Hi all -
I've already shared my sadness and appreciation of my good friend Dave on
LinkedIn.
I met him through Jim Gettys at the beginning of the Bufferbloat discovery, and
besides our long correspondence, I hope I have given him enough support over
the years - including introducing him to my
He will be missed.
As a practical question, what is going to happen to all of these lists, etc that
he has been hosting?
David Lang
On Tue, 1 Apr 2025, Frantisek Borsik via Bloat wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 19:27:36 +0200
From: Frantisek Borsik via Bloat
Reply-To: Frantisek Borsik
To
y it depends on what I can get from my external ISP for a
reasonable price - hopefully 2 Gig or better will come here, we have many
competitors (3 cable providers and various small business fixed wireless).
I'm wondering about how fq_codel will handle these higher speeds on inexpensive
com
AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable -
https://adriano.fyi/post/2023/2023-04-16-att-traffic-shaping-makes-websites-unusable/
Maybe Jason Livingood might want to comment (though as a Comcast exec, he
probably won't point out an issue with ATT, another ISP)
I don
There are small, low-TDP Intel systems for up to ~$250 or so (including case)
that use current generation Celerons with 4 2.5 GigE ports, and with the I/O
bandwidth to easily support a full-on router at wirespeed on those ports.
I'm thinking of upgrading my entry-router (which is based on Fed
Dave -
I'm certain that I have non-x86 devices that can forward more than a gbit/sec
in both directions. If only because I have a very nice system based on LS2160A
ARM implementation that I use to forward 10 GigE traffic in both directions.
Though the packets are not tiny. It's not cheap, of co
I have avoided using the term "mesh networks" for a reason. It's way too broad
already. This also goes for "ad hoc networking" (which was supposedly what
MANET was about, but the instigators didn't think very clearly about what the
possibilities were - they focused on what "tactical warfighters
le for the average household
> structured cabling real world use case. Not to mention nothing consumwe comes
> with
> SFP+ in the home space.
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, 10:43 am David Lang, wrote:
> > another valuable featur of fiber for home use is that fiber can't c
another valuable featur of fiber for home use is that fiber can't contribute to
ground loops the way that copper cables can.
and for the paranoid (like me :-) ) fiber also means that any electrical
disaster that happens to one end won't propgate through and fry other equipment
Davi
introduce it but most other vendors have finally picked it up after 5 years or
feet dragging.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 7:16 AM David P. Reed <[ dpr...@deepplum.com ](
mailto:dpr...@deepplum.com )> wrote:
Yes, it's very cheap and getting cheaper.
Since its price fell to the point I t
Yes, it's very cheap and getting cheaper.
Since its price fell to the point I thought was cheap, my home has a 10 GigE
fiber backbone, 2 switches in my main centers of computers, lots of 10 GigE
NICs in servers, and even dual 10 GigE adapters in a Thunderbolt 3 external
adapter for my primary
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
"Valdis Klētnieks" writes:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:09:46 -0800, David Lang said:
with wifi where you can transmit multiple packets in one airtime slot, you need
enough buffer to handle the entire burst.
OK, I'll bite... r
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021, David P. Reed wrote:
To say it again: More memory *doesn't* improve throughput when the queue
depths exceed one packet on average
slight disagreement here. the buffer improves throughput up to the point where
it handles one burst of packets. When packets are transm
with 802.11ac, the difference between uplink and downlink is that the AP can
transmit to multiple users at the same time (multiple signals spacially
multiplexed), but the users transmit back one at a time.
David Lang
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021, David P. Reed wrote:
What's the difference be
What's the difference between uplink and downlink? In DOCSIS the rate
asymmetry was the issue. But in WiFi, the air interface is completely symmetric
(802.11ax, though, maybe not because of centrally polling).
In any CSMA link (WiFi), there is no "up" or "down". There is only sender and
rece
For what? I have recently gotten a MicroSemi RISC-V SoC board with embedded
FPGA (or maybe it is better thought of as an FPGA board with multicore hard
logic RISC-V host.) Runs Linux very fast. It's not set up to be a router,
though - not unless I populate its PCIe slot with NICs. Standard Lin
Pretty good list, thanks for putting this together.
The only thing I'd add, and I'm not able to formulate it very elegantly, is
this personal insight: One that I would research, because it can be a LOT more
useful in the end-to-end control loop than stuff like ECN, L4S, RED, ...
Fact: Detect
ource loading
code, and now the "service worker" javascript code, the idea that it is like
fetching a file using FTP is just wrong. Do NANOG members understand this? I
doubt it.
On Monday, September 20, 2021 5:30pm, "David P. Reed"
said:
I use the example all the time, b
wn
somehow would be an improvement, hopefully before any discards are needed.
There is no "back pressure", because there is no "pressure" at all in a packet
network. There are just queues and links that empty queues of packets at a
certain rate. Thinking about back pres
it's amazing and saddning at the answers
that I get, even from supposedly senior security and networking people.
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We must not tolerate intolerance;
however our response must be carefully measured:
too strong would be hypocritical and risks spiraling out of control;
too weak risks being mista
good path A - > B, but a very weak path B -> A. Multipathing
is another major issue that causes assymtry.
>
> The RF device takes these distance matrices as settings and calculates the
> five branch tree values (as demonstrated in the video). There are
> limitations to solut
nding out money, SpaceX is foolish not to apply for it.
David Lang
On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, Jeremy Austin wrote:
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 12:33:11 -0800
From: Jeremy Austin
To: dick...@alum.mit.edu
Cc: Cake List ,
Make-Wifi-fast ,
Bob McMahon , starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net,
I agree that we don't want to make perfect the enemy of better.
A lot of the issues I'm calling out can be simulated/enhanced with different
power levels.
over wifi distances, I don't think time delays are going to be noticable (we're
talking 10s to low 100s of feet, not
djust it's receive
sensitivity.
David Lang
On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, Bob McMahon wrote:
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 20:23:06 -0700
From: Bob McMahon
To: David Lang
Cc: Ben Greear ,
Luca Muscariello ,
Cake List ,
Make-Wifi-fast ,
Leonard Kleinrock , starl...@lists.bufferbloat.n
are corner cases.
you don't need to include them in every test, but you need to have a way to
configure your lab to include them before you consider any settings/algorithm
ready to try in the wild.
David Lang
On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, Bob McMahon wrote:
We find four nodes, a primary BSS and an ad
transmitting at much lower
power levels than it cn decode the signal.
David Lang
On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, Bob McMahon wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 4:16 PM David Lang wrote:
If you are going to setup a test environment for wifi, you need to include
the
ability to make a fe cases that only happen with RF
station B cannot hear station A
3. station A can hear that station B is transmitting, but not with a strong
enough signal to decode the signal (yes in theory you can work around
interference, but in practice interference is still a real thing)
David Lang
g. the traffic - On-OFF pattern) see [1]. I am not sure
>> when does such information readily exist.
>>
>> Best
>> Amr
>>
>> [1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3341617.3326146 or if behind a paywall
>> https://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~florin/lib/sigmet19b.
I have seen some performance tests that do explicit DNS timing tests separate
from other throughput/latency tests.
Since DNS uses UDP (even if it then falls back to TCP in some cases), UDP
performance (and especially probability of loss at congested links) is very
important.
David Lang
On
On Monday, July 12, 2021 9:46am, "Livingood, Jason"
said:
> I think latency/delay is becoming seen to be as important certainly, if not a
> more direct proxy for end user QoE. This is all still evolving and I have to
> say is a super interesting & fun thing to work on. :-)
If I could manag
Nice read.
Luca
P.S.
Who has not a copy of L. Kleinrock's books? I do have and am not ready to lend
them!
On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 11:01 AM Leonard Kleinrock <[ l...@cs.ucla.edu ](
mailto:l...@cs.ucla.edu )> wrote:
David,
I totally appreciate your attention to when and when not analyti
Keep It Simple, Stupid.
That's a classic architectural principle that still applies. Unfortunately
folks who only think hardware want to add features to hardware, but don't study
the actual real world version of the problem.
IMO, and it's based on 50 years of experience in network and operat
all things. [1]. There's a lot of
> > fallout from that in terms of not just addressing queuing delay, but
> > caching, prefetching, and learning more about what a user really needs
> > (as opposed to wants) to know via intelligent agents.
> >
> > [0] If you wan
Well, nice that the folks doing the conference are willing to consider that
quality of user experience has little to do with signalling rate at the
physical layer or throughput of FTP transfers.
But honestly, the fact that they call the problem "network quality" suggests
that they REALLY, RE
(They closed the issue on the golang link.)
I'm not a golang user. One language too many for me. It sounds like a library
issue.
My suggestion would be to use the openness of open source. Generate a patchset
that extends the interface properly. Don't try to "improve" what you don't like
- com
)
My sister is in rural Michigan and the best she can get is 2M (until starlink),
with 3 kids doing remote learning and her teaching. Not great, but they survived
2020 with it.
yes, more is nice, but saying that 100Mb is not enough is ignoring the huge
population that isn't getting 1/10
ng for a specific company (avoiding even the appearance
of bias) but it's morphed to present at least the appearance of special access.
David Lang
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, David P. Reed wrote:
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 21:23:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: David P. Reed
To: Theodore Ts'o
Cc: Make-Wifi
just the personal opinion of someone who has been developing systems
for 50+ years now. I'm kind of disappointed, but my opinion does not really
matter much.
David
On Monday, March 29, 2021 9:52pm, "Theodore Ts'o" said:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 04:28:11PM -0400
Dave -
I've spent a fair amount of time orbiting the FreeBSD community over the past
few years. It's not as sad as you might think.
However, the networking portion of FreeBSD community is quite differently
organized than it is in Linux.
What tends to shape Linux and FreeBSD, etc. are the mon
I know I am seen as too outspoken on these things, but this paper was frank
nonsense! I mean, starting from the idea that sensor and actuator devices use a
small bit rate averaged over a 24 hour period means that they should be
assigned a "narrowband channel" (which would be fine if real sensor
This is using the compute module, that does not have any on-board ports
so it's 2 Gig ports total
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t be much motivation to do anything else.
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Anybody know the
These are ASICs, not fpgas. Presumably they are manufactured on Intel fabs
using Intel processes, after designing them.
The overview references RTL design specs. Now Verilog and VHDL can speciry RTL
designs (but are a bit more general).
Also, the I/O pins seem to be a bit more specialized th
This is an excellent proposal. I am happy to support it somehow.
I strongly recommend trying to find a way to make sure it doesn't become a
proposal put forward by "progressive" potlitical partisans. (this is hard for
me, because my politics are more aligned with the Left than with the
self-d
Hmmm... good post, I guess. But aren't WiFi 6 and StarLink being built by
people who have proved their genius by being billionaires?
It's sad, though, to read through the comments. There's a whole 'nother world
out there now.
Apparently the world of commenters are largely convinced bufferbloat
It has bufferbloat?
Why am I not surprised?
I can share that one stack hasn't had it from the start, by design. That is one
implemented for trading at 10+ GB/sec, implemented in Verilog, and now
apparently in production use at one of the largest NY trading intermediaries.
Why? Simply two reas
Interop 2019 gave this an award?
I have to say, it reads like a clone of the Bell System Technical Manual (or
some of the LTE spec).
In the tutorial it doesn't seem to say what problem it is solving.
But hey, maybe the IAB loves it? They seem to be clueless as hell about
internetworking as a c
Yeah. In 1969, Bruce Daniels was a neighbor in my dorm (Random Hall, MIT) and
Tim Anderson was working in the same office space at Project MAC as Carl Hewitt
in around 1974, when I was, among other things like working on Multics kernel
and building MACLISP, helping Carl with implementing Planne
It does seem awfully complicated compared to how I would imagine the
functionality could be implemented if you just did it on top of UDP. One of the
costs of using UDP is that one needs to support protocol-specific end-to-end
congestion control as well as protocol-specific datagram-loss handlin
Sadly, out-of-order delivery tolerance was a "requirement" when we designed TCP
originally. There was a big motivation: spreading traffic across a variety of
roughly equivalent paths, when you look at the center of the network activity
(not the stupid image called "backbone" the forces you to th
I have some servers with 512 GB of RAM, and my company sells "Software Defined
Server" capability to relatively inexpensively make virtualized systems with 10
TB of RAM out of these 512 GB systems. They fit in less then a single 19" rack.
[Couldn't resist :-) https://www.tidalscale.com/technolog
The ESP32-CAM device (which is under $10 quantity 1 from lots of sources, just
google) is a WiFi enabled camera board with lots of functionaliy built in,
including a full WiFi (2.4 GHz) and TCP/IP with TLS stack.
I have been playing with a couple, as have my friends. Various folks have 3D
printe
for
software updates and makes provisions for devices or components that
cannot be updated through software, noting that the manufacturer can
replace them—in fact, under U.K. law they must repair or replace faulty
products for 6 years."
oh, I so wish we had that in the US. But what qualifies as
Pragmatically, I solve this by a mixed, manual strategy. My entry router at
home isn't OpenWRT based, it only connects a WAN GigE port to a home LAN GigE
port. I use multiple APs, and for now solve the "make wifi fast" problem by
using one 5 GHz channel per AP, and enough APs so I can have only
replicated
on each computer, in the Squaak variant of Smalltalk. And we did it with 3
coders in a couple of years. (yes, they are sckilled people - me, David A.
Smith, and the late Andreas Raab, who died way too young).
In contrast, trying to bridge between EDF and regular Linux processes runn
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, David P. Reed wrote:
Congestion control for real-time video is quite different than for streaming.
Streaming really is dealt with by a big enough (multi-second) buffering, and
can in principle work great over TCP (if debloated).
UDP congestion control MUST be end-to-end
Congestion control for real-time video is quite different than for streaming.
Streaming really is dealt with by a big enough (multi-second) buffering, and
can in principle work great over TCP (if debloated).
UDP congestion control MUST be end-to-end and done in the application layer,
which is u
Thanks, Colin, for the info. Sadly, I learned all about the licensing of
content in the industry back about 20 years ago when I was active in the
battles about Xcasting rights internationally (extending "broadcast rights" to
the Web, which are rights that exist only in the EU, having to do with
Sadly, my home provider, RCN, which is otherwise hugely better than Comcast and
Verizon provisioning wise, still won't provide IPv6 to its customers. It's a
corporate level decision. I know the regional network operations guys, which is
why I know about the provisioning - they have very high-end
This might turn out to be a problem for me - I have a "smart TV" that I watch
Netflix on, and it appears to use IPv4. What specifically triggers Netflix to
reject specific IPv6 clients? Is it the player's IPv6 address? Is all of
he.net's address space blocked?
I've been planning to move more of
Good grief, can't we kill off NAT? IPv4.01 isn't IPv6.
What does the other end think your IPv6 source address is? Can your tethered
systems pass addressable endpoints to the other end, and expect them to work?
Or will there be STUN6/TURN6 needed to do, say, WebRTC peering?
On Tuesday, January 2
What a beautiful document. I noticed a few bugs in the protocol here and there
as I skimmed it, and what appear to just be typos.
I'm sure it all just works perfectly, after reading the proof of correctness
that I found on github.
:-(
On Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:54am, "Dave Taht" said:
> I
Fun, but it is all just a dynamic geometry game.
It's worth remembering that Congestion Control will be a huge problem here.
It's far from obvious that current TCP congestion control (which assumes all
packets in a virtual circuit traverse the same path in a very deep way indeed)
will do the j
Sorry, I can't help - I never spend time or effort on Twitter, Reddit, etc.
because I see no value and lots of problems in doing that.
Musk probably wouldn't love my views on most of his companies, anyway.
I hope he gets something right on this one.
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:45am, "Dave Ta
I have been chatting with a startup in the Multi-User Dwelling networking
operations space, and they seem to really be attracted to Ubiquiti Unifi
systems. I can't blame them for wanting a comprehensive and evolving system.
But on the questions related to bufferbloat and making wifi both low l
rom one end to the other).
On Saturday, May 18, 2019 6:57pm, "Jonathan Morton"
said:
> > On 19 May, 2019, at 1:36 am, David P. Reed
> wrote:
> >
> > Pardon, but cwnd should NEVER be larger than the number of forwarding hops
> between source and destination.
ays on my mind.
> > I'd long ago hoped that DSL devices would adopt BQL, and that
> > cablemodems would also, thus moving packet processing a little higher
> > on the stack so more advanced algorithms like cake could take hold.
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:32
arly 60s and civilization survived, after, admittedly, getting neck
> deep in the big muddy.
> So anyway, here's that song, that has a fascinating history:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnJVkEX8O4
>
> and to me applies to a lot of folk, currently in power. Perh
In my personal view, the lack of any evidence that Huawei has any more
government-controlled or classified compartmented Top Secret offensive Cyberwar
exploits than Cisco, Qualcomm, Broadcom, Mellanox, F5, NSO group, etc. is quite
a strong indication that there's no relevant "there" there.
Gi
Ideally, it would need to be self-configuring, though... I.e., something
like the IQRouter auto-measuring of the upstream bandwidth to tune the
shaper.
Sure, seems like this is easy to code because there are exactly two ports to
measure, they can even be labeled physically "up" and "down" to
ing,
negotiating a sales channel, etc. Just do what is needed to make a few thousand
for the CrowdSupply market.
Thoughts?
-Original Message-
From: "David P. Reed"
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 2:38pm
To: "Valdis Klētnieks"
Cc: "Rich Brown" , "cerowrt
Well, of all the devices in my house (maybe 100), only the router attached to
the cable modem (which is a 2x GigE Intel Linux board based on Fedora 29 server
with sch_cake configured) is running fq_codel. And setting that up was a labor
of love. But it works a charm for my asymmetric Gigabit ca
I've spent almost 25 tears trying to address this problem, technologically.
First with UWB, then with technologies that scale capacity with the number of
users in a band, then with the FCC Spectrum Policy Task Force, then on the FCC
Technolocical Advisory Committee.
Each time, most radio engine
swer to themselves or their "owners".
Just don't trust them. You can buy their stuff and use it because it is pretty
darn functional, but don't put your life entirely in their hands, even if they
have similar facial features to you.
-Original Message-
From: &
llars to protect the US from becoming a
third world country)
Humans don't think. They react emotionally, and tribally.
-Original Message-----
From: "Dave Taht"
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:16pm
To: "David P. Reed"
Cc: "cerowrt-devel" , "bloat"
The NYTimes has become a mouthpiece for those who want to see China as the new
evil empire. Recent pieces by David Sanger have hyped the idea that the US has
a "5G Gap" and that China (Huawei) will threaten to conquer the world with 5G
superiority, so we should be vigilantly oppos
Dave -
I tend to agree with Christian's thesis, despite the flaws in his "history".
HTTP/3 does NOT specify a congestion control algorithm, and in fact seems to
encourage experimentation with wacky concepts. That's a terrible approach to
standardization.
Roskind is not my kind of a hero.
Well, pots and kettles - I bet there are, amongst the huge numbers of
LEDE/OpenWRt packages, some very useful DDoS amplification concerns. So it's
really not a strong proof of the claim that "factory firmware" is bad.
My own home border router I built myself, and yet it acquires new problems wi
Well, you all know that I think of diffserv as an abortion. It's based on
thinking that assumes central, hierachical adminstrative agreements among what
should be autonomous systems.
Yeah, at layer 2 for packets that stay within an administratively uniform
domain, diffserv can be useful.
But e
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019, David Lang wrote:
I had high hopes for these, but the driver development is not working well,
it's one guy at Marvell who does it in his spare time, nobody else has the
info to be able to work on it.
It's the w
well, it's
one guy at Marvell who does it in his spare time, nobody else has the info to be
able to work on it.
I'm working on the c2600 as my replacement for the wndr3800. I tried the C7 but
it's not really much better than the wndr38
A look at home routers, and a surprising bug in Linux/MIPS -
https://cyber-itl.org/2018/12/07/a-look-at-home-routers-and-linux-mips.html
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Conquer the spectrum licensing and device certification nexus. Or else your
cell is will pwn yr physical world.
LTE over UNII band is not even as good as CSMA at sharing and cooperation, and
without coordination at installation planning time, it doesn't work well.
802.11ax has the same fragilit
from the Linux UDP stack in one systemcall rather than having to make one
syscall per packet. In rsyslog this is a significant benefit at high packet
rates.
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ling participants. But the
latter good is lost, as the Pied Piper solved our communications concerns using
the Internet, and then demanded control of our children.
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From: "Michael Richardson"
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:14am
To: "David P. Ree
> I would like it very much if my country attempted to get to something>
> similar as a requirement for FCC certification or import. Stronger> yes,
> would be nice, but there was> nothing horrible in here that I could see.
Dave T. - You may remember from when I helped get you in contact with t
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Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM David P. Reed wrote:
>
> WiFi is a bit harder than IP. But you know that.
>
> I truly believe that we need to fix the phy/waveform/modulation space to
> really scale up
WiFi is a bit harder than IP. But you know that.
I truly believe that we need to fix the phy/waveform/modulation space to really
scale up open wireless networking capability. LBT is the basic bug in WiFi, and
it is at that layer, melow the MAC.
I have tried for 20 years now to find a way to be
He does a good job of explaining these high provile vulnerabilities.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Jonathan Morton wrote:
On 5 Jan, 2018, at 5:35 pm, dpr...@deepplum.com wrote:
Of course the "press" wants everyone to be superafraid, so if they can say "KVM is
affected" that causes the mob to start runn
There are two different issues here.
1. the last mile ISP plays games with the traffic for their own benefit (and
thir competitors detriment)
2. the government wants to spy on everybody
It's possible for the VPN tunnel providers to solve problem #1 without solving
problem #2
k
I share your concern for updates, and support for same.
However, there are architectural solutions we should have pursued a long time
ago, which would bound the damage of such vulnerabilities. Make the system far
more robust.
There's no reason for dnsmasq to run with privileges. Not should pack
On Mon, 5 Jun 2017, Richard Smith wrote:
My WNDR 3700v2 power supply is rated at 12V 2.5A which is a peak of 30W.
don't forget that this includes providing power out to the USB port as well.
yet another reason to measure things :-)
David L
On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, James Cloos wrote:
"DL" == David Lang writes:
DL> I wonder if you are running into the problem with encryption and
DL> packet re-ordering that was solved a couple months ago, try disabling
DL> fq_codel or test without encryption to see if that's
On Sun, 6 Nov 2016, James Cloos wrote:
"DL" == David Lang writes:
DL> My first question is if you have checked that you don't have other
DL> 5GHz users on the same channel in your area.
Yes, The Wifi Analyzer droid app (run on my fairly high end phablet)
shows onl
full
power/frequency range for your location.
upload faster than download is unusual, but interference can cause strange
issues.
Get the RF right before you worry about other things.
David Lang
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outgoing message.
It's compiled into the kernel and on by default (I fight to turn it off for
Scale where I don't need to maintain state in the APs as they don't do any
firewalling)
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Similarly I'm unfamiliar with the state of ipv6 upnp
t does is impressive, given the amount
things have changed since it was designed, and the fact that backwards
compatibility has been maintained.
David Lang
Bob
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:09 PM, David Lang wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016, Bob McMahon wrote:
packet size is smallest udp payload per a
t on the 'coordination' channel.
I'm also not sure what good it would do, once a transmission has been stepped
on, it will need to be re-sent (I guess you would be able to re-send immediatly)
David Lang
Bob
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 1:09 PM, David Lang wrote:
On Mon, 27 J
uld be separated from the the BSSID's
"carrier/energy state" signal?
how do you solve the interference problem on this other band/radio? When you
have other APs in the area operating, you will have the same problem there.
David Lang
Bob
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