Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Al Qaeda wants to set up a global caliphate from Spain to Indonesia. And > does anyone really think they'll stop there? They seek global domination. > Good thing for them that the US invaded Iraq! Until then most Arabs thought they were psychos, but now they celebrate Bin Laden

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Have they made progress? I think they have. Judge for yourself. > Nope. The average Iraqi agrees with 100,000 dying a month. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > Should Iraq or any other country stop pumping oil, they would only harm > themselves > You assume that they would act as you do: rationally. Bin Laden, however, is not rational to your way of thinking. He's a millionaire that's always been perfectly happy living in caves as long

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Robert Munn
Iraq four years ago was a murderous dictatorship on the verge of wriggling its way out of sanctions, when they could re-start their nuclear program. Iraq today is a democracy divided, with a capital city and environs in the midst of a geographically limited civil war. Have they made progress? I t

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Robert Munn
Al Qaeda wants to set up a global caliphate from Spain to Indonesia. And does anyone really think they'll stop there? They seek global domination. On 1/13/07, Gruss wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > just as 9/11 was the declaration by Al Qaeda that the forces of global > > jihadism view us as their

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Robert Munn
I ceased a long time ago to care about the original reasons given for the invasion. I have always been in favor of the idea of overthrowing some dictators and giving freedom a chance. Glad to see you favor the dictators. On 1/13/07, Dana wrote: > > see, that's the comic book version, > > We are t

Re: Little Tango

2007-01-14 Thread Erika Walker
Congratulations :) ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archi

Re: Little Tango

2007-01-14 Thread Tony
em and i were just glad to see that your little wanker actually worked. good stuff. :) love ya kid! and mucho, Majore, GRANDE!!! congrats... uncle t On 1/14/07, Mike Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just realized I never shared the good news with everyone here, sorry > about > that! >

Little Tango

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Tangorre
I just realized I never shared the good news with everyone here, sorry about that! http://www.cfcoder.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/1/3/Baby-on-the-way Just when you thought you heard it all! :-) ~| Create robust enterprise, web

RE: this sucks

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Tangorre
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 62 and sunny. had to take out a light jacket today... 62 is like summer for me! It's 62 here in Rockville and I am sporting the shorts and t-shirt! :-) ~| Create robust en

RE: this sucks

2007-01-14 Thread Nick McClure
Hell, I'd still have to be at work after that. We had one of those a couple years ago, didn't even cancel classes at UK. Of course I don't have to go to work tomorrow because of MLK Jr. Day > -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 14

Dog Shit!

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Tangorre
Our dog (Herbie) has been sick for over a month now. He was in the hospital for a week and has been slowly recovering. He is on a slew of medications, most of which he is almost done taking. A couple of the medications give him the runs... no fun for anyone. When we take him out to do his business

Re: this sucks

2007-01-14 Thread Cameron Childress
62 and sunny. had to take out a light jacket today... On 1/14/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so, we've been having an ice rain for about 24 hours now. The power > just went out at 3:00, it's frigid outside. I swear I heard a > transformer blow right before the power went out

Re: No Better Summary On Iraq Than This

2007-01-14 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't think Rice is inarticulate, but she is having a hard time selling a lie that it doesn't sound like she believes. It all depends on what your definition of "escalation" is. I just love the fact that this administration berated Clinton for his parsing of he English language, when in fact eh

RE: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Nick McClure
But all of that assumes that those countries would in some way stop wanting to make boat loads of money by selling oil to the highest bidder. Should Iraq or any other country stop pumping oil, they would only harm themselves > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

this sucks

2007-01-14 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
so, we've been having an ice rain for about 24 hours now. The power just went out at 3:00, it's frigid outside. I swear I heard a transformer blow right before the power went out. It's just about dark and my only connection to the internet is using my cell phone as dial-up networking. Well, at

No Better Summary On Iraq Than This

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
Sen. Chuck Hagel on Iraq: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3wlMxxyKztw And Sec Rice's rambling attempt and defending the indefensible. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > How? How in the world does us invading Iraq change anything with the > Oil? > The TOP interest of the US (and, really, the World) is guaranteeing it's energy supply. No oil, little oil, or an oil embargo would throw not only the US economy into a tail spin but the world economy.

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > these enemies are going after the lands with the oil. Money is power. > * Bin Laden is a millionaire who lives in a cave. He doesn't care about oil or money - he cares about Islam. To finish his life's goal, he must eject the Saudi royal family from the penninsula and unite Mecca

RE: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Nick McClure
How? How in the world does us invading Iraq change anything with the Oil? Opec still exists, and will for some time. The oil is on an open market where the price is determined by supply and demand. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 1

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Sam
On 1/14/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1.) It's the theory of Bush administration that I agree with. > 2.) The US wants a centralized ME presence which, originally, was > Saudi. Now it's Iraq. > 3.) The US would respond from Iraqi bases if Saudi was attacked. No > change. We protect

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > We were in Saudi Arabia because of Iraq. Wouldn't that have made Iraq > Bin Laden's problem and not the US? Yet they were trying to work > together to destroy the US. Now that Saddam Hussein is gone we're no > longer in Saudi Arabia. Blows apart your whole theory. > 1.) It's the the

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > The weapons was the reason for invasion, Nope, oil was the reason. America doesn't give a crap about the Middle East except for the oil. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Loathe
Three in reality, as most people seem to forget that we fought in northern Africa. - Original Message - From: "William Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Re: 12% Support More Troops >> Then why did we fight Germany and leave

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Sam
Typically that analogy has nothing to do with the discussion. It's quit bizarre. On 1/14/07, Mike Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Here's an analogy: > > I want you out of your house so I wait until you can see me and then > > egg it. You come

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Sam
We were in Saudi Arabia because of Iraq. Wouldn't that have made Iraq Bin Laden's problem and not the US? Yet they were trying to work together to destroy the US. Now that Saddam Hussein is gone we're no longer in Saudi Arabia. Blows apart your whole theory. On 1/13/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Sam
We're aligned because the US found the oil and built the pipelines in Saudi Arabia. On 1/13/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, it's not fortunes per se, it's energy. The US allied itself > with Saudi Arabia because the ME was close to Russia during the Cold > War and the US was afr

Re: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Sam
Later != After On 1/13/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then why did we fight Germany and leave Japan for later? > > Do you have any understanding of how WWII was fought? > > Or were you just reading the Cliff Notes again? > > The war in the Pacific was not prosecuted *after* the w

RE: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Nick McClure
Who knew better? The French and the Russians who stood to loose business deals that went against the Sanctions? The same countries that gave us intel stating that Iraq still had and was making the banned weapons. The host of Democrats that voted in favor of it? The weapons was the reason for inva

RE: employer perception of online education

2007-01-14 Thread Nick McClure
I don't think so, online forums only work for those who participate, and actually read the posts, and can take along time to do so, just look at this list as an example. In the class room an instructor can call on students that aren't actively participating in the current topic, and everybody hear

RE: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Tangorre
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Here's an analogy: > I want you out of your house so I wait until you can see me and then > egg it. You come out with 5 of your buddies to beat the crap out of > me. I run across the street into the woods and kick over a massive bee > hive. You foll

RE: 12% Support More Troops

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Tangorre
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Had Iraqis never been able to hold elections or form a government, we > would not still be in Iraq. But they did both- against a backdrop of > brutal violence. Should we now abandon them when they have come so far? Come so far? Are you serious? The