Re: clueless

2004-05-12 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I just got a political spam this morning that argued that we shouldn't feel sorry for the Iraqi prisoners because look what these people do to us (referring, of course, to the beheading of Nick Burg and similar incidents.) No, I really don't think they're operating in the same reality, Dana. The

RE: Holy sh**. Alienware Graphics Array system!

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Davis
That sucker's gonna suck some juice and generate some heat. I can see it now: run "DOOM" at full settings AND cook a 12 lb turkey in only 5 hours.  ;^) Jim Davis   _   From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Holy sh**. A

RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Davis
Yeah. I had just about repressed it as well. For me it was the noise made during it. my wife heard it from the next room and started to get up to investigate.  I made her sit back down - I knew that she wouldn't've handled it at all well. Jim Davis The one with the Soldier holding him down with

RE: begin 666

2004-05-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
It really doesn't seem that long since the last "National Dance Like A Chicken Day".  I'm still trying to get the stains out my overalls. marlon -Original Message- From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 5/12/2004 9:13 PM To: CF-Community Cc: Subject: RE: begin 666 Well that

RE: begin 666

2004-05-12 Thread cfhelp
Well that's just to bad because we only have one goat left and we are saving that for the "National Dance Like A Chicken Day" that's coming up May 14th. Rick -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject:

RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
That would be a 'yes' :( -Original Message- From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 5/12/2004 9:06 PM To: CF-Community Cc: Subject: RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites. The one with the Soldier holding him down with his foot? I just got that our of my mind Thanks Rick --

RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread cfhelp
The one with the Soldier holding him down with his foot? I just got that our of my mind Thanks Rick -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites. Warning!: Gra

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread cfhelp
I remember that or one like it a few years ago. The Sphinx has been rebuilt multiple times and half of it is buried in the sand.  At different times it didn't even look like a Pharaoh on a lion's body. Rick -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesd

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread cfhelp
They don't have an area 54 Rick -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico! Mexico always gets the good stuff, UFO's, crying religious statue

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread cfhelp
I hope they have a patch to stop JRUN from crashing. But then again maybe they have come for our Cold Fusion. Rick -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:32 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by militar

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
"After watching the videos carefully on national television news, Gustavo Paez, a retired airline pilot, said they appeared to be "totally real, despite the fact that some people dismiss sightings such as these as fantasies of the disturbed". "We have to give this credibility as it was spotted by t

RE: clueless

2004-05-12 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Does sound like what leads to problems at corporations and politics.  Living in Chicago, I see it every day with Daley administration.  And this is clearly Bush's weakness. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:47 PM   To:

Re: clueless

2004-05-12 Thread dana tierney
very interesting point Dana >I'll do better than that. > >War Management Follows the Wrong Corporate Model [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Holy sh**. Alienware Graphics Array system!

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
"Video Array is an accelerated graphics processing subsystem that will allow users to add multiple, off-the-shelf video cards to their Alienware computer systems and have both cards process graphic commands in parallel. Understanding the wide-ranging wants and needs of its customers, Alienware desi

RE: clueless

2004-05-12 Thread Sandy Clark
I'll do better than that. War Management Follows the Wrong Corporate Model By Steven Pearlstein Wednesday, May 12, 2004; Page E01 There are lots of ways to explain why the Bush administration has made a hash of its Iraq policy. To my mind, however, this is fundamentally a story about managem

Re: clueless

2004-05-12 Thread Kevin Graeme
Can you summarize since it requires a subscription? -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Sandy Clark" > I read an interesting article that kind of touches on this in the Washington > Post Business Section today, (apparently in DC, politics is business, > fashion, entertainment and probabl

RE: clueless

2004-05-12 Thread Sandy Clark
I read an interesting article that kind of touches on this in the Washington Post Business Section today, (apparently in DC, politics is business, fashion, entertainment and probably sports as well as news.) Link Below. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19084-2004May11.html   _  

Re: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Phillip B
ah geez. I had no idea. :-[ dana tierney wrote: > >I haven't seen the video, and don't want > >to see it either. > > yes > > the fact that the media is using the verb "saw" as in sawed off his > head, is enough for me... > > Dana > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsu

Re: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread dana tierney
>I haven't seen the video, and don't want >to see it either. yes the fact that the media is using the verb "saw" as in sawed off his head, is enough for me... Dana [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Marwan Saidi
+1 For some reason I poked around rotten.com one day. Suffice it to say that I was quite disturbed, and felt sick for a while. Not my bag, not at all. I do know many folks who used to dig the whole faces of death videos and such, but I can safely say that I never want to see one of those (even i

Re: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Phillip B
I saw the same video. By the time I figured out what I was watching, I had seen to much. It messed with me for days. Phillip B. Marlon Moyer wrote: > Warning!: Graphic description follows > > I remember watching a video one time a Russian coworker had forward to > me.  It was titled "What the C

Re: Stupid virus

2004-05-12 Thread Phillip B
I'm using Netscape for now. I don't know what Symantic did but there isn't a quarantine file so I can't recover squat. :-[ I'm going to see if I can prevent it from jacking with my email files. Marlon Moyer wrote: > Are you using Thunderbird or something similar? Anyway, that happened to > me o

RE: Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Warning!: Graphic description follows I remember watching a video one time a Russian coworker had forward to me.  It was titled "What the Chechnyans are doing to Russian Soldiers" and it contained vivid video of a Russian soldier having his throat slit and him choking on his own blood.  I've ne

Bodyparts on Hamas websites.

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
This seems to be the latest fad and new low amongst these bastard militant Islamics. Apparently they want to trade the body parts of the Israeli soldiers for Hamas prisoners of war. A friend of mine also rather stupidly watched the video of them beheading the American. He said it was done with

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Ian Skinner
Some of the talk about walking around with roving networks brings to the mind of targeted advertising.  I can imagine, if enough people carry devices like this, going down the center of a mall and as you pass each store multimedia advertising being beamed to your portable. Sounds kind of scary

Re: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Ben Doom
> I don't even want to think of LARP'ers. They would go nuts over it. Moreover > you're starting to get into the territory that Larry Niven covered in a few > of his novels, eg., Dream Park. Still it is an interesting concept, we get a > lot of Civil War reenactors. With this technology you'd could

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
I don't even want to think of LARP'ers. They would go nuts over it. Moreover you're starting to get into the territory that Larry Niven covered in a few of his novels, eg., Dream Park. Still it is an interesting concept, we get a lot of Civil War reenactors. With this technology you'd could have ba

clueless

2004-05-12 Thread dana tierney
"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld defended military interrogation techniques in Iraq on Wednesday, rejecting complaints that they violate international rules and may endanger Americans taken prisoner" http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-05-12-rumsfeld_x.htm I know I am harping on this.

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Davis
From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hook in a pc run game server and you could have a fairly robust instant gaming networks. larry Extend the reach of that PC server across a wide-area 802.11 hotspot (an Airport, a university campus, or a mall) with the full range of motion allowed b

Re: Stupid virus

2004-05-12 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Phillip B wrote: > I received an email with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus. :-[ Symantic > caught it and then proceeded to pooch all the email in my inbox. Now all > the emails in my inbox are blank. > > Any one have this happen before? Overzealous virus scanners are evil: http://www.houseoffusion

RE: Stupid virus

2004-05-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Are you using Thunderbird or something similar? Anyway, that happened to me once, and I had to shut down the mail client, retrieve the mail.mbx file from the quarantine area and place it back in the profile/mail directory. -- Marlon Moyer, Sr. Internet Developer American Contractors Insurance Gro

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread dana tierney
well, yeah. It's the "carried out in the name of the insurgents but actually done by the US" part that I was questioning. But... can someone explain to me how it is that if we are the occupying force in the country, and an American is arrested in that country, that his arrest has nothing to do wi

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> So how would you feel if the Vatican, Winchester Cathedral, > Crystal Palace, Salt Lake City etc. (name the religious > capital of your choice) were flattened, and you were a devout > follower. You'd be supremely pissed. That is what it would be > like if we carpet bomb Najaf to get at Sadir.

Re: CF-Community: Digest every hour

2004-05-12 Thread Ben Doom
Oh, no!  He has a board with a nail in it!  This will lead to bigger boards, with bigger nails!  We are defeated! Paraphrasing, of course. --BenD Jeffry Houser wrote: > I'm reminded of the Simpsons Halloween episode (no idea which > one).  After they all give up weapons (or something like that

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
Hook in a pc run game server and you could have a fairly robust instant gaming networks. larry > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed! > > > It's the 802.11b that's r

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
So how would you feel if the Vatican, Winchester Cathedral, Crystal Palace, Salt Lake City etc. (name the religious capital of your choice) were flattened, and you were a devout follower. You'd be supremely pissed. That is what it would be like if we carpet bomb Najaf to get at Sadir. Why pour gaso

Re: CF-Community: Digest every hour

2004-05-12 Thread Jeffry Houser
I'm reminded of the Simpsons Halloween episode (no idea which one).  After they all give up weapons (or something like that) the aliens are running around w/ clubs controlling things.   "Your superior intellect is match for our puny technology"  ( or something like that). At 01:04 PM 5/12/2004

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
Speaking of the Pyramids, saw a show a while back on discovery about the Sphinx being tons older than the Pyramids, like before Egypt was a powerhouse. Anyone know anymore on this subject? -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:26 PM To

RE: Opening file...editing file...saving changes to server problem

2004-05-12 Thread Philip Arnold
> From: Nathan R. Jessop > > I have an app where I'm opening a file (text file) on the > server (with no file extension) and displaying the contents > on my page in a TEXTAREA. It might be that the form is converting single character returns chr(13) to chr(13) & Chr(10), which your apps might s

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Davis
It's the 802.11b that's really got me excited. I can see whole new genre's of gameplay and utility software. The system could broadcast challenges as you're walking around the mall so that at any time you have to have compete with a stranger in any number of games. What about a real-life "killer"

Stupid virus

2004-05-12 Thread Phillip B
I received an email with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus. :-[ Symantic caught it and then proceeded to pooch all the email in my inbox. Now all the emails in my inbox are blank. Any one have this happen before? Phillip B. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [U

Re: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Kevin Graeme
I'm highly skeptical. I certainly believe in the possibility of life elsewhere in the Universe. It's a big place. But if they do exist, and if they have visited us, then they must be so technologically advanced that it would be kind of silly to worry about it. Especially since I haven't seen them

re: Opening file...editing file...saving changes to server problem

2004-05-12 Thread Nathan R. Jessop
Hi, I have an app where I'm opening a file (text file) on the server (with no file extension) and displaying the contents on my page in a TEXTAREA. file.cfm = #Trim(HTMLEditFormat(textvar))# I make the appropriate changes and then submit those changes to my action page. action.c

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Philip Arnold
> From: Angel Stewart >   > http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/11/technology/e3_psp/index.htm?cnn=yes >   > That's one sexy hand held ;-) Let's not forget about the Nintendo DS http://www.nintendo.com/e3_2004/ds/index.jsp [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

Re: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Ben Doom
They're weather balloons.  Really.  Especially the ones that built the pyramids in Egypt.  Those were *definately* weather balloons. --BenD Michael Dinowitz wrote: > There are certain locations that have a long history of such events. Are > they > aliens? Environmental events? Spirits? Who know

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> How will it go away peacefully? The sad reality is that the situation will get much worse before it gets better in my opinion. I am not in favor of the war at all; I do support the troops though. I think the time is coming when the U.S. needs to take a stance or get out; too much pussy-footing g

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Davis
>From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >So, all joking aside, what do folks think of this? I seem to remember seeing >multiple reports of UFOs in Mexico (of course these were always on those >corny Fox "news" shows.) Mexico City is one of the most polluted cities in the hemisphere.  Much

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> While I see what Mike was trying to do ('Gel has had an irritatingly > one-track on this subject lately) I'm not comfortable with the comparison or > the possible implication that one is partial justification for the other. > (I'm not sure that Mike personally meant that implication, but there ar

Re: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There are certain locations that have a long history of such events. Are they aliens? Environmental events? Spirits? Who knows. I've read theories on all and it still comes down to one thing; it's can't (yet) be proven. -- Michael Dinowitz House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Finding techni

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
. Only with lots of muffins and ear wiggles on all sides. 0_0 -Gel -Original Message- From: John McCosker How will it go away peacefully? -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.21 - R

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
. Only with lots of muffins and ear wiggles on all sides. 0_0 -Gel -Original Message- From: John McCosker How will it go away peacefully? -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.21 - R

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John McCosker
Have you seen the movie Bowling for Columbine, fascinating facts about US foreign policy. However, I hope and wish this would change. While it seems like a good idea to "Locate a relative of one of the kidnappers and then dismember them and send the body parts to the kidnapper", where does it end

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John McCosker
Have you seen the movie Bowling for Columbine, fascinating facts about US foreign policy. However, I hope and wish this would change. While it seems like a good idea to "Locate a relative of one of the kidnappers and then dismember them and send the body parts to the kidnapper", where does it end

RE: WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Raymond Camden
+1, especially when compared to the new Nintendo handheld. Frnakly, I just can't believe the screen shot I saw of Gran Turismo Mobile. It looks too good. Really. -rc > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:36 AM > To: CF-Com

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Davis
While I see what Mike was trying to do ('Gel has had an irritatingly one-track on this subject lately) I'm not comfortable with the comparison or the possible implication that one is partial justification for the other. (I'm not sure that Mike personally meant that implication, but there are defini

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Doug White
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119683,00.html According to his family, Berg, a small telecommunications business owner, spoke to his parents on March 24 and told them he would return home on March 30. But he was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. Berg was turned o

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
okay so I was just crazy talkin' , but the image I saw looked like the glow stick liquid.c'mon...it kind of did. ;) -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:35 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by milit

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Marwan Saidi
They haven't rallied because to do so means death, period. The stories that do not get the airtime here (in the States) are those of the "normal" (your word) Iraqis who are dragged from their homes and killed in the streets for "aiding" the US. Things that were done by Saddam's forces while he was

WOOT! PSP Revealed!

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/11/technology/e3_psp/index.htm?cnn=yes That's one sexy hand held ;-) -Gel -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.241 / Virus Database: 262.9.21 - Release Date: 5/12/2004 [Todays Threads] [This

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread dana tierney
I'd like to see a link on this. I am rather disturbed over the dispute as to whether he was or was not in US custody. Surely he would have known, and why would he tell his parents so if he were not? But this takes paranoia a step further than I had. That being said, the execution was horrifying by

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
Theres the live video too on some bootleg sites..I just can't seem to find it yet! One site had it and got hammered so they took it down :-( Some military guys that saw it say that at first glance it looks darn authentic, and it seems the Pilot actually locked IR weapons up at some point in t

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
I hope it is UFO's, and they have come to kick our asses with superior technology. This will "hopefully" cause humanity to unite in a common cause, to battle the agressors while at the same time vaulting us forward into the space race. This then will lead to the immediate colonization of the local

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think someone may still be recovering from Cinqo de Mayo. All joking aside. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/12/04 11:23AM >>> So, all joking aside, what do folks think of this? I seem to remember seeing multiple reports of UFOs in Mexico (of course these were always on those corny Fox "

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Mexico always gets the good stuff, UFO's, crying religious statues, appearances of the virgin mary. -- Marlon Moyer, Sr. Internet Developer American Contractors Insurance Group phone: 972.687.9445 fax: 972.687.0607 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.acig.com > -Original Message- > From: Ra

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
it looks to me like one of the pilots was messing with a glow stick and broke it open, spraying the phos. liquid onto the glass, and then they took an IR picture of it. of course that's just me ;-). -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 20

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Raymond Camden
So, all joking aside, what do folks think of this? I seem to remember seeing multiple reports of UFOs in Mexico (of course these were always on those corny Fox "news" shows.) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Kevin Graeme
The description is similar to the "Foo Fighters" that pacific airmen reported during WWII. It's impossible to tell what they even might be from the photo though. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Angel Stewart" > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/11/mexico.ufos.ap/index.html >

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Doug White
Perhaps it is time (again) to use tactics the Russians used when their Diplomats were kidnapped in Palestine. Locate a relative of one of the kidnappers and then dismember them and send the body parts to the kidnapper.   The result was that the diplomats were immediately released. Saddam Hussein'

Re: question

2004-05-12 Thread dana tierney
I'd agree with this. And I am speaking as someone that recently went through the archive re hosting. Dana >Mike, >They would get a look-see.  But this won't compensate for pricing & service. >It would break a tie. > >Andy [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe]

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
They should have fired at the UFO's, and of course that reminds me of the line from Independence Day "Don't shoot at the ships, you may inadvertantly start an intergalactic war" -Original Message- From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:14 AM To

RE: UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Harkins, Patrick
tequila on the lens...! ;-) -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/11/mexico.ufos.ap/index.html So.. The tension in the middle east, the cutting off of the man's head, and now this. Is this the end of the world as we know it? -Gel Outbound em

UFOS caught on Infrared by military jets in Mexico!

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/11/mexico.ufos.ap/index.html So.. The tension in the middle east, the cutting off of the man's head, and now this. Is this the end of the world as we know it? -Gel -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisof

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John mccosker
This has got to be one of the lowest times in the FIGHT against terrorism. Let me first say that this is disgusting and the SAS should be sent in to KILL these murderers, because that’s all they are. What are these forces doing, is this not what they are trained for, to infiltrate and eradicate th

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
Mike, If you are trying to categorise me you will have no end of trouble ;-) I speak for myself and my own opinions, and not for any group or category of _expression_. I have never understood the significance of the right, the left, centrists, moderates, liberals, conservatives and all those sil

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> This is why the western world is against these regimes and this Muslim > Sharia law to begin with. > This is the culture that cuts off people's hands for stealing and hold > public executions where women are stoned to death by children. > These aren't democracies, they are what most in the west w

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
But fanatical death cult praying for the marterdom of its members is not acceptable. http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200405/FOR20040507c.shtml >No problems. > >Muslim or Islamic are acceptable terms. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Harkins, Patrick
According to Islamic reformer Irshad Manji, the extremist values of Islamicists also permeate and pollute the mainstream. Her book: "The Trouble with Islam" makes for interesting reading, to say the least. She has a website with full references for her discussions in the book: http://www.muslim-ref

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
Mike's question was meant to imply a bias on my part against the US. It really had nothing to do with the beheadings. Otherwise the question was rhetorical. -Gel -Original Message- From: John Stanley Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:26 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Who are the

Re: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You seem to be missing the other part of the story. 6 Israeli soldiers were blown up and the average Arab on the street were grabbing body parts and tossing them around like toys. These are not Al Queda, these are your average Arabs. Ask the same people in Baghdad what they feel of the desicration

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Animals is a loaded term and this is a big question It's a good sign to me that we are talking about it. I think there are people with Manichean world views on either side of this conflict, and that fact that one of them is the American President is not a good sign, in my opinion. I agree with

Re: question

2004-05-12 Thread Jerry Johnson
All else being equal, I always try to steer my business (and the business of those I advise) to companies that support their user base or are active in their community. So yes, I would give an extra look to anyone who supports my interests. (For example, I subscribed to the AMC because they host

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
No problems. Muslim or Islamic are acceptable terms. As with any religion, there are the regular folks and the militant fundamentalists. Unfortunately unlike Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism which followed the monastic path, Islamic fundamentalism followed militancy. larry > -Original Me

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
No problems. As with any religion, there are the regular folks and the militant fundamentalists. Unfortunately unlike Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism which followed the monastic path, Islamic fundamentalism followed militancy. larry > -Original Message- > From: John Stanley [mailto:[

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
>>The US must hold itself and its allies to a higher standard than the terrorist and violent regimes it seeks to change. Agreed. And this US is holding itself to a higher standard by holding those who perpetrated the abuses accountable and by putting steps in place to ensure that it doesn't hap

RE: question

2004-05-12 Thread Harkins, Patrick
For me, the fact that they are dealing with Michael already says something good about them. And if he approves the articles being posted then I would give them a second look. Finally, the fact that they have an "open" approach to sharing information and are putting something back into the developer

Re: Do It For Your Country

2004-05-12 Thread Ben Doom
We could always just send them some more prisoners.  Seemed to work the first time. --BenD Angel Stewart wrote: > Gee, never thought Australia had a population demographic problem :-) > > > -Gel [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
>>There are no "normal" Islamicists. My bad, is the correct term Muslims? I apologize if offending anyone by this erroneous statement. Sorry ;-( >>Still no matter what that part of the world thinks, would we regain the same moral stance by acting as brutal as the previous regimes in the area?

Re: question

2004-05-12 Thread Ben Doom
Since Moonbow hosts all its own apps, a hosting company wouldn't be of interest to me anyway. However, I can see an opportunity for companies to sponsor individual articles (or suites thereof) within the site.  Coolfusion sponsoring a group of articles about mail, mail in CF, integrating IMS, e

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
>>There are no "normal" Islamicists. My bad, is the correct term Muslims? I apologize if offending anyone by this erroneous statement. Sorry ;-( >>Still no matter what that part of the world thinks, would we regain the same moral stance by acting as brutal as the previous regimes in the area?

RE: question

2004-05-12 Thread Ian Skinner
Without getting into marketing double speak, the sponsoring hosting company would need to spell out their service plans and why they are better then the next guy.  Generally I go with hosting companies that are in a certain price range that offers the most clearly explained benefits and limits of t

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
Still no matter what that part of the world thinks, would we regain the same moral stance by acting as brutal as the previous regimes in the area? I think that it would be far better to make sure that its an exception and ensure that it doesn't happen again. As a note, Islamicists refers to the ra

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
I am doing no such thing. I am in fact doing the opposite. -Gel -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are equating the US with other places that do not share its values. Don't. larry > -Original Message- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: question

2004-05-12 Thread Harkins, Patrick
I think removing the banner ads is a good call. If the articles provided were of good quality then I would look favourably on that company and be more likely to send business their way. -Patrick -Original Message- From: mdinowit Lets say that new and useful continual feature was to be add

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
Sorry to interject, but: >>I think that the US has a higher moral standard to follow. In principle I think you are right, but in reality we lost the moral high ground in the eyes of that part of the world ages ago. Now everything we do, even if it is nothing is the wrong thing. I am not saying

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
If statement of fact is perceived as an attack then so be it. The US must hold itself and its allies to a higher standard than the terrorist and violent regimes it seeks to change. The images displayed to the world represent a failure in the standard of morality that the US has set for itsel

RE: Do It For Your Country

2004-05-12 Thread Angel Stewart
Gee, never thought Australia had a population demographic problem :-) -Gel -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey "If you want to fix the aging demographic, you're just back to square after two. You make no net improvement," the former-lawyer and father-of-three said. Some wo

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
Gel, I think that you are wrong about this. What happens is far more endemic to people that a single culture. Rather it's a fundamental part of humanity. I provided a few links earlier that discussed the mechanisms involved. Read them, they might provide better understanding. That said, look at t

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread John Stanley
Somehow even this has turned into an attack on the US.way to rationalize man. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Who are the animals now? This is why the western world is against thes

Do It For Your Country

2004-05-12 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Okay, this one has to be posted... (watch for the URL wrap) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20040511/od_nm/children_d c CANBERRA (Reuters) - Australian couples owe it to their country to have more children and should get on with the job, the nation's treasurer said on Tuesday.

RE: Who are the animals now?

2004-05-12 Thread Lyons, Larry
Mike, I think that the US has a higher moral standard to follow. Al Queda is beyond anyone's pale, except their supporters. I was listening to an article on NPR this morning. They interviewed a number of people in the streets of Baghdad about it. They were as horrified over what happened as we hav

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