would I have to set up some sort of cluster consisting of several >> servers all providing

Re: [CentOS] how to increase DNS reliability?

2019-07-25 Thread rainer
Am 2019-07-25 14:51, schrieb hw: Hi, how can DNS reliability, as experienced by clients on the LAN who are sending queries, be increased? Would I have to set up some sort of cluster consisting of several servers all providing DNS services which is reachable under a single IP address known to