Re: Sense

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Munn
It is a performance art project. Google was in on it, they agreed to drive by when the guys were staging the fight. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > I was just assuming a teleport spell went awry, and they BOTH found > themselves transported to a strange new land. > > On T

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > No one counsels teenagers to use abortion as a contraceptive. > Contraceptive education is about *not* getting pregnant. Which is what makes anybody who's "pro-life" a hypocrite. The number one - and only - cause of abortions is unwanted pregnancy. If "pro-lifers" spent as much

Re: IE CSS z-index issue

2009-01-27 Thread Maureen
Have you used position:relative; or position:absolute; ? Also, when I view your page in Firefox, the second header image wraps. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > Anyone really dialed in on IE z-index issues care to give me a hand with > something? I am trying to release our n

Re: Sense

2009-01-27 Thread Dana
I was going to say... On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > Yep, I agree. SCA style fighting. Cool stuff really. > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > >> Looks normal to me. SCA style fighting. >> >> >> > > >

Re: Sense

2009-01-27 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yep, I agree. SCA style fighting. Cool stuff really. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > Looks normal to me. SCA style fighting. > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramati

Re: Sense

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Looks normal to me. SCA style fighting. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:22 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > This Google Map makes none > > > Long version: > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=8+Sampsonia+Way,+Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+PA+15212&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.17605

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Grant
and they were never heard from again. ;) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Personally, I think we should stop giving money to any other country until > we get our shit together at home. Pull the troops back home, close the > borders and hang a sign on the door that say

I just saw economist Dr. Alan Gin speak

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Munn
A local celebrity in San Diego, Dr. Gin is a professor of economics at The University of San Diego. He publishes a monthly Index of Leading Economic Indicators for San Diego County. He spoke at the Asian Business Association lunch today. As you might expect, his talk was on the economic outlook for

IE CSS z-index issue

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Munn
Anyone really dialed in on IE z-index issues care to give me a hand with something? I am trying to release our new corp web site, and I used the same CSS-based menu system I used on the old site (which is still live) but for some reason I can't figure out, the IE z-index issue has cropped up and I

Re: Sense

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I was just assuming a teleport spell went awry, and they BOTH found themselves transported to a strange new land. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > This Google Map makes none > > Do you suppose they knew the Google Street View camera truck was co

Re: Sense

2009-01-27 Thread Ian Skinner
C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > This Google Map makes none Do you suppose they knew the Google Street View camera truck was coming and staged themselves? Or just a couple of enthusiast having fun in an empty lot? ~| Adobe® ColdFusi

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
I'd love that. Then we could see how much taxpayer money goes to Halliburton that then gets translated into bribes to officials. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/biz/6230566.html Judah On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > My first "professional" programming projec

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
No one counsels teenagers to use abortion as a contraceptive. Contraceptive education is about *not* getting pregnant. No one says "well, you've got condoms, the sponge, IUD, vasectomy, diaphragms, hormonal pills and abstinence as an option. Oh or you could be lazy and just get pregnant whenever an

RE: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Way her business runs. I'm just the programmer.. -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: strip a decimal > > > like 2.50 need it to be stored as 2. Out of curiosity... why do you need to only

Sense

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
This Google Map makes none Long version: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=8+Sampsonia+Way,+Pittsburgh,+Allegheny,+PA+15212&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.176059,79.101563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.457636,-80.007607&spn=0.001002,0.002414&t=h&z=19&iwloc=addr&layer=c&cbll=40.457636,-8

RE: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
The rounding works for the client so that's all I need. Thanks! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive

Re: QOTD

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. - Ronald Reagan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most importan

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
You're saying just talking about abortion is the same as actively promoting it as a method of family planning. I see it as allowing them to discuss abortions to pregnant woman but not to sexually active woman as a contraceptive. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > That is inco

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
That is our back yard Scott. Like it or not, America is all over the world. We're in Somalia, we're in Yemen, we're in Iraq, we're in Spain. America is intrinsically bound to globalism now for better or for worse. We've got companies that are doing business on the ground in every country. We have e

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
My first "professional" programming project (for more than beer money) was a Navy R&D project called TechBase. It was a database (and search and reporting functions) that tracked every single Navy contract, status and costs and description and due dates. It was invaluable for the Navy (according

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:00 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: >> We shouldn't bankrupt ourselves doing it but in general a more >> healthy, better educated, more stable world is to our own interest. > > Then since we're running a Trillion dollar deficit should we be > providing such funding? At a ti

Re: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Grant
> > > like 2.50 need it to be stored as 2. Out of curiosity... why do you need to only store the whole part of the number without any rounding? I could (maybe) understand rounding a dollar figure but ignoring the cents altogether seems really strange to me. ~

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> > That said there are several cases where IDF forces shot and threw grenades > into rooms full of civilians when there were no Hamas gunmen nearby, nor > were those buildings being used by Hamas. Proven cases or here say? > > > That said I hope its not another case like the Shabra and Shatilla

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090106/znyt03/901063016 "The Samouni family knew they were in danger. They had been calling the Red Cross for two days, they said, begging to be taken out of Zeitoun, a poor area in eastern Gaza City that is considered a stronghold of Hamas." "He said he ha

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stewart
I dunno, I just think we should worry about cleaning up our own back yard, before we try to clean up someone else's. Judah McAuley wrote: > Because it is in our best interests. That's the basis of all foriegn > aid. If we are able to help reduce infant mortality, increase the > standard of living

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Larry Lyons
> > I'm with you. Let's quit sending aid to Israel.and Egypt and > everyone > > else for that matter. > > Not going to happen... > > http://www.whitehouse. > gov/the_press_office/MexicoCityPolicy-VoluntaryPopulationPlanning/ > > So now we are going to pay for abortions in Mexico and other >

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> We shouldn't bankrupt ourselves doing it but in general a more > healthy, better educated, more stable world is to our own interest. Then since we're running a Trillion dollar deficit should we be providing such funding? ~| Ado

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/09/israel-accused-of-directi_n_156701.html?show_comment_id=19608873 "Another Israeli military spokesman, Maj. Jacob Dallal, said an investigation of the U.N. allegations showed the building was not deliberately targeted. "What we understand there was no pinpoi

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
Because it is in our best interests. That's the basis of all foriegn aid. If we are able to help reduce infant mortality, increase the standard of living, improve the lives of people in other countries, then we project a more positive image of our country, we help bolster that countries economy and

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
This paragraph seems to leap out: "But witnesses say there was little or no resistance here when the Israelis attacked. Evidence on the ground supports that: There are almost no casings from AK-47 rounds or remnants of rocket-propelled grenades — the main weapons of Hamas militants." "...almost n

Re: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Ray Champagne
Yea, I wasn't saying from a storage standpoint, I was saying what to do with the value pulled out. But I think that the other answers are probably better/shorter. Mine was a pseudocode explanation of one approach. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > The woman is using acc

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
A valid question. The true answer is probably "because we can". That is true of all foreign aid, military and medical and financial and infrastructure and trade-based. Should it all be reviewed, and posted publicly in an easy-to-understand form, and talked about by "we the people", and understoo

RE: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
The woman is using access because we haven't convinced her to convert to sql server yet and she has the field in access as currency so when she prints out the report it puts the $ there for her. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 2

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Larry Lyons
>Why was the father executed? Do you have any information on that? That would >be an important piece to this story. > >What exactly do you mean by "withholding" medical attention? Were doctors >or medical personnel in the room, and were prevented from treating the >child? > >Unless you can tell me

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Larry Lyons
>Do you think that bombing a hospital because 4 Terrorists were shooting from >its Windows to be acceptable Collateral Damage? >2009/1/27 Jerry Johnson that's not a war crime. The Geneva Conventions allow such to happen. Once a civilian facility is used for any military purpose it is a legitimat

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stewart
Brings up a question, Why are we (the federal government we) funding a clinic of any kind in a foreign country Isn't that up to the government of the country that the clinic is in, or a private, non government entity? Judah McAuley wrote: > Are you aware that all facilities that provide aborti

Re: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Ray Champagne
"Maybe he has Glaucoma..." On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Michael Grant wrote: > Bwaaahahaha. Secret girlfriend bringing over gay porn. That's amazing. Why > weren't my parents ever this delusional when I got busted with > smokes/booze/weed? > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Zaphod Beebleb

Re: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
If you always want to go to the closest integer below the number put in, use the function Fix() If you want to go up or down based on whether it is .5 or greater or less, then use Round() Judah On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > Okay I have a value that I need to conver

Re: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Grant
Bwaaahahaha. Secret girlfriend bringing over gay porn. That's amazing. Why weren't my parents ever this delusional when I got busted with smokes/booze/weed? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081

Re: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
the cf floor function int=int(dec) or if you want to be tricky int=listFirst(dec,".") On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > Okay I have a value that I need to convert to a whole number if a decimal > is > put in.. like 2.50 need it to be stored as 2. I have javascript code

Re: strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Ray Champagne
What about treating the number as a string, with two elements, with dots as delimiters? The first one (which is a whole number), then take the first char (Left()) of the second one, test if it is >=5 or <5, and either leaving the first element, or adding one to it? Coming from a non-mathematical

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
Are you aware that all facilities that provide abortion services are medical clinics? That it is, in fact, a medical procedure? There is a Planned Parenthood a couple blocks from my house. One friend gets her annual exam there. They did my friends vasectomy. I've gotten condoms there. Its a good p

strip a decimal

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Okay I have a value that I need to convert to a whole number if a decimal is put in.. like 2.50 need it to be stored as 2. I have javascript code to do this but looking for the cf code and trying to use the find replace functions but all that is doing is changing 2.50 to 250.. this has to work in c

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Thank you. That helps greatly. How about family planning clinics, which do not provide abortions, but do provide advice from nurses and doctors, and that advice may include abortion as an available option? Is talking about abortions as part of discussing all medically sound options for family plan

Re: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread morchella
i remember 12-15 or so years ago, going home to visit the folks. parents pc was lagging hard. started scanning it, and started to find TON of HC Ghey pron... was pretty sure it wasn't my dad.. cleaned every thing off it.. few months latter my bro came out to me. asked him if he had been home rec

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> By this statement, you're inferring that you don't think that hospitals > should receive federal funding either? Let me be a bit less vague - I do not feel that tax dollars from any level should be used to provide abortions or keep abortion clinics open. Hospitals, medical clinics and other fac

Re: QOTD

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
nice! Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Sam wrote: > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. > - Benjamin Franklin > > > On

Re: QOTD

2009-01-27 Thread Larry Lyons
>Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. >Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. >- Benjamin Franklin > > "Mary had a little lamb. With mint jelly and mashed potatoes on the side." - Gary Larson ~

Re: QOTD

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. - Benjamin Franklin On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and > become more, you are a lea

Re: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Ian Skinner
Wow, talk about thinking that 'Denial' is a river in Egypt and a bad accent!!! And that is all that I can actually think to say. Just Wow!!! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to da

RE: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob
Hmm.. her son won't be getting anyone pregnant... :D -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:35 AM To: cf-community Subject: Denial is a bad bad thing http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226174833AA5L

Re: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stroz
it would be funny if it wasn't true. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226174833AA5LmiA > > -- > So if you want to love me > then darlin' don't refrain > Or I'll just end up walkin' > In the

Re: QOTD

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
this is good! Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and > become more, you are a leader." > > > John Quincy Adams (17

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Disproportionate force? Damn straight. This is war and war means disproportionate force. This argument has NEVER been applied to any other conflict in the world and has no status in international law...except for media pundits accusing Israel. Civilian casualties are regrettable and Israel has gon

Re: Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Funny but so sad at the same time. We need to get back to comedians making this stuff up. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226174833AA5LmiA > > -- > So if you want to love me > then darlin

Re: Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
yeah, that is weird. Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > Today is my first day for the spam. They are "friend" invites, from > spammers. Selling things. Wanting to "work together" on a

Re: Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Today is my first day for the spam. They are "friend" invites, from spammers. Selling things. Wanting to "work together" on a great moneymaking opportunity in sales. Real estate for sale. Before today, nothing but people I know (not always ones I _like_, but that isnt facebook's fault) Wonder wha

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
It actually states: "performs or actively promotes abortion as a method of family planning" http://www.usaid.gov/business/business_opportunities/cib/pdf/cib0108r.pdf The recipient agrees that is will not furnish assistance for family planning under this award to any foreign nongovernmental organ

Denial is a bad bad thing

2009-01-27 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226174833AA5LmiA -- So if you want to love me then darlin' don't refrain Or I'll just end up walkin' In the cold November rain ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most imp

Re: Israel admits to a war crime.

2009-01-27 Thread Vivec
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1874151,00.html "Putting a Face on Gaza's Horror: A Father's Loss: "Khaled Abed Rabu insisted on showing the old report cards of his 7-year-old daughter Suwad, as if the fact that she was an excellent student made her death all the more unfair and inex

Re: Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
weird, ive never gotten one single spam message from them! just valid friend requests. tw Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > and i personally have seen 3 dozen facebook spam emails t

Re: Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
had some slight wonkyness, and yeah, just a bit, but not too bad. tw Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > Is it just me or is facebook all kinds of sideways today? Can't > login,

Re: Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Maureen
Works fine for me. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > Is it just me or is facebook all kinds of sideways today? Can't > login, can't approve friend requests, can't view my own page. Etc > > -Cameron ~

Re: Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
and i personally have seen 3 dozen facebook spam emails today, from people I do not want. (and no way to report them) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > Is it just me or is facebook all kinds of sideways today? Can't > login, can't approve friend requests, can't view my

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, it banned money going to ANY clinic, if the clinic ever mentioned the word abortion, including referring a patient to a doctor who could talk to the patient about it. The way you put it does not match the facts. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Sam wrote: > Actually it banned US money going

Facebook broken?

2009-01-27 Thread Cameron Childress
Is it just me or is facebook all kinds of sideways today? Can't login, can't approve friend requests, can't view my own page. Etc -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: camer...@gmail.com ~

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stroz
I guess I should qualify this as saying that I would agree with this if it extended to domestic organizations, but it seems to only refer to organizatyions that are operating in foreign countries. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > OK, so to turn that logic around, would you

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Also, you would be ok with funding clinics and programs that _mention_ abortion, as long as they don't perform them? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:29 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > So you agree with the idea that any clinic that mentions abortion as > medical > > option, whether that clinic actual

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
OK, so to turn that logic around, would you also agree that any religious group or church should not get federal funding unless they follow all non-discrimination and non-proselytizing with other money? That there should be no difference between the funds they receive, and how they are used? On

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Charlie Griefer
well that's gonna leave a mark :\ On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > /me walks over to Charlie and spray paints a large W (for whatever) on > his forehead :-P > > Charlie Griefer wrote: > > he's not inferring anything. he may be implying, and you may infer from > > that wh

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stewart
/me walks over to Charlie and spray paints a large W (for whatever) on his forehead :-P Charlie Griefer wrote: > he's not inferring anything. he may be implying, and you may infer from > that what you will. but he did not infer. > :) > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Scott Stewart wrote:

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Charlie Griefer
he's not inferring anything. he may be implying, and you may infer from that what you will. but he did not infer. :) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > Hatton, > > By this statement, you're inferring that you don't think that hospitals > should receive federal funding eit

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stewart
Hatton, By this statement, you're inferring that you don't think that hospitals should receive federal funding either? C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: >> So you agree with the idea that any clinic that mentions abortion as medical >> option, whether that clinic actually performs them or not, should be

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stroz
Ditto. How difficult would it be to divert funds that would have gone to a project that will get gov't assistance and funnel it to one that would fund abortions? If I give an alcoholic $100 and tell them they canot buy beer with it, only food. All I have done is made it so that any money he woul

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> So you agree with the idea that any clinic that mentions abortion as medical > option, whether that clinic actually performs them or not, should be > forbidden from receiving US government funding? I feel that any place that performs abortions should not receive government funding regardless of

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
Actually it banned US money going to abortion clinics even if the money wasn't paying for the actual abortion. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > The Mexico City Policy banned money going to groups that discussed > abortion as an option or made referrals to providers. It ha

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
So you agree with the idea that any clinic that mentions abortion as medical option, whether that clinic actually performs them or not, should be forbidden from receiving US government funding? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:07 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > As I mentioned in another thread, the re

Re: Bush was right when it mattered most

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
The lack of funding is sort of covered in the 5 myths. The Politico story is more about the accountability and now that these schools are identified, it's Obama's turn for the next step and find a solution. 5 Myths About No Child Left Behind Myths About the Education Law Everyone Loves to Hate htt

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> As I mentioned in another thread, the repeal of the Mexico City Policy > (more properly known at the Global Gag Rule) does not end up with any > federal funding for abortions. The Hyde Amendment has ensured for the > last 30 years that federal money cannot go to pay for abortions. > > The Mexico

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
BTW, "people like you" refer to apparently intelligent rational thinking people that get a wrong hair up their butt and don't THINK about what is being fed them. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > It is exactly this kind of LIE from you and people like you that drive me > fr

Re: Now I have seen it all....

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
Those would be so nice for Burningman. Judah On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > Friend of mine (in England) thought that was excellent and is actually going > to a festival over there and is going to contact the guy and buy up a couple > dozen to sell at the festival. > >

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
As an interesting side note, I'm only around here *because* of Roe v. Wade. I was born in January 1974, one year after Roe v. Wade. My mother was on some scary prescription drugs at the time she became pregnant (wasn't planned) and this was not too long after the Thalidomide scares. The family doc

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Did you actually read that memo? Do you really believe that "we are going to pay for abortions in Mexico"? Where the %$#& do you read that in the memo. It is exactly this kind of LIE from you and people like you that drive me friggin batty. At least argue the facts, don't just make shit up and

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
i am one of them. pro choice to me is simple "stay outta my womb" its neither pro-war or anything like that, its just, that its not your womb to chose what happens in it... and no morals shouldnt win here. and death penalty, im for that, all the way, but id have to say only when dna or self admiss

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
absolutely true again. i was happy to see that pelosi wanted to dole out more condoms, etc! we need less people, fo sho! On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, G Money wrote: > Good...we should fund abortions everywhere. > > If there's one thing this world needs less of.it's people. > > On Tue,

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread William Bowen
> See, this is something I don't understand... why are people that are > "pro-choice" also against war and death penalties? > > Something of an oxymoron, isn't it? No. It's a far more consistent position than than pro-lifers who are vehemently pro-war and pro-death penalty... -- will "If my l

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
As I mentioned in another thread, the repeal of the Mexico City Policy (more properly known at the Global Gag Rule) does not end up with any federal funding for abortions. The Hyde Amendment has ensured for the last 30 years that federal money cannot go to pay for abortions. The Mexico City Policy

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > See, this is something I don't understand... why are people that are > "pro-choice" also against war and death penalties? > > Something of an oxymoron, isn't it? > Because war or the death penalty could conceivably kill ME. At least I

Re: Bush was right when it mattered most

2009-01-27 Thread Judah McAuley
Um, no. The NCLB never really had funding behind it. I support accountability though I dislike the focus on standardized testing. More than anything else though, there has to be funding. Still, NCLB was by no means the worst thing that Bush ever did. At least it was an attempt at the Federal gover

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Good...we should fund abortions everywhere. > > If there's one thing this world needs less of.it's people. See, this is something I don't understand... why are people that are "pro-choice" also against war and death penalties? Something of an oxymoron, isn't it? ~~~

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread G Money
Good...we should fund abortions everywhere. If there's one thing this world needs less of.it's people. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:45 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > I'm with you. Let's quit sending aid to Israel.and Egypt and everyone > > else for that matter. > > Not going to happen..

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Well, we're not appreciated when we send aid to most places and in many cases that aid is all that shores up unpopular governments. A little civil unrest would be expected, but it'll be better for everyone. right? Acceptable losses. right? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, G Money wrote: > I'm w

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I'm with you. Let's quit sending aid to Israel.and Egypt and everyone > else for that matter. Not going to happen... http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/MexicoCityPolicy-VoluntaryPopulationPlanning/ So now we are going to pay for abortions in Mexico and other countries. Reminds me

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Stroz
Personally, I think we should stop giving money to any other country until we get our shit together at home. Pull the troops back home, close the borders and hang a sign on the door that says, "We will get back you when we get our own house in order". On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, G Money wr

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Rastafari
fuckina! On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:36 PM, G Money wrote: > I'm with you. Let's quit sending aid to Israel.and Egypt and everyone > else for that matter. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: Thoughts on manufacturing?

2009-01-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > executive management has become a profession all its own, full of shiny MBAs > who can talk to Wall Street but don't know dick about their own companies > and make horrible strategic decisions Yup, there's your core problem right there. The US is plenty competitive in the manufa

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > I wonder if he'll apply this to other, non-muslim countries as well or if > this is a special case. I'd LOVE to see America stop manipulating Israeli > politics and dictating how they should act. > > And as I

Re: Obama reaches out to the Muslim World

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I wonder if he'll apply this to other, non-muslim countries as well or if this is a special case. I'd LOVE to see America stop manipulating Israeli politics and dictating how they should act. And as I know someone will say that America sends aid to Israel, they also send aid to Egypt and other Mus

Re: Thoughts on manufacturing?

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Munn
yes, and the execs maade horrible decisions at bad times. you can't survive like thaat forever. On 1/27/09, Sam wrote: > Didn't the unions prevent the Big three from automating to keep jobs? > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> If I had my choice, I would say we need a re

Re: Bush was right when it mattered most

2009-01-27 Thread Sam
I thought those were the schools NCLB helped by sending money to help them improve. If that doesn't help then shouldn't a perpetually failing school be closed? I noticed your kid's didn't go, why should others have to? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Dana wrote: > Mexican-born. No Child Left Beh

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