Re: Sarah Palin needs to explain relationship to Radical Right Wing Pals..

2008-10-20 Thread Beth In Alaska
> All red herrings. Obama is a socialist, finally McCain is saying it. So everything mccain says is true? We've been through this before- socialism isn't equivalent to "social programs" . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 i

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > history and is dangerous if he really believes it. The U.S. is going > to need a stable, innovative financial system after this panic ends, > and we won't get that if Mr. Obama and his media chorus think the > answer is to return to Depression-era rules amid global financial > compe

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/20/buffett-lehman-derivatives-oped-cx_sf_rcs_1020figlewskismith.html > O. M. G: therefore must pay out 91.38 cents for each dollar of debt they insured. This is the largest payout ever in the $55 trillion credit default swap market. ~

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > You think you sound so smart when you take talking points from Mo:) > > OK it does sound like you might be on to something, except... I can > back it up except on dailykos or the likes. > Everything I'm saying comes from people in the biz or Bill Gross or Warren Buffett (who i guess

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Judah McAuley
That is an interesting piece at first sight and requires more analysis. Thanks Sam. Judah On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You think you sound so smart when you take talking points from Mo:) > > OK it does sound like you might be on to something, except... I can

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
You think you sound so smart when you take talking points from Mo:) OK it does sound like you might be on to something, except... I can back it up except on dailykos or the likes. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122282635048992995.html?mod=todays_us_opinion A running cliché of the political le

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
Didn't you post seven links of idiot opinion pieces? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yeah. That header -- editorials -- that would be a clue. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
When do you ban opinion pieces? I didn't get the memo. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Forgot the link:) >> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/19/AR2008101901416.html >> > > You have an unfortunate habit of trying to pass off op

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > What > if you no longer trusted that you'd get your burger? You wouldn't > pays yo money. > Here's an example that just came in: --- Shares of Prudential Financial Inc. fell sharply Monday after a Goldman Sachs analyst cut its rating on concerns the company faces losses on its expos

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:42 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Richard Danzig. > > *snore* Dude, Danzig is far from snoring. Oh, you mean Richard, not Glenn. 'Course Glenn is a pussy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfD7agP1yxw /me retreats back from his mosh pit days ~~~

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - staying prisoner with the other men in vietnam despite the promise > of severe torture. calling it courageous doesn't even do it justice. > Honestly, this could be out of ignorance on the matter, but could you expand upon

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > The investors don't trust the banks so they won't invest. Ah, dammit Sam. Now you've made me pity you. Look, here's the deal. Take off your partisan hat for 2 minutes. Here's the billion foot view. If somebody has a good business idea they seek funding to execute on it. Investo

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
yeah. That header -- editorials -- that would be a clue. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Forgot the link:) >> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/19/AR2008101901416.html >> > > You have an unfortunate habit of trying to pass

Re: Obama's tax policies are socialist

2008-10-20 Thread Judah McAuley
Drive us away? It makes me hot. But then again, I'm a pervert. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same thing here. I occasionally Google the tech lists, or answer a > question on the SQL list, but for the most part, CF-Comm is the only > list I read on a regula

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > The investors don't trust the banks so they won't invest. Even if the > trillion was payed off how do they know it won't happen again? BIZ. Ohhh sorry, but wrong answer. Let's dig in to that Palin-esque answer though: (1.) Please explain who these mysterious "investors" are an

Re: Fresh Stimulus!

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Not charging taxes for low income taxpayers isn't a redistribution of > wealth. So if I pay for a car that you use whenever you want that's not redistributing my wealth to you? Please explain. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>and yet you ae going to vote to allow her to control the legislative >agenda in dc with no executive check on her power. > >it's not too late tochane your mind. ;-) > Given the thorough mess that the Republicans made of the country under Tom Delay, I'm not sure how Pelosi and the Democrats can d

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Larry Lyons
> Liberals Suck Maybe that's why I've always been attracted to liberal women. ;) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;2

Re: Happy B-Day to Larry

2008-10-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>dang > >I forgot too > >happy birthday happy birthday >happy birthday to you > > > >> No problems I've been so busy with the new job that I nearly forgot. At 5:30 am this morning Alexis came into our room to remind me. I was woken up by our 3 year old jumping on the bed singing happy birthday.

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
The investors don't trust the banks so they won't invest. Even if the trillion was payed off how do they know it won't happen again? Plus the trillion is only being borrowed so it still needs to come from somewhere, if it tanks the economy people are going to save or invest someplace else. Not in b

Re: Happy B-Day to Larry

2008-10-20 Thread Larry Lyons
> Happy Birth-Day, Larry! I'm grateful to have ya 'round. > > FYI, Zaph, sending ferrets through the mail is like shipping > munitions > out of the country, last I checked. Problem is that they'll get loose in those mail bags, go berserk and terrorize the postal workers. Worse yet destroy your

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Forgot the link:) > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/19/AR2008101901416.html > You have an unfortunate habit of trying to pass off opinion pieces as journalism. You really need to take the time and figure out the differences between the two. ~~

Re: Extreeeeeeem!

2008-10-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6cqpJvsT4 Interesting (and extremely painful to watch) example of physics at work! Hatton ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Tri

Re: Fresh Stimulus!

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
You're kidding me right? Sheesh. Not charging taxes for low income taxpayers isn't a redistribution of wealth. They don't get your money, they just get to keep theirs. They still get to use the roads and schools, you think we should stop that? As for the stimulus check, $1500 is not wealth. It w

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread J.J. Merrick
oh man I wish I could go back in time and use that zinger! wow! :-) -J.J. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are wrong, as usual. > Martin Luther King, March on Washington, 1963 - approximately 250,000 people > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:48 PM, J.J. Mer

Re: Obama's tax policies are socialist

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
it burns us, precious http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/PosterThumbs/gollum.jpg On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same thing here. I occasionally Google the tech lists, or answer a > question on the SQL list, but for the most part, CF-Comm is the o

Re: Obama's tax policies are socialist

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
It is addictive isn't it On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's funny, when my productivity started flagging, I unsubscribed from > CF-Talk, Ruby-Talk, RoR, FlexCoders, and a couple of others. I can't > even bring myself to consider unsubbing from

Re: Obama's tax policies are socialist

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
Same thing here. I occasionally Google the tech lists, or answer a question on the SQL list, but for the most part, CF-Comm is the only list I read on a regular basis. I miss some of the list members that are gone, and I hope my debate tactics didn't contribute to their leaving. I try not to att

Re: Cowboys

2008-10-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
well, not everything can be perfect. On Oct 20, 2008, at 7:02 PM, denstar wrote: > I've heard 6th street is quite fun. Maybe Burbon Street-ish, but with > less calls to "show us your boobs!"? > > -- > Every man is his own chief enemy. > Anacharsis > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Scott Ra

Re: Obama's tax policies are socialist

2008-10-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
It's funny, when my productivity started flagging, I unsubscribed from CF-Talk, Ruby-Talk, RoR, FlexCoders, and a couple of others. I can't even bring myself to consider unsubbing from CF-Community..That'd be like turning my back on my community. On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Dana wrote

Obama leaves campaign trail

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
apparently to be with sick g-ma. dont' know more ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.h

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > On economics it'll be Buffett and Volker. > > On foreign policy it may very well be former Chairman of the Joint > Chiefs Gen Powell. But it'll also be Retired Air Force Major General > Scott Gration as well as Anthony Lake and former Navy

Re: Fresh Stimulus!

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > stimulus check. I worked full time for the entire year, paid over > 100K in taxes, and got no credit or stimulus check. > > So explain to me how taking money from my taxes and paying it to him > in the form of tax credits and rebates is not equal to re-distribution > of wealth. > Ye

Re: Happy B-Day to Larry

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
dang I forgot too happy birthday happy birthday happy birthday to you On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Guys. > > Another ferret - the wife will kill me she thinks that the current 3 rule the > house. Actually its Alexis who does. > > Talking of w

Re: Extreeeeeeem!

2008-10-20 Thread Tony
permanent and irreparable... OMFG wow. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6cqpJvsT4 > > ~~~

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > destruction of pelosi's liberal agenda, sure. meanwhile, her paduan > learner, obama, will be watching her every move with great > anticipation. > I know these delusions are part of your psyche, but I will guarantee you that Pelosi will be the farthest person from policy power un

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
I'm not a huge fan of Pelosi as a person. I've seen her in the elevator at work a few times and she shares that trophy wife vibe that I find so distasteful in Sarah Palin. But I find it pointless to diss the agenda simply because I don't like the person. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Gruss Go

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > So go here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:8:./temp/~bdvQ7d:: > and read the bill Pelosi authored on energy issues and tell me what is > mindless about it. > Oh it's not that she's mindless, it's how annoying she is that's mindless.

Re: Best Picture Ever

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
We could do LOLMCCAIN - Invisible Giant Lollipop On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me this picture encapsulates the entire 2008 presidential election: > > http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Photos/ss/1756/im:/081016/ids_photos_ts/r1772410910.jpg

Extreeeeeeem!

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6cqpJvsT4 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoff

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
Why do you think you can change our minds by suggesting that destroying the liberal agenda is a good thing if you are convinced that we are all raging liberals. It seems that if we are the people you paint us to be, knowing that Obama would support that agenda would encourage us to vote for him.

Re: Fresh Stimulus!

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mo gave you another talking point, that's cute. > > A tax REBATE is not a redistribution of wealth. Even though some > people don't qualify for the rebate, all rebates went to TAXPAYERS. I do taxes for a friend of mine. He worked 2

Re: Best Picture Ever

2008-10-20 Thread Tony
omfg they are what scares me about america. omg omg omg omg those are the people i run from, the ones who make me sooo unhappy about the state of affairs in our country, that S MANY PEOPLE can be S OUT OF TOUCH with reality... omfg jesus christ its scary to see that shit. -- tony Bette

Re: Best Picture Ever

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
LOL! -- Wise men argue cases, fools decide them. Anacharsis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > All I'm hearing is Hulk Hogan telling the little Hulksters to say their > prayers and take their vitamins.brrrother. ~~~

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
destruction of pelosi's liberal agenda, sure. meanwhile, her paduan learner, obama, will be watching her every move with great anticipation. On 10/20/08, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> and yet you ae going to vote to allow her to control the legislative >> agenda in dc w

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
So go here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:8:./temp/~bdvQ7d:: and read the bill Pelosi authored on energy issues and tell me what is mindless about it. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> and yet you ae going to vote to allow her

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > The crisis was caused by forcing lenders to provide sub-prime > mortgages to people that couldn't pay them back. That's just plain false. Here's how you know: The government could easily just offer to buy up every sub-prime AND near-prime whether it was in default or not. That wo

Re: Happy B-Day to Larry

2008-10-20 Thread Erika L. Walker
Ditto! HAPPY BIRFDAY!! :) YAAAYY!! *confetti!* *confetti!* *does dance with sparklies in hands* YYY!!! ^_^ On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HAPPY BIRFDAY!! :) > > YAAAYY!! > > *confetti!* *confetti!* > > *does dance with sparklies in hands* > > YYY!

Re: Happy B-Day to Larry

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
Happy Birth-Day, Larry! I'm grateful to have ya 'round. FYI, Zaph, sending ferrets through the mail is like shipping munitions out of the country, last I checked. -- Written laws are like spider's webs; they will catch, it is true, the weak and the poor, but would be torn in pieces by the rich

Re: Fresh Stimulus!

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > That is, you pay less of the nation's burdens and I pay more. That > you've been given a tax credit while I've gotten a tax increase? > > How is it NOT that? simple. that would be socialism. -- The first draught serveth for health, the

Re: Did anyone else catch the Palin quote from yesterday?

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Sam wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:36 AM, denstar wrote: >>> What religious reference? >> >> Doesn't "The One" refer to Jesus? > > That's what Oprah called him. Sorry, my bad, I thought it was a reference to Jesus. I don't watch Oprah. And was guessing they

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > and yet you ae going to vote to allow her to control the legislative > agenda in dc with no executive check on her power. > This is where the judgment part comes in. Pelosi's mindless annoyance I can tolerate. McCain's mindful destruction I won't. ~

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > Yeah, cause clean air and water are such horrible ideas. Because > preserving the environment only benefits the liberals. Whew. Thanks for that. It feels good to be berated for driving a gas hog again. Well, it's not I don't believe in environmental preservation. Adam Smith, for

Re: Cowboys

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
I've heard 6th street is quite fun. Maybe Burbon Street-ish, but with less calls to "show us your boobs!"? -- Every man is his own chief enemy. Anacharsis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > Good food scene.. that's good. Wife I'm sure will be looking for the > entertain

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
The crisis was caused by forcing lenders to provide sub-prime mortgages to people that couldn't pay them back. Not by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act. This was controlled by the democrats and they fought the problem all along as they did the SS crisis. Yes, Bush is president and he tried to convin

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-20 Thread denstar
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM, denstar wrote: > >> Ha! I was going to say you do the same thing, like surmising Judah >> was a bush hater, although he's made it clear he ain't (at least not >> rabidly, like some here, and as your comment mad

Re: Obama Biden stopped talking

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
that's why ballot box stuffing was invented, lol. On 10/20/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Amen to that. There needs to be more votes than they can steal. > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>>What could the press possibly learn in the next 15 d

Re: Best Picture Ever

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-czmbMX2ZE On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me this picture encapsulates the entire 2008 presidential election: > > http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Photos/ss/1756/im:/081016/ids_photos_ts/r1772410910.jpg > >

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > It just repeats what I've been saying. > The difference is it's coming from a liberal paper. > Which is what? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Tria

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
and yet you ae going to vote to allow her to control the legislative agenda in dc with no executive check on her power. it's not too late tochane your mind. ;-) On 10/20/08, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously I'm an Obama voter this cycle but I really don't get along > with the ste

Re: Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
Yeah, cause clean air and water are such horrible ideas. Because preserving the environment only benefits the liberals. Because reducing dependence on foreign oil by driving a fuel efficient vehicle is just so irresponsible. Whose talking points have you been listening to? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008

Re: Obama Biden stopped talking

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
Amen to that. There needs to be more votes than they can steal. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>What could the press possibly learn in the next 15 days that we >>already don't know? >>This thing is in the bag. > > Hearing people say this scares me more

Re: Very disturbing sign I just saw

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3p_g2jXh8&feature=user > 0 0 O ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;2

Re: Joe the plumber on Huckabee

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
I've never said he was all of the map. In fact, I've said very little about him at all. I just find his stance to be business as usual. But the primary reason I'm voting against him is his cozy relationship with the religious right and the lack of judgment shown by his selection of Sarah Palin.

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
It just repeats what I've been saying. The difference is it's coming from a liberal paper. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Is Capitalism Dead? > > Why don't you try speaking for yourself. I read about 2 sentences, > but Bush is accountable a

Re: Obama's tax policies are socialist

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
I am sorry but Ben Braver said some fairly reprehensible things about Catholics. He was a decent man and he thought they must be true because his wife said so. They were still reprehensible. I do regret that he felt he had to leave. It is true that some of the other peple in the thread got pretty p

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Is Capitalism Dead? Why don't you try speaking for yourself. I read about 2 sentences, but Bush is accountable and, if not, we don't need the executive branch. You are confusing blame with accountability. For example, Let's say I've been warned for the last 10 years that Canada h

Re: Very disturbing sign I just saw

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3p_g2jXh8&feature=user Warning -- probably nsfw On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> The entire county is racist if Obama loses. >> > > Given the polls and the debate performances that could very well be > the ca

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
Forgot the link:) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/19/AR2008101901416.html On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Capitalism Dead? > The market that failed was not exactly free. > > IS THIS the end of American capitalism? As financial pani

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
Is Capitalism Dead? The market that failed was not exactly free. IS THIS the end of American capitalism? As financial panic spread across the globe and governments scrambled to contain the damage, reality seemed to announce the doom of U.S.-style free markets and President Bush's ideology.

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > - staying prisoner with the other men in vietnam despite the promise > of severe torture. calling it courageous doesn't even do it justice. Nothing to do with President. In fact there's a good argument to make that the guy you DON'T want as your leader is the guy willing to risk

Re: ACORN registrations in San Diego flagged

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
well see... that is why you should read the links... >> If the above doesn't do it, I will need a definition of "legit" that >> doesn't include "Rush Limabaugh's talking points." Dude, these are are >> court casesthat were decided in favor of yes the votes was tampered >> with in 2004. And Robert

Re: Now Here'd Be Your Voter Fraud

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
this happened in several states. Several vendors too I think, but I am less certain of that. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you read the part where they clicked again and the vote was correctly > registered? Sounds more like bad software than bad inte

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > lol you've been saying for the past month that the economic crisis was > all bush's fault. now that it fits your storyline, it's all mccain's > fault? > You know how the biggest moral demagogues are also the ones with the widest stance? Well you've spent the last 8 (40)? years p

Re: ACORN registrations in San Diego flagged

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-its-already-stolen/#more-2118 >> >> Rolling Stone is a joke and this was debunked years ago. Same crew, same >> trash. > > links please? Search the archives, it was covered here. http://w

Re: ACORN registrations in San Diego flagged

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
links please? numbers please? I am talking about numbers that definitely did make a difference in the electoral college, how about you? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there were democrats who were convicted of crimes in ohio in 2004 for > slashing tires o

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
- staying prisoner with the other men in vietnam despite the promise of severe torture. calling it courageous doesn't even do it justice. - breaking with his party again and again to fight for the things he believes in, and accomplishing many of them. - working across the aisle om issues like cam

Liberals Suck

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
Obviously I'm an Obama voter this cycle but I really don't get along with the stereotypical tree-hugging, SUV hating, prius driving, liberal. I hate SUVs, but only because of the size. Keep the engine, ditch their size. But these sustainable earth-mother cloud-heads are driving me nuts. Like Pe

Re: Joe the plumber on Huckabee

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
except you are just fine with wiretapping innocent civilians as I recall... > reform, and limits on police powers. How are those things conservative > beliefs? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
lol you've been saying for the past month that the economic crisis was all bush's fault. now that it fits your storyline, it's all mccain's fault? mccain could have killed the bailout bill. he could have gone to congress and railed against the bill, and the republicans would have followed his lead

Re: Joe the plumber on Huckabee

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
wow exactly how will Obama do that Robert? Enquiring minds want to know. By the way, have you gotten around yet to those links you asked for about voter suppresion? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unlike your portrayal of Joe as a slovenly fool who will ne

Re: Joe the plumber on Huckabee

2008-10-20 Thread William Bowen
> you all are hilarious. one second mccain is all over the map, the next > second he's the same-old same-old. erm... same-old same-old for McCain *is* all over the map... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~

Re: Joe the plumber on Huckabee

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
you all are hilarious. one second mccain is all over the map, the next second he's the same-old same-old. On 10/20/08, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So is putting in a stale, business as usual Republican. > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> then yo

Re: ACORN registrations in San Diego flagged

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Munn
there were democrats who were convicted of crimes in ohio in 2004 for slashing tires of republicans on election day. both sides engage in bad practices. On 10/20/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-its-already-stolen/#more-2118 >> >> Rolling Stone is a j

Re: Palin breaks with McCain, supports amendment banning Gay Marriage.

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
geeez can we not just leave people alone. I am not surprised but still On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gay_marriage_3 > > "NEW YORK – Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin s

Re: Networking question

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
you really don't want people to be able to enumberate your devices inside the firewall. Dana the network security geek JNCIA-ER, LTM-E, LTM-A, RSA CA On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My networking admin has ping turned off on our firewall. He did i

Palin breaks with McCain, supports amendment banning Gay Marriage.

2008-10-20 Thread Vivec
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gay_marriage_3 "NEW YORK – Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a break with John McCain who has said he believes states should be left to define what marria

Re: ACORN registrations in San Diego flagged

2008-10-20 Thread Dana
>> http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-its-already-stolen/#more-2118 > > Rolling Stone is a joke and this was debunked years ago. Same crew, same > trash. links please? >> http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/08/report-voter-purges-colorado-5-other-states-may-vi/ > > said voters ap

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MLK wasn't a politian Icecream has no bones ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.dou

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
LOL On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MLK wasn't a politian > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I wasn't responding the story in the link but to the comment above the >> link in J.J's post.

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
MLK wasn't a politian On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't responding the story in the link but to the comment above the > link in J.J's post. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: Limbaugh shows his true colours

2008-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > circumstances are the same for either guy. biden said obama would face > a test of his mettle within six months. mccain has been through the > crucible already and has proved his mettle. > Proved his mettle to do what? Fire random irrelevant people, lurchingly make proposals of

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
I wasn't responding the story in the link but to the comment above the link in J.J's post. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget Palin 60,000 + > > Was that link to the wrong article? > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread William Bowen
indeed, and what about the Million Man March? might not have got to a million, but even the conservative estimate of the National Park service put the numbers at 400K > They are wrong, as usual. > Martin Luther King, March on Washington, 1963 - approximately 250,000 people -- will "If my life

Re: Happy B-Day to Larry

2008-10-20 Thread Larry Lyons
Thanks Guys. Another ferret - the wife will kill me she thinks that the current 3 rule the house. Actually its Alexis who does. Talking of which, gots to go. Wendy and Alexis are picking me up, and we're going out to a Peruvian restaurant. have a good night all larry >I sent you a ferret for

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
If Fox says so. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> They are wrong, as usual. >> Martin Luther King, March on Washington, 1963 - approximately 250,000 people > > Wait...that wasn't Hitler

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
Don't forget Palin 60,000 + Was that link to the wrong article? On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are wrong, as usual. > Martin Luther King, March on Washington, 1963 - approximately 250,000 people > ~~~

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are wrong, as usual. > Martin Luther King, March on Washington, 1963 - approximately 250,000 people Wait...that wasn't Hitler?!? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 s

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Maureen
They are wrong, as usual. Martin Luther King, March on Washington, 1963 - approximately 250,000 people On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:48 PM, J.J. Merrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oddly enough just yesterday I overheard someone say (a republican who > ran for congress about 20 years ago) that, in

Re: McCain/Palin and Family Guy

2008-10-20 Thread Sam
What are you talking about? It was an Obama supporter that wrote the show about McCain/Palin being linked to the Nazi party. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would HAVE to be Fox News to carry a story like that. > > I watched a part of their 'reporting' yeste

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