Re: O. M. G.

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
I think so many people are willing to accept Palin because Bush has set the bar so low. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously. Give me a show of hands. Who thinks this lady is > qualified to be president? ~

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Gruss wrote: > Look, Robert. If I voted twice for a guy who, after 8 years: > > But you've got to snap out of it. It's over. The guy's a fool and a > failure. > Bush is history. Move on - dot org, :-) > > You've got an opportunity to reset here. It's not abou

O. M. G.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
The fecking lady doesn't even read the news. Asked what newspapers and magazines she reads, Palin - a journalism major in college - could not name one publication. "I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media," she said. Couric responded, "What, speci

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Remember the long list of things the Bush Administration tried to do? Nope, I don't remember a single thing. Look, Robert. If I voted twice for a guy who, after 8 years: * Left 2 ongoing wars no closer to the end than when he started that've killed 5000 americans and wounded 5

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > I guess you missed this quote from Wikipedia: > > "Together they [Fannie and Freddie] have more than half of the $1 trillion > of Alt-A mortgages." > (1.) forgot that wikipedia is omnipotent. (2.) Alt-a is not just subprime. (3.) The GSEs reported on June 30th that they held $

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Gruss wrote: > > > What bills did Bush propose to solve that problem you perceive? > Remember the long list of things the Bush Administration tried to do? We went over that territory already, including the 2005 Senate bill that McCain co-sponsored. ~

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > In other words, nine years ago the NYTimes was already warning that the > course of action that Democrats pushed Fannie and Freddie into pursuing > could lead to a meltdown. Nine years! > Oo! Good! So Bush knew about it 9 years ago! Good, good. Ok, and for 6 years, he control

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Gruss wrote: > > So rather than repeat what Rush has told you, just think it through > and ask basic questions: > For the eighteenth time, I don't listen to, read, or watch Rush Limbaugh, and I never have. > Now. If I follow your own numbers, both freddie and f

Re: anyone seen this Obama kids video?

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Using kids for this kind of stuff is just wrong, it looks like a Communist > Youth Party rally. If I wanted to see a communist rally I'd just watch McCain lobby congress to have the government take over an entire sector of our economy. Luckily he has very little pull, even with

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Securities backed by mortgages. Duh. > I guess you're not getting it and I don't blame you because it's far from clear for anyone. The point is, however, that the misinformation is flying fast and furious and you're repeating it. So rather than repeat what Rush has told you, ju

Re: DOS Help

2008-09-30 Thread Mark Henderson
Erika L. Walker wrote: > Well by golly by gosh Mark! I'm so sorry I missed you! You lurkers will be > the death of me. > > How about a nice jumbo batch of banana walnuts muffins baked with whole > grains and topped with cream cheese? > > Glad to have ya around ... > > E with a K > I would've re

Re: anyone seen this Obama kids video?

2008-09-30 Thread Sam
Produced by the fair and balanced Jeff Zucker President & CEO of NBC Universal On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using kids for this kind of stuff is just wrong, it looks like a Communist > Youth Party rally. Creepy. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0x

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Sam
I remember it a little different. They both supported the bailout. McCain called several republicans, met with some and changed a few votes. Obama went to an Obama rally, called no one and sent out a press release saying he deserved credit for the bailout and McCain should get no credit. http://ww

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and if they can? Personally, I think the media called a spade a spade. SNL Skit - Seth Meyers Channeling Gruss: Let me break it down for you like this... Imagine that the market is a spade and that spade is actually a blueberr

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
the sham was the democratic contention that there ever was a deal. On 9/30/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He has commented that you can get a lot more done when the cameras are > off. And appears to be correct, because trhe deal fell apaprt when > Mccain turf ed in tnot a photo op > > On Tu

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
and if they can? Personally, I think the media called a spade a spade. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, and calling the bill a bailout was the major factor in the > defeat. I hate media buzzwords almost as much as computer industry > buzzwords. I have n

RE: Tomato (Was: My Router went Vegitarian)

2008-09-30 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:53 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Tomato (Was: My Router went Vegitarian) > > Jim- > > After a day of being offline due to some kinda problem at the > BellSouth/AT&T > CO, I st

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
He has commented that you can get a lot more done when the cameras are off. And appears to be correct, because trhe deal fell apaprt when Mccain turf ed in tnot a photo op On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> And once again, where is Obama in a

anyone seen this Obama kids video?

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
Using kids for this kind of stuff is just wrong, it looks like a Communist Youth Party rally. Creepy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to d

The great dog escape!

2008-09-30 Thread Vivec
http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/animals/The_Great_Dog_Escape/ It's so cute the way he goes back for the others :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
One minute you try to exonerate Fannie and Freddie, who bear direct responsibility for this mess, and the next minute you want to blame it all on Bush. You are the one who isn't thinking clearly. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Gruss wrote: > > > Derivatives caused the problem and it's possible

Tomato (Was: My Router went Vegitarian)

2008-09-30 Thread Cameron Childress
Jim- After a day of being offline due to some kinda problem at the BellSouth/AT&T CO, I started tinkering with my network and just tried Tomato. It's very cool. I like it alot and probably wouldn't have thought to look for it if you hadn't posted about it. I'd been using the Sveasoft Alchemy ki

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Gruss wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > That is a dodge. Fannie and Freddie were holding guarantees on more than > > $500 billion in Alt-A mortgages as of 2007. They didn't actually lend the > > money themselves, oh no, but they guarantees the loans. Those guarantees,

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
Oh, never mind, I found Barack Obama hiding behind Nancy Pelosi's skirt. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Gruss wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > And once again, where is Obama in all this mess? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > And once again, where is Obama in all this mess? Are we in a crisis? Do we need any action? Because most of your President's party doesn't think so. And your President and your candidate couldn't even get 1/3 of their party to support them. McCain doesn't seem to be able to l

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jake wrote: > That is incorrect. From Freddie Mac's website: > > http://www.freddiemac.com/news/archives/corporate/2007/20070227_subprimelend > ing.html > This is why I hate this crap. Word games. Lobbyists. et al. They can't buy sub-prime. These are securities. ~~

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > That is a dodge. Fannie and Freddie were holding guarantees on more than > $500 billion in Alt-A mortgages as of 2007. They didn't actually lend the > money themselves, oh no, but they guarantees the loans. Those guarantees, as > we now know, were worthless. SECURITIES!! NOT LO

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > That is a dodge. Fannie and Freddie were holding guarantees on more than > $500 billion in Alt-A mortgages as of 2007. Here's the thing, we can argue the term "sub-prime" all day. The bottom line is, add it up. $500B Fine. Double it. $1T. Let's say they're ALL bad. So then

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
exactly. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Low income does not always equal not creditworthy. I have a friend > who has been without a full time job for 5 years, but he pays his > bills on time every month, and his credit score is over 800. ~~~

Re: I think this is cheating...

2008-09-30 Thread Andrew Scott
I think from a technicality side of it... The pieces made one picture, the picture just happened to be a lot of smaller pictures. But the puzzle was joined by the same pieces. Agreed a harder picture would have been better. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wr

RE: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Jacob
Last year, FM and FM had $160 billion dollars in sub prime mortgages... http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/30/business/bxprime-web.php ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
That is a dodge. Fannie and Freddie were holding guarantees on more than $500 billion in Alt-A mortgages as of 2007. They didn't actually lend the money themselves, oh no, but they guarantees the loans. Those guarantees, as we now know, were worthless. Fannie and Feddie opened up the vaults at the

RE: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Jacob
"Fannie & Freddie are prevented by law from making or buying sub-prime loans." That is incorrect. From Freddie Mac's website: http://www.freddiemac.com/news/archives/corporate/2007/20070227_subprimelend ing.html They have bought subprime loans. And, they still do to this day except for New York

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jake wrote: > "Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been > under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand > mortgage loans among low and moderate income people All of this is true, but the low-income loans are NOT sub-prime loans, they are lo

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
Low income does not always equal not creditworthy. I have a friend who has been without a full time job for 5 years, but he pays his bills on time every month, and his credit score is over 800. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no, I have been hearing that in the

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
and that is a positive. At least you are thinking about it. I'm a little disappointed in some of the stuff I am hearing from the dems, myself (are they so used to being called the big spending party that they are for spending for the sake of spending?). But yes, interesting times... > Dunno who to

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
Warren Buffett is doing pretty good in the sub-prime market. Foreclosures at his company are actually down this year. So perhaps the problems are with the lenders and not the borrowers. It's just so easy to scapegoat the poor. http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/10/news/newsmakers/buffett_clayton.fortu

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > > Fannie & Freddie are prevented by law from making or buying sub-prime loans. > Ah, I've now read the Wiki and it's horribly misleading. Fannie and Freddie are prevented by law from buying or guaranteeing sub-prime. As the wiki states they were able to bend the rules to buy "safe

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
no, I have been hearing that in the past week but that is BS. The community reinvestment act has been around for years. I know I cited it in an argument with a bank manager when I was turned down for a loan oh gee... I don't remember what year but I can tell you that Reagan was president. And the b

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
yes I have seen that. On the day it was bought out. No information -- they do not exist here. I liked them when I was a customer but thta was 1999. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else get the WaMu Free checking add? > > Sam wrote: >> I found the video Y

Re: Now this is a *REALLY* big number.

2008-09-30 Thread denstar
I don't think I'd like math, if I didn't like cryptography. G.E.B., E.G.B. helped me love math again too. Stupid 4th grade "you're gifted, you don't need instructions" teacher. :-)P (Just kidding Mr. B, I'm over it. Really. I *like* math now, so, pt!) I still suck at it, but it's freakis

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > The Democrats forced Fannie and Freddie to take on more and more > speculative debt. The answer to my question - what percentage of subprime loans did Fannie & Freddie make - is, of course, 0%. None. Fannie & Freddie are prevented by law from making or buying sub-prime loans.

RE: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Jacob
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F9 58260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all "The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to i

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Sam
Face it Bush screwed up: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Poorly thought-out government policy created the conditions for this mess. > Sure, the markets did the actual damage- lending money to people who > couldn'

anyone want a .net job in Anchorage? or SF?

2008-09-30 Thread Beth Fleischer
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Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
And once again, where is Obama in all this mess? If this is such a national crisis, why isn't he out in front on this issue? We're getting a preview of what his handling of the crisis will be like if he gets elected, and so far, it looks to me like we're still in the commercials, because the guy is

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
Poorly thought-out government policy created the conditions for this mess. Sure, the markets did the actual damage- lending money to people who couldn't afford it, but those loans would never have been approved under the old rules. The Democrats forced Fannie and Freddie to take on more and more sp

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Gruss' explanation that Fannie and Freddie didn't make the loans is just an > excuse. If you're right, then you should easily be able to tell us what percentage of the subprime loans Fannie and Freddie made to subprime lenders? So, tell us. Give us the numbers. What percentage

Re: I think this is cheating...

2008-09-30 Thread Erika L. Walker
I might be convinced to agree with that - but initially - I'm with Ian ... On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I think this would only really count if all 4000+ puzzles had all their > pieces dumped into one single large bin, mixed together, and then sta

Re: I think this is cheating...

2008-09-30 Thread Cameron Childress
I think this would only really count if all 4000+ puzzles had all their pieces dumped into one single large bin, mixed together, and then started from there. -Cameron On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080930/

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
The points aren't dollars, they are share value. The value of a stock is what someone will pay for it, not hard currency. Unless someone sold the shares while the market was down, either to cover a margin call, or for panicked stupidity, they didn't lose a penny. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:25 PM,

Re: Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
The credit crisis in the U.S. has caused a global shortage of dollars in credit markets. In a world economy that is largely based on the U.S. dollar, the lack of dollars changing hands (liquidity) creates a huge problem, so everyone is paying a huge premium to get the dollars that are changing hand

Re: DOS Help

2008-09-30 Thread Erika L. Walker
Well by golly by gosh Mark! I'm so sorry I missed you! You lurkers will be the death of me. How about a nice jumbo batch of banana walnuts muffins baked with whole grains and topped with cream cheese? Glad to have ya around ... E with a K On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Mark Henderson <[EMAIL

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
What Democrats really said was, "Start lending more money to people who can't afford it or pay huge penalties." So what did Fannie and Freddie do? Loosen the purse strings. Gruss' explanation that Fannie and Freddie didn't make the loans is just an excuse. They were specifically directed by Democr

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Loathe
Anyone else get the WaMu Free checking add? Sam wrote: > I found the video Youtube banned. > > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wxmr_burning-down-the-house-what-caused_news > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> gMoney wrote: >>> That's an awesome

I think this is cheating...

2008-09-30 Thread Ian Skinner
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080930/D93H7QE00.html *German company claims puzzle is world's biggest *RAVENSBURG, Germany (AP) - Some 15,000 enthusiasts have assembled the world's largest jigsaw puzzle in the southern German town of Ravensburg, Europe's biggest puzzle maker

RE: Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread Jacob
That was for the overnight LIBOR. Most ARMs are tied to the 1 year LIBOR. Had two years ago. In a fixed one now. ;-) -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:47 AM To: cf-community Subject: Wow - Total Anarchy! Sept. 30 (Bloombe

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Sam
I found the video Youtube banned. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6wxmr_burning-down-the-house-what-caused_news On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> gMoney wrote: >> That's an awesomely simple explanation of how both parties ideologies >> contributed to t

Re: DOS Help

2008-09-30 Thread Mark Henderson
Tony wrote: > nahhh not too much anymore... > > i prefer the crazies here, and we get just > as much cf work done :) hahahahha > > coldfuckin around maybe ! > See now there's a language I can relate to! Erika L. Walker wrote: > Gah! who are you! > > ** runs around looking for Gel ** > We have

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
I see where you are coming from, but I don't necessarily agree. Those "points" are millions of dollars. Percentage of the whole is important, but the total dollar amount lost is also tres important. In 1927, a much smaller part of the overall economy was listed in the market. Even 1987 had less p

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Judah McAuley
No, I wanted to chuck Obama out for the FISA bill. As for the bailout, 3/5ths of the Oregon delegation voted no, 2/5ths voted yes. I have respect for representatives who came down on both sides of it. Overall, I'm tentatively glad it failed. I want to see something more thoughtful and creative come

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
Yeah, and calling the bill a bailout was the major factor in the defeat. I hate media buzzwords almost as much as computer industry buzzwords. I have nasty habit of looking at someone who uses them and saying "spell it and define it" On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PR

Re: Caption Contest

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Lyons
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Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh finally a new job

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Lyons
>Great news. I got new job too. I'm really enjoying it. > Same here, no more mucking about with the CF equivalent of stone arrowheads and flint knives. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic rel

Re: Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivec wrote: > What does all that mean in english. > Well ... if you consider all of the ... AHHH! `Demand for liquidity trumps the fundamentals. Fundamentally, the U.S. is awful, and Europe is awful. Fundamentals are irrelevant today.'' It means this is totally crazy. uncharted. there

Re: HTML5

2008-09-30 Thread Crow T. Robot
Best comment: "Sweet, can't wait to start coding up my HTML 5 sites in PERL 6." On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > i haven't read the article... but wasn't HTML itself supposed to be > deprecated in favor of XHTML? i thought HTML was effectively EOL'd?

Re: Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread G Money
glad i wasn't the only one. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What does all that mean in english. > > 2008/9/30 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell the most against the dollar > > since the introduction of the shared cur

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread G Money
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you reconcile that Obama is strongly in favor of passing the > bailout? > How does anyone against the bill reconcile the fact that the candidates are > both for it? > > So do you want to chuck Obama out, just like you

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just found this graphic on a CNN site. It has the info you want. > > > http://i.l.cnn.net/money/2008/09/30/markets/markets_newyork/dow_tumble_chart_today.jpg > > Yesterday's fall doesn't even rank in the top 10 for perce

Re: Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread G Money
I didn't understand a single word of that On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell the most against the dollar > since the introduction of the shared currency in 1999 > > Banks are being squeezed amid a surge in borrowi

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice! Bush has 6 of the top 10 biggest point drops in history. > > There are still 4 months to get a few more of those last remaining 4. > > (Clinton has 3, Reagan has 1) Yes, this makes total sense, since Bush is most r

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Point drops are basically meaningless in historical comparisons. The > 1929 market couldn't have had a 777 point drop, because the DOW in > 1929 was at less than 400 points. > Yes, but this doesn't keep the media from repeati

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
How do you reconcile that Obama is strongly in favor of passing the bailout? How does anyone against the bill reconcile the fact that the candidates are both for it? So do you want to chuck Obama out, just like you want to chuck out everyone who voted for the plan? On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:11

Re: Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread Vivec
What does all that mean in english. 2008/9/30 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell the most against the dollar > since the introduction of the shared currency in 1999 > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

Re: HTML5

2008-09-30 Thread Erika L. Walker
I sure wish it were funny. All I need now is a client to get a hold of some of this stuff and *insist* on using for their website! On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I kept reading to see when the joke was going to get mentionedno such > luck. > > LOL,

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
More geeky than nerdy, but yeah. I speed read so I have an advantage. Family member works for the media and frequently takes advantage of my speed-reading ability and accounting knowledge to give a quick summary of lengthy documents. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: HTML5

2008-09-30 Thread Charlie Griefer
i haven't read the article... but wasn't HTML itself supposed to be deprecated in favor of XHTML? i thought HTML was effectively EOL'd? On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I kept reading to see when the joke was going to get mentionedno such > luck. >

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Yer fudging. The major factor in decreased violence is the surge.even > the insurgents have told us that. > Nope. Now I don't want to start the surge debate again, but here's what I do know: * As troops approach infinity violence shrinks to zero. The problem is, we didn't

Re: Holbrooke's Take

2008-09-30 Thread Vivec
hear hear..*clap* *clap*. And which one would America choose? YEEHAW Bomb bomb bomb bomb IRan! Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran! everytime I see that clip it makes me chuckle ^_^. 2008/9/30 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Pretty much sums up my thought: > ---

Re: HTML5

2008-09-30 Thread Crow T. Robot
I kept reading to see when the joke was going to get mentionedno such luck. LOL, this is like an Onion article. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Anyone read up on HTML 5? > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/ > > 2022 seems an AWFULL

Wow - Total Anarchy!

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The euro fell the most against the dollar since the introduction of the shared currency in 1999 Banks are being squeezed amid a surge in borrowing costs as lenders hoard cash on concern more financial institutions will fail. The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, tha

Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh finally a new job

2008-09-30 Thread Beth Fleischer
> Congrats Beth. now for some imaginative revenge, imagine you lying, > passive aggressive, lazy boss with a couple of >ferrets hanging off her > lips. LOL. Weirdly enough, I don't HATE her, I just dont' think shes a good boss for me. Shes personally a VERY nice lady.

Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh finally a new job

2008-09-30 Thread Beth Fleischer
> Word of caution, be cool until then, and don't burn the bridge during your > escape. You probably know that already, but just in case... Absolutely, I told the lying boss that I am leaving because I think the job would be better served by someone willing to travel.

Re: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh finally a new job

2008-09-30 Thread Beth Fleischer
> This is one is very different. Different dev environment, database, > version control, etc.. I'm neck deep in learning new stuff. But I > cut my commute to less 10 miles from more than 50 so that rocks. That does rock. And learning new stuff rocks too. ~

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread G Money
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, and I don't mean to be a chicken little here, but you're > assuming that spending the money will have an effect. Well that's true. I didn't think the Surge would work, even at the modest goal of lessening violence. A

Holbrooke's Take

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Pretty much sums up my thought: --- Friday's unique free-form debate format offered the best insights so far into the vast differences, values and style of Barack Obama and John McCain, and how they would approach the challenges that only a president can decide. It was the stunning

HTML5

2008-09-30 Thread Erika L. Walker
Anyone read up on HTML 5? http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/ 2022 seems an AWFULLY far off timeframe in terms of the internet. I thought we all moved a bit faster than that? http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/115956 http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/HTML_5_Won_t_Be_Ready_Unti

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
Point drops are basically meaningless in historical comparisons. The 1929 market couldn't have had a 777 point drop, because the DOW in 1929 was at less than 400 points. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice! Bush has 6 of the top 10 biggest point drop

Re: this is a good read.

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > That's an awesomely simple explanation of how both parties ideologies > contributed to this mess. > > Republicans: "De-regulate!" > Democrats: "Please start lending to people who can't afford it!" > > Result? > The "it was frannies fault" argument is BS. They didn't make the loa

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Vivec
*humph* nerd. ;-P 2008/9/30 Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I did. Read and provided a summary analysis for a couple of my clients. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get t

Re: which Bill is this ...

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Cam wrote: > That accelerates the export of certain jobs. But that could be a good thing if they're the jobs we don't want anyway. It's all part of a larger and broader strategic analysis that needs to be done and, given McCain's lurching and inarticulate description of the problem, I'm CERTAIN

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > I'm sure the people that are still alive today in Iraq thanks to "the surge" > are pretty happy that we addressed the "symptom". What will the people who > are economically destroyed think about our refusal to address our own > symptoms? > Well, and I don't mean to be a chicken l

Re: which Bill is this ...

2008-09-30 Thread Dana
problem though is that the industry 1) has a history of saying this stuff and then not doing it 2) is privately owned. They should be investing in their own infrastructure. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: House rejects Bailout

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
I did. Read and provided a summary analysis for a couple of my clients. On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:12 AM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone actually read the bill ( > http://www.c-span.org/pdf/finance_bill_092808.pdf). > At 110 page

Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
Nice! Bush has 6 of the top 10 biggest point drops in history. There are still 4 months to get a few more of those last remaining 4. (Clinton has 3, Reagan has 1) On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just found this graphic on a CNN site. It has the info

Re: which Bill is this ...

2008-09-30 Thread Maureen
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > spending on auto makers -- bad. This is infrastructure but it is > privately owned, and the people who own it tend not to follow through > on their promises. Supposedly this is to be spend on improving fuel > economy but nobody is

Love the underwater archealogy: "Mardi Gras" ship video

2008-09-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
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Re: List of Large Percentage Drops for Dow?

2008-09-30 Thread Judah McAuley
I just found this graphic on a CNN site. It has the info you want. http://i.l.cnn.net/money/2008/09/30/markets/markets_newyork/dow_tumble_chart_today.jpg Yesterday's fall doesn't even rank in the top 10 for percentage drops. But a bunch of those should really be grouped together as they occured d

Re: another caption contest

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Lyons
>> http://www.signonsandiego.com/teaserimages/080929housedems.jpg > word balloon for the guy on the end at the right. "Congressman if you don't get your hand off my ass I'm going to scream!" ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 i

Re: Prime Land For Sale

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Lyons
>> gMoney wrote: >> What's the difference between western Kansas and Mars? Nothing, except Mars >> has more democrats. >> > >and fewer puppy mills. and a higher average IQ (fewer creatinists and ID'ers there). ~| Adobe® ColdFusi

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