Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Maureen
The rush is that even if the hard money isn't going to be infused into the economy immediately, knowing that it will be available down the road will "STIMULATE" spending and investments. Companies, states and cities are doing budgets now for the next fiscal year, and in some cases for the next tw

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Judah McAuley
The bill is a two year bill. the bulk (as I understand it) of the projects will be launched this year and next year. Why is next year important you ask? I'd say that next year is as important or more important than this year because companies need fiscal visibility in order to plan staffing and ri

Re: More Change We Can Believe: Tax problems for Obama's choice for the Labor Dept/Conflict of Interest for Panetta

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Munn
LOL! I think we may be onto something because we are all starting to agree, at least on the broad issues. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM, C. Hatton wrote: > > >> RoMunn wrote: > >> > >> I understand what this writer is saying, but he does not point to any > single > >> course of action as the ne

Re: More Change We Can Believe: Tax problems for Obama's choice for the Labor Dept/Conflict of Interest for Panetta

2009-02-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> RoMunn wrote: >> >> I understand what this writer is saying, but he does not point to any single >> course of action as the necessary steps to right the ship. > > Gruss wrote: > > DUDE! EXCELLENT analysis. couldn't agree more. (*blink*) Did I just pigs... with... wings? ~~~

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Munn
I want to see a top line number around $300-400 billion, made up of tax cuts and spending on "shovel ready" projects. Everything else can be done separately in normal appropriations bills, because the money isn't going to get into the economy this year anyway. So what's the rush? On Sat, Feb 7, 2

Re: CBO - Stimulus bill will hurt the economy

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Munn
And so we go to the heart of the matter with what ails our economy. Financial services have become a point of HUGE friction, costing capital that is wildly disproportionate to the value they provide. How do we fix it? On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Gruss wrote: > > That being the case, Buiter

Re: BG

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Stroz
I hopw not. They have not been happy for 4 years, why start now. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Scott Raley -ITC wrote: > > Yeah I can see the last episode with them finding a planet to live happily > ever after.. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Stroz
Just trying to poitn out that sometimes 1.8% can still be a shitload of money :D On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Scott wrote: > > 2% of 1 trillion is still 20 Billion. That ain't chump change. > > > > There's 2 issues Scott: > > 1.) The insane hyperbole of the hyperbole

RE: BG

2009-02-07 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:14 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: BG > > > I actully thought that they woudl have made the coup last longer - like > to > the end of the series. To be honest, I woudl not be s

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > 2% of 1 trillion is still 20 Billion. That ain't chump change. > There's 2 issues Scott: 1.) The insane hyperbole of the hyperbole: "It's a pork bonanza!!" You don't say that when you're only talking about 1.8%. 2.) Is the alleged "pork" pork? I've listed it in various thread

Re: More Change We Can Believe: Tax problems for Obama's choice for the Labor Dept/Conflict of Interest for Panetta

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > > I understand what this writer is saying, but he does not point to any single > course of action as the necessary steps to right the ship. DUDE! EXCELLENT analysis. couldn't agree more. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > into the economy anytime soon, why put it in the bill? I would prefer to see > Congress pass a bill with immediate relief But now you're just flailing around. You bitch about Pork (which is stimulus imo), but you want tax cuts, but you don't want spending, but you want stimulus

Re: CBO - Stimulus bill will hurt the economy

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jochem wrote: > Lots of stuff here so I'll just number responses: 1.) You're just restating the problem over and over: falling asset prices. We agree, but what about the solution? 2.) You're not offering any solution, nor is Buiter beyond "do nothing, it'll cause you problems down the road."

RE: BG

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Yeah I can see the last episode with them finding a planet to live happily ever after.. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: BG I actully thought that they woudl have made the coup last l

Re: BG

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Stroz
I actully thought that they woudl have made the coup last longer - like to the end of the series. To be honest, I woudl not be surprised if there is not a happy ending to the series. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Jim Davis wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Raley -ITC [ma

Re: GMail/Outlook Solution

2009-02-07 Thread Rastafari
gmail is my bitch On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Well..I can't do cool stuff with outlook and exchange..AND I don't know > anything much about Gmail! > HA! Beat that! ^_^ > > 2009/2/7 Tim Heald > >> >> man I use outlook, and I can do cool stuff with outlook and exchange, but I

RE: BG

2009-02-07 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Raley -ITC [mailto:sra...@itc-llc.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:45 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: BG > > > So Adama lives and now they are resurrecting #5.. I thought they > couldn't do > this when the resurrection ship was destroyed or w

Re: More Change We Can Believe: Tax problems for Obama's choice for the Labor Dept/Conflict of Interest for Panetta

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Munn
I understand what this writer is saying, but he does not point to any single course of action as the necessary steps to right the ship. His conclusions about the need to transfer of resources to the public sector assume that Social Security and Medicare must continue in their current forms, and th

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Judah Mc wrote: > > Sen. Inhofe is in serious running for craziest Mo-Fo in the Senate. > And that is a very select club indeed. Maybe so, I don't really pay much attention to him, I just noticed the quote from him yesterday. > Could you point me to the analys

Re: GMail/Outlook Solution

2009-02-07 Thread Vivec
Well..I can't do cool stuff with outlook and exchange..AND I don't know anything much about Gmail! HA! Beat that! ^_^ 2009/2/7 Tim Heald > > man I use outlook, and I can do cool stuff with outlook and exchange, but I > know zero about gmail. > > ~~~

Re: CBO - Stimulus bill will hurt the economy

2009-02-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
** Private ** wrote: > He's making the same point, though, that has already been made isn't > he? That more US debt will mean default, inflation, or high taxes 3 > years from now. Yes. But unlike some he is considering what that means in an international, macro-economic perspective. Consider wh

Re: GMail/Outlook Solution

2009-02-07 Thread Tim Heald
man I use outlook, and I can do cool stuff with outlook and exchange, but I know zero about gmail. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Phhh...geez man! You mean you weren't doing that all along.. > come on..get with the program. > > >_> > > <_< > > *runs* > > > 2009/2/7 LRS Sco

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Judah McAuley
Sen. Inhofe is in serious running for craziest Mo-Fo in the Senate. And that is a very select club indeed. I do wonder about some of the spending though. The bill is big enough that it is difficult for serious analysis to be done before it gets passed. I hate that, lord knows that Republicans pul

Re: GMail/Outlook Solution

2009-02-07 Thread Vivec
Phhh...geez man! You mean you weren't doing that all along.. come on..get with the program. >_> <_< *runs* 2009/2/7 LRS Scout > > Ok, so a while back I asked about how to have my replies to threads show up > in my outlook client. Turns out it was super easy. I created a filter on > to

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Stroz
2% of 1 trillion is still 20 Billion. That ain't chump change. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > > > I agree that the government is the only player big enough to help, and > that > > there needs to be a stimulus bill, so let's see a stimulus bill, not a

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Robert Munn
I'm not selecting facts. According to the analyses I have seen and from public statements by people like Sen. Inhofe, most of the spending, while not pork, is also not going to get into the economy in the next year. Part of the reason the TARP went the way it did was because that was what they cou

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > > I agree that the government is the only player big enough to help, and that > there needs to be a stimulus bill, so let's see a stimulus bill, not a > pork-and-beans bonanza. I've finally figured out the difference between us: * I let the study of facts drive my politics. * Y

Re: O.M.G.

2009-02-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
** Private ** wrote: > wow. > that looks like fun! > id try it I might try it, after putting on diapers. Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://a

Re: 22 inches

2009-02-07 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Big monitors kick ass. > I love my 27" one, I'd like to add a second (albeit smaller) one but to do that, I have to do some serious desk cleanup! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic relea

Re: More Change We Can Believe: Tax problems for Obama's choice for the Labor Dept/Conflict of Interest for Panetta

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > As for Bush, the main economic criticisms Democrats had of his policies were As former marketoholic I know how you feel. If (not when anymore) I go back to college I will make a point of studying market failures because that's exactly what's happened of the last decade: not jus

GMail/Outlook Solution

2009-02-07 Thread LRS Scout
Ok, so a while back I asked about how to have my replies to threads show up in my outlook client. Turns out it was super easy. I created a filter on to:cf-community@houseoffusion.com that added a CF-Community label. Done. Now I get my responses, weird. ~~~

Re: CBO - Stimulus bill will hurt the economy

2009-02-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jochem wrote: > If you want to know about the real danger posed by an economic stimulus Sheesh is that guy tough to read. He's making the same point, though, that has already been made isn't he? That more US debt will mean default, inflation, or high taxes 3 years from now. He's saying that

Re: 22 inches

2009-02-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Now let's all think back about 15~20 years ago. In fhat frame of mind, did you ever see yourself bragging about monitor size to your online friends? :) We are some really geeky people. :) On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Big monitors kick ass. > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at

Re: 22 inches

2009-02-07 Thread Larry Lyons
>holy macaroni > >ive never had a monitor larger than 17" in my life. >ive been a developer/graphic designer for well over 14 years >now, and imjust floored that it took a $164 AOC from circuit >city tonight (liquidation sales FTW!) to get me here, but i have >my first 22" monitor tonight! > >w000

Re: O.M.G.

2009-02-07 Thread Rastafari
wow. that looks like fun! id try it On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Tim Heald wrote: > > man that looks like crazy fun > > must be great to have a trust fund > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey > wrote: > >> >> > Sheesh. What bailed-out bank do you have work for to afford

Re: O.M.G.

2009-02-07 Thread Tim Heald
man that looks like crazy fun must be great to have a trust fund On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > > Sheesh. What bailed-out bank do you have work for to afford that sport?? > > > > "Yeah ... we drive off cliffs in a brand new rolls and then juggle > > faberge egg

Re: O.M.G.

2009-02-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Sheesh. What bailed-out bank do you have work for to afford that sport?? > > "Yeah ... we drive off cliffs in a brand new rolls and then juggle > faberge eggs before we pull our chutes made from the feather felt of > spotted owls. It's alright." I don't know how expensive the equipment is bu

Re: BG

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Stroz
The last time we saw Tigh's wife, they were on New Caprica. No reason to think she could not resurrect at that point. Also, we don't know that Sam died. As for the rips in the wall, Galactica is an old ship. Remember, she was goign to be decommisioned when in the mini-series that started it al

BG

2009-02-07 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
So Adama lives and now they are resurrecting #5.. I thought they couldn't do this when the resurrection ship was destroyed or was this mass reproduction? It looks like one of the other 4 died so they going to resurrect him too? Anyone know what the rips in the wall of the engine room mean?

Re: CBO - Stimulus bill will hurt the economy

2009-02-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
** Private ** wrote: > http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/ > CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate > bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that > within a few years they wo

Re: Krauthammer - the Fierce Urgency of Pork

2009-02-07 Thread Judah McAuley
Republicans have no reason to pass a stimulus bill good or otherwise. Right now if any bill goes through its going to be seen as Obama's bill because he just got elected with bigger majorities in the House and Senate. So if a bill passes and it is seen as working, credit goes to Obama/Democrats ev