Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
I want to succeed from the Union! On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Gruss wrote: > >gg wrote: > stupid auto spell checker ruins all the good jokes. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic releas

Re: McCain's Questionable Associations

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
lol, cheesy On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Gruss wrote: > (1.) How about when McCain was the keynote speaker at a domestic > terrorist rally? > > You know where Marilyn Shannon, a 2008 McCain delegate, opened with a > prayer in praise of a woman who shot a Navy veteran and bombed > multiple do

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
She's a feminist. You know she's not going to give credit (or power) to her husband. ;-) On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> The report actually found that her husband pushed to get Wooten fired > > That Todd. You'd think with all the time

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
Timothy McVeigh was executed for murder, not patriotism. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> As for hating America, I would suggest that disagreeing with the >> government when they are as clearly wrong a

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
No, that bunch being the crooks and liars that Nixon surrounded himself with, Agnew, Hoover, John Mitchell, G. Gordon Liddy, etc.. Also, invoking Lincoln..I'm not a fan. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Maureen wrote: >

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
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Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > The report actually found that her husband pushed to get Wooten fired That Todd. You'd think with all the time he was spending for the better part of 2 decades trying to get Alaska to succeed from the United States he wouldn't have time to abuse power. But I guess when Ms. Pali

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Maureen wrote: > Perhaps. But no more of a scumbag than Hoover, Nixon and the rest of > that bunch, who did more harm to this country and our freedoms with > their lies and corruption than all the members of the anti-war > movement combined. > "That bunch" bein

McCain's Questionable Associations

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Obama's error is in associating with a scumbag who used terror to try and > influence the politics of our country. It is an error of judgment, Yes, Palmer invited him to her retirement party and he attended at her request. But, hey, as long as we're telling candidate stories, ho

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
Perhaps. But no more of a scumbag than Hoover, Nixon and the rest of that bunch, who did more harm to this country and our freedoms with their lies and corruption than all the members of the anti-war movement combined. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
And what did Ayers say when he left the court? "Guilty as hell, free as a bird." Like I said, scumbag. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Maureen wrote: > You mean this technicality? > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
You mean this technicality? In the Final Report of the Select Committee COINTELPRO was castigated in no uncertain terms: "Many of the techniques used would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all of the targets had been involved in violent activity, but COINTELPRO went far beyond t

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > Maybe Ken Starr can find it. LOL bring back Ken Starr! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.dou

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
And Bill Ayers got off on a technicality, or his ass would be history, too. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Maureen wrote: > Timothy McVeigh was executed for murder, not patriotism. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the m

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gruss wrote: > > It was a retirement party for her. And she brought a friend to > introduce him. It was nothing either Obama OR Ayers decided. Exactly. She brought along Obama to introduce him as her hand-picked replacement. Why must you continue to lie about

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monegan specifically said she never pressured him to fire Wooten. Todd Palin > testified that Sarah Palin told him at one point to "drop it" in regards to > Wooten. Again, where is the evidence? Maybe Ken Starr can find it

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Maureen wrote: > As for hating America, I would suggest that disagreeing with the > government when they are as clearly wrong as they were about Vietnam > was an act of patriotism. I don't agree with Ayers' tactics, but I > doubt he was any more an enemy of the

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Beth wrote: > > Its been very clear from the beginning that Sarah also put pressure on > Monegan - if you search the ADN she was very up front about it in the > beginning- but she refused to testify and therefore its not included in the > report. > Monegan speci

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
He and McCain are politicians. Hanging out with scumbags is part of the job description. As for hating America, I would suggest that disagreeing with the government when they are as clearly wrong as they were about Vietnam was an act of patriotism. I don't agree with Ayers' tactics, but I doubt

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > That's a lie of dissimulation. The event was Obama's political coming out > party, as Palmer herself said. False. The event was for Palmer and it wasn't until after the event was planned that Obama was invited and he wasn't invited by Ayers he was invited by Palmer since she had

Re: Obama secretly tried to influence Iraqi government

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Gruss wrote: > > * During the meeting, Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in > private conversations that the president shouldn't be allowed to keep > the U.S. military in Iraq without congressional approval. > In other words, he tried to subvert the po

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Beth In Alaska
> The report actually found that her husband pushed to get Wooten fired, and > the only thing they could actually find to draw this conclusion is that > she > did not stop him from doing that. That's really thin. Like watered-down > cabbage soup. Its been very clear from the beginning that Sarah

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
Obama's error is in associating with a scumbag who used terror to try and influence the politics of our country. It is an error of judgment, which is the real issue here. For someone who claims to be a healer, post-partisan, etc. he has sure made a habit of hanging out with scumbags and America-hat

Re: Obama secretly tried to influence Iraqi government

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/ > Finally you're on Obama's side! I agree with you that he's a respected, but discrete, World leader. Like from the article you posted: * Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari requested the meeting

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Gruss wrote: > > Ayers didn't found the charity, Ambassador Annenberg did. And she > funded it. She approved Ayers as chair. > My mistake, he was merely the chair of the charity. > Obama was invited by other board members, not Ayers, based on his work > for ot

Re: Obama secretly tried to influence Iraqi government

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
Old news, questionable source, and we've already debated it. Yawn!! On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
Scoreboard!! If you're going to use that time frame to define the associations as opposed to current time, I reiterate: Obama was eight years old. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Gruss wrote: > >> >> So how does McCain e

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> Only if you define terrorist as one who uses terror to change a >> political agenda, and not in the generic sense of labeling anyone who >> disagrees with you are a terrori

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > ROTFL, randomly, I love it, you are too funny. Ayers founded the charity and > put Obama on the board. But that's just random chance. He was Obama's > political sponsor for the beginning of his career, Again, Robert, those are 2 out-and-out lies. You're lying. You're a liar. A

Obama secretly tried to influence Iraqi government

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
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Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Gruss wrote: > > So how does McCain explain his association to Ayers? > Let's see- that he was a POW being tortured by the North Vietnamese while Ayers was terrorizing America. ~| Adobe® ColdFu

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > Only if you define terrorist as one who uses terror to change a > political agenda, and not in the generic sense of labeling anyone who > disagrees with you are a terrorist. > You mean like blowing up the Capitol building to force America to g

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even more interesting is who founded the charity though: Ambassador > Annenberg, a Reagan appointee and McCain donor. > > So how does McCain explain his association to Ayers? Probably the same way he explains his relationshi

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Gruss wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > A domestic terrorist was Obama's business associate > > No, they were both were randomly on a charity board together. Your > lies are amusing, but dishonorable. ROTFL, randomly, I love it, you are too funny. Ayers founded the c

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > A domestic terrorist was Obama's business associate No, they were both were randomly on a charity board together. Your lies are amusing, but dishonorable. Showing up for a charity gig is NOT a business associate. You're logic is basically equivalent to showing up at a habitat

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> The term domestic terrorist is a term used to condemn anyone whose >> politics differ from those you wish to see in power. I've heard it >> used against environmentalists,

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Maureen wrote: > The term domestic terrorist is a term used to condemn anyone whose > politics differ from those you wish to see in power. I've heard it > used against environmentalists, anti-war protesters and numerous > others who dare to speak out against the cu

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Maureen wrote: > If there was zero evidence, on what basis did the committee determine > she abused power? On the basis of not looking like morons for making big promises for a corruption scandal and then not delivering the goods. > Oh, and those videos of her

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
If there was zero evidence, on what basis did the committee determine she abused power? Oh, and those videos of her making public statements about the guy she fired. No evidence there, right? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zero evidence. Zero. Let me re

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
The term domestic terrorist is a term used to condemn anyone whose politics differ from those you wish to see in power. I've heard it used against environmentalists, anti-war protesters and numerous others who dare to speak out against the current rulers. Obama was eight years old when Ayers commi

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
Zero evidence. Zero. Let me repeat that. Zero. Nada. Zippo. Zilch. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > What matters is that she was so blissfully ignorant of the ethics of > governing that she doesn't feel she did anything wrong. She wasn't > even aware she was abusing her power,

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
What matters is that she was so blissfully ignorant of the ethics of governing that she doesn't feel she did anything wrong. She wasn't even aware she was abusing her power, she was just throwing her weight around. And while that might not matter much in dealing with employees as governor of a sm

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
That is a load of crap. Wright was his pastor and mentor for 20 years. An anti-American bigot was Obama's pastor for 20 years. A domestic terrorist was Obama's business associate, political sponsor, and colleague for years. Years. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Maureen wrote: > None of thes

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
Way to buy into the liberal line. Moneghan was a turd, according to all reports. He ignored her instructions and disagreed with her in public. I would have shitcanned his ass too. Or are you talking about Wooten, who still has his job? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Judah wrote: > Honestly it

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
None of these accusations amount to a hill of beans, and as has been pointed out here repeatedly, McCain is equally as culpable for his associations. The issues that count for me are religion freedom, civil liberties, economic stability, the war in Iraq, protecting the environment. Some vague as

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Judah McAuley
Honestly it makes no real difference to me if she is an unethical sleazebag who uses the power of a public office to persecute her enemies or if she is a criminally unethical sleazebag who uses the power of public office to persecute her enemies. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Robert Munn <[EM

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Gruss wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > If there was any actual evidence of any actual wrongdoing, there would be > > criminal charges. End of story. > > > > Don't be so impatient. The commission JUST found her in violation of state > law. > The reports already said

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Scott Stroz
I never claimed your hypothesis was not feasible. I am just not a big fan of coincidence. Obama just happened to attend church where the pastor gave sermons that were'incendiary' ( Obama's own description of Wright's words )? Obama just happened to have his 'coming out party' at the hosue of a do

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > If there was any actual evidence of any actual wrongdoing, there would be > criminal charges. End of story. > Don't be so impatient. The commission JUST found her in violation of state law. Now it will up to the state's attorney to files charges. If the office is ethical. ~~~

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Gruss wrote: You disagree with the commission. I think you don't have to get much > farther with the analysis than to see just how involved Mr. Palin was > in state business. > > That alone is evidence enough that it was personal. > If there was any actual eviden

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Gruss wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > I can't wait to hear the justification for a totally unilateral invasion > of > > another country that is at least nominally our ally. > > > I don't hear the words "United Nations" in there anywhere. ~~~

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > I can't wait to hear the justification for a totally unilateral invasion of > another country that is at least nominally our ally. > It's because there are WMD there and we can't wait for a mushroom cloud to act. Plus the whole gig will be paid for with oil profits. Oh, and it'

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > So she can shoot him? Isn't that what government-speak for "remove" means? > He's a union employee so he can't be fired. > She didn't benefit personally. You disagree with the commission. I think you don't have to get much farther with the analysis than to see just how involve

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
"If they're not with us, they're against us" - GWB If they're harboring OBL, they certainly aren't with us. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't wait to hear the justification for a totally unilateral invasion of > another country that is at least nom

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Gruss wrote: > WRONG! She is within her rights to "remove" him (not fire), and not > for any reason. So she can shoot him? Isn't that what government-speak for "remove" means? > She was found specifically in violation of Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) > of the Al

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
I can't wait to hear the justification for a totally unilateral invasion of another country that is at least nominally our ally. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If the location of Bin Laden was known, the sitting President should > absolutely send troops after him. I wouldn't

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > The report also found that she was completely within her rights as Governor > to fire Moneghan for any reason or no reason at all. WRONG! She is within her rights to "remove" him (not fire), and not for any reason. She was found specifically in violation of Alaska Statute 39.52

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
ok, when I start typing like that, it's my last post for the day. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Robert wrote: > I disagree. They be be good prosecutors > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
I disagree. They be be good prosecutors doing their jobs and get fired. That is a power of the Presidency. It goes for Democrats and Republicans alike. What we have is an attempt by the opposition in the Legislative branch of government to abridge the powers of the Executive branch. The issue of po

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
Only congress can raise or lower taxes. The most a president can do is request that they do so. If the location of Bin Laden was known, the sitting President should absolutely send troops after him. I wouldn't care if he was having lunch with Queen of England. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:51 PM,

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > 1. Obama has promised Dude. Aren't you getting it? Pre-election policy debate are, in the best of times, minimally useful. In the midst of a historic economic meltdown - with 2 wars going - they are outright silly. I'm dumbfounded as to why you'd even attempt to discuss any o

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
he said that IF Pakistan could not or would not that taking bin Laden out with American troops was an option. This is not the same as an invasion and also contains a very imporant qualifier -- if Pakistan cannot or will not. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Gruss wrote: And that's the public effort. The non-public effort has been WAY > worse. Which is exactly why so many Republicans are essentially > telling McCain to knock it off. > > In short, they decided to play with fire: racism, hatred, fear, doubt, > and unce

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
Saying it again will not make it so. Not if he is firing them for trying to do their job he cannot. And this is true no matter who wins btw. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The next President has the power to fire any and all US Attorneys and select > his

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > McCain very specifically said he didn't approve of that stuff and respected > Obama. So who is pushing the politics of division, eh? > McCain. Let's just be blunt for a moment. McCain's campaign purposely decided to go negative because he was sinking in the polls. McCain, Pali

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
1. Obama has promised to let the Bush tax cuts expire. Taxes will go up. 2. He has said specifically, very specifically, that he will send the military into Pakistan to get Bin Laden. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Dana wrote: > no. Saying it again will not make it so.

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
The next President has the power to fire any and all US Attorneys and select his own. Do you agree? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Dana wrote: > this all sounds a lot like the line the administration was taking on > firong the US Attorneys. > ~~

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
no. Saying it again will not make it so. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Obama has said that repeatedly, hasn't he? > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Dana wrote: > >> yes. He has also repeatedly said that he will raise taxes and invade >> Pakista

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
this all sounds a lot like the line the administration was taking on firong the US Attorneys. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Robert wrote: > >> >> So the report somehow concluded that the Governor was wrong to exercise a >

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Robert wrote: > > So the report somehow concluded that the Governor was wrong to exercise a > power that is specifically granted to the Governor's office by the > Consitution of Alaska. Amazing. > Furthermore, the real abuse of power here is the back-door attempt

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
So let's recount: 1. Todd Palin pushed to get trooper Wooten fired. Wooten was not fired and still has his job. 2. Governor Sarah Palin fired Walt Moneghan, one of her cabinet members, who can be fired for any reason, or no reason at all. So the report somehow concluded that the Governor was wron

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
The report actually found that her husband pushed to get Wooten fired, and the only thing they could actually find to draw this conclusion is that she did not stop him from doing that. That's really thin. Like watered-down cabbage soup. The report also found that she was completely within her righ

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
Yes, Obama has said that repeatedly, hasn't he? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Dana wrote: > yes. He has also repeatedly said that he will raise taxes and invade > Pakistan. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most i

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
yes. He has also repeatedly said that he will raise taxes and invade Pakistan. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > McCain very specifically said he didn't approve of that stuff and respected > Obama. So who is pushing the politics of division, eh? > > On Fri,

Re: Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
McCain very specifically said he didn't approve of that stuff and respected Obama. So who is pushing the politics of division, eh? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Gruss wrote: > Many - including Republicans - today have denounced McCain for > stoking the fires of hatred. > ~

Re: Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
snooze On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Gruss wrote: > So Palin has been formally found to have violated the public trust in > her role as a government official. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and d

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Erika L. Walker
Why would people be forced to sell their stock ... ? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is, right now people that turn 70-1/2 can be forced to sell their > stock ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > > Institutional investors can be forced to sell if a decent number of > people want some or all of their money BTW, this is why McCain is requesting to suspend the requirements that people start to sell their stocks at 70-1/2. That is, right now people that turn 70-1/2 can be forced

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> Erika wrote: > That's the other one I was thinking about... been tracking them for the last > few weeks. > Institutional investors can be forced to sell if a decent number of people want some or all of their money and this can be a month-to-month thing or a quarter-to-quarter thing. That is, if

Re: Best Tool to compare versions

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Re: Well, Happy .. er ...Friday?

2008-10-10 Thread Erika L. Walker
It's the CF-Comm Mommy & Daddy Collection! :D On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they liked the last one so much they decided to go for the collection :) > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Goodwin Completes The Link

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
Many - including Republicans - today have denounced McCain for stoking the fires of hatred. When asked if there was precedent for stoking this kind of hatred, presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin said yes. And then she tied a few things together I sure hadn't. She said *the world* was in

Re: Well, Happy .. er ...Friday?

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
:) What, editing technical documents is not fun by you? I should probably also mention that I have Monday_Tues_Wed off at my day job. laundry, well, no, that is not fun. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:12 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People on this list have shitty weekends. > > Isn't anyo

Re: Well, Happy .. er ...Friday?

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
they liked the last one so much they decided to go for the collection :) On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > now hang on a sec ... wasn't she just pregnant? How many kids do you have > now? > you need to give that poor lady a break :) > > Mazel Tov Mikey .

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Erika L. Walker
That's the other one I was thinking about... been tracking them for the last few weeks. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ford's not a bad buy either. They just picked a new CFO with a > pretty good track record. > >

Re: Oh Sarah!

2008-10-10 Thread Tony
in the history that you all remember, has there EVER been a VP or PREZ on two diff sides of the election that mattered as much??? -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Kelly Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Oh Sarah!

2008-10-10 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Oh Sarah!

2008-10-10 Thread Kelly Matthews
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Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Dana
Dude. There has been a four-year investigation of the *last* election and absolutely not one shred evidence was found of any kind of conspiracy. The Attorney General of the entire freaking United States lost his job in at least in part because of it. and you still think that because there is smoke,

Palin: "abused powers of office"

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
So Palin has been formally found to have violated the public trust in her role as a government official. Thus we've got McCain who was formally found to have used "poor judgment" in contributing to an economic crisis and Palin formally found to have abused power for personal gain. Wow. BTW, get

OMFG hilarious

2008-10-10 Thread Tony
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Re: Best Tool to compare versions

2008-10-10 Thread Jerry Barnes
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RE: Buffet adds 8 Billion over the market crash period

2008-10-10 Thread Jacob
Sure.. if you invest in Bear Funds, Bear funds are up about 40% in the last three months. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Buffet adds 8 Billion over the market crash period Interesting... "http://w

RE: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Jacob
If GM does not cut their dividend... nice yield if you purchase at $5 a share. :) -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:30 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000? Royce Total Return Consult (RYTCX) Vanguard

Re: WSJ - McCain's health care plan better for most people than Obama's

2008-10-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > That's not true at all. Administrative costs in Medicare, It's good conversation. There are lots of reasons why medicare admin costs are lower (in some areas!) and it has to do market segmentation, providers choice, amongst all kinds of factors. The point is that you can't simpl

Re: new flash - media in the tank for Obama

2008-10-10 Thread Scott Stroz
If this was an isolated incident, I might not feel the way I do. But this is not the first time somethign like this has happened with ACORN. Once or twice may be a mistake or bad apples, but repeated offenses reek of something more currupt in the organization. And, I can say without hesitation m

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
I was thinking it would probably close around 8400. I don't have the stomach day trading. Most of my purchases are for long term holdings. I'm still convinced the best investment right now for long term is real estate. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Munn
lol, I was sticking with what I heard the other day, 7000-7500. We'll see if we get there. I think we may have hit the bottom, but who knows for sure. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Hey now Robert and Paul... You didn't place your bets! > > No hijacking the thread without

Re: WSJ - McCain's health care plan better for most people than Obama's

2008-10-10 Thread Judah McAuley
That's not true at all. Administrative costs in Medicare, for instance, are significantly lower than in the private sector. Medicare reports their administrative overhead as 2%. Some people argue there are hidden factors not included in that and come up with a figure closer to 6%. Private insurance

Re: So any bets? Above or below 8000?

2008-10-10 Thread Maureen
Ford's not a bad buy either. They just picked a new CFO with a pretty good track record. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha! I knew GM wasn't such a far fetched idea . me too :) > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

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