Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > >> Using that argument, then there are plenty of invisible pink unicorns >> running around. > > No, there just isn't any proof otherwise. No offense, but the same can be said of God. -- Scott Stroz --- The DOM is retarded.

Re: GOP shows its allegiance, and it is not to the people

2009-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Sounds like the Fairness Doctrine to me ;-) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> >> http://gizmodo.com/5388381/john-mccains-internet-freedom-act-seeks-to-block-fccs-net-neutrality-rules >> >> How does it foster innovation w

Re: GOP shows its allegiance, and it is not to the people

2009-10-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > http://gizmodo.com/5388381/john-mccains-internet-freedom-act-seeks-to-block-fccs-net-neutrality-rules > > How does it foster innovation when At&T brings out its own movie > program and blocks Hulu, Youtube, and Google Video? > How does it foster

Re: my "3 week vacation" is over

2009-10-23 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Michael Gra wrote: > > Wow, you're a man? I always assumed you were a woman. Geesh. > > Funny, I always thought he was a man. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want?

Re: my "3 week vacation" is over

2009-10-23 Thread Michael Grant
Wow, you're a man? I always assumed you were a woman. Geesh. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM, morchella wrote: > > so having to take off 2 weeks of vacation for the emergency room, > birth, and home of wife and baby. > and additional week working at home, i come to realize exactly what > most em

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
> Using that argument, then there are plenty of invisible pink unicorns > running around. No, there just isn't any proof otherwise. >because nothing has been written about it, Not a conclusion that can be made definitively. Considering that estimates are that we have only so far found about

Re: my "3 week vacation" is over

2009-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
And just wait til the little one starts eating solid food... /me is glad that potty learning is mostly behind him On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I give it a few days. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: >> >> morchella wrote: >>> btw, diapers are

Re: my "3 week vacation" is over

2009-10-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I give it a few days. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > morchella wrote: >> btw, diapers are a breeze. no smell.. > > That won't last long! > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something t

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
answers inline On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > >>A few leaps. More like a few thousand. > > LOL, yeah it definitely was not the most well-constructed scientific argument. > >>Ramese III and Thutmose II or >>their successors were the only ones that would fit within that

Re: my "3 week vacation" is over

2009-10-23 Thread Ian Skinner
morchella wrote: > btw, diapers are a breeze. no smell.. That won't last long! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseof

Re: BG The Plan

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>It was interesting but the series may have benefited if these 2hrs were put >in the series while it was going.. and all the nudity we missed in the >series :) Forgot this was coming out...going to add it to my Netflix cue now! MJS ~~~

my "3 week vacation" is over

2009-10-23 Thread morchella
so having to take off 2 weeks of vacation for the emergency room, birth, and home of wife and baby. and additional week working at home, i come to realize exactly what most employers want. and that's serfdom.. i go back Monday... am actively looking. so no turkey, xmas, new years spare free time..

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>There is a very big distinction between 'knowing' it and 'believing' it. True, I can't disagree with that. I am too much of a natural skeptic myself to not admit that I have constant doubts about God and struggle with my faith on a pretty regular basis. Heck, if someone like Mother Theresa adm

Re: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread Raymond Camden
Dude, your so wrong, that when I looked up Wrong in the dictionary, you weren't there. (Get it?) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:22 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I thought it was boring to be honest. > > Would have been better mixed into the show. > > It's on ninjavideo.net btw. > > -Original Message--

Re: BG The Plan

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
Aye, it is... http://www.syfy.com/caprica/ On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I thought Caprica was due to start as a series in January. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> >> Would have been nice to see them do something with the series caprica >> >> ---

Re: BG The Plan

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I thought Caprica was due to start as a series in January. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Would have been nice to see them do something with the series caprica > > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>so logic isn't a part of it. And you're basing your conclusion on a >very flawed piece of work - at least when it comes to the age of the >planet, how many legs on a grasshopper (4 vs 6), rabbits chewing their >cud, a flat earth, etc., etc. Totally wrong. I never said I used the Bible as a sole

RE: BG The Plan

2009-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Would have been nice to see them do something with the series caprica -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: BG The Plan Nah, I think the whole point is that you get the 'other side' view a

RE: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
I thought it was boring to be honest. Would have been better mixed into the show. It's on ninjavideo.net btw. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

Re: Worst canned food item ever

2009-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Certainly in the running for title of "Least Kosher" On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Forget 'canned'...worst food item ever. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> http://ihatemymessageboard.com/2009/03/29/pork-brains-in-milk-gravy/ >> >> > > ~

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>A few leaps. More like a few thousand. LOL, yeah it definitely was not the most well-constructed scientific argument. >Ramese III and Thutmose II or >their successors were the only ones that would fit within that time >frame. T That would depend on the exact date of the Exodus, something tha

Re: Worst canned food item ever

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
Forget 'canned'...worst food item ever. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > http://ihatemymessageboard.com/2009/03/29/pork-brains-in-milk-gravy/ > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with somethin

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
There is a very big distinction between 'knowing' it and 'believing' it. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > >>How, exactly, do we 'know' this? > > "We" being Christians who believe the information given to us about God in > the Bible. > > > > ~~~

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Mary Jo, first and foremost, I really am enjoying this exchange. I am as well, although I probably need to get back to work and spend less time on it at this point. ;-) >I am curious as to how logic can guide you to the assumption that >there must be a god. As far as I can tell, logic can

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so logic isn't a part of it. And you're basing your conclusion on a very flawed piece of work - at least when it comes to the age of the planet, how many legs on a grasshopper (4 vs 6), rabbits chewing their cud, a flat earth, etc., etc. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: >

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>How, exactly, do we 'know' this? "We" being Christians who believe the information given to us about God in the Bible. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusio

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A few leaps. More like a few thousand. Ramese III and Thutmose II or their successors were the only ones that would fit within that time frame. There are no indications that they died anything other than by old age. No record of any unusual plagues etc., even though that sort of event was recorded

Re: BG The Plan

2009-10-23 Thread Raymond Camden
Nah, I think the whole point is that you get the 'other side' view after the main story is done. If it taken place _during_ the original air time you would not get the same impact. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > It was interesting but the series may have benefited if t

Re: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread Raymond Camden
Um, don't forget - The Plan comes on soon. A "friend" watched it - and this "friend" thought it was easily some of the best BSG he has even seen. In fact, this "friend" said he would put 2 of the moments from the show in the Top 10 - easy. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:33 PM, LRS Scout wrote:

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Mary Jo, first and foremost, I really am enjoying this exchange. I am curious as to how logic can guide you to the assumption that there must be a god. As far as I can tell, logic can only get you to a point where you can say "I cannot prove nor disprove the existence of a god". I'd be re

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > >>we know that he is a God of justice How, exactly, do we 'know' this? -- Scott Stroz --- The DOM is retarded. http://xkcd.com/386/ ~| Want to reach the

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Is there any independent archeological or historical evidence of these >miracles? For instance something like the Israelites leaving Egypt >after the Egyptian firstborns were killed, turning the Nile to blood, >plagues of frogs, the death of the Pharaoh etc would have merited at >least some ment

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>That's what so great about religion. It's so damn flexible. Something really >bad happens and people ask "Why God, Why?" No worries, it's God testing us.. Actually, no, most Christians do not think God is "testing" us. Bad things are not the result of God inflicting them on us, we inflict them

Worst canned food item ever

2009-10-23 Thread Judah McAuley
http://ihatemymessageboard.com/2009/03/29/pork-brains-in-milk-gravy/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/g

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread William Bowen
Crucifixion's a dawdle. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, G Money wrote: > > Riiight...and Christians believe that Jesus suffered as a part of God's > plan. > > No idea if Jews believe anything similar about the suffering of their > ancestors during the Holocaust. > > Certainly there is no doubt

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>He was speaking to the point of if this was a loving god, he'd at >least give us enough evidence of his existence. Those of us that believe in God see *much* evidence for his existence. >But yet, he let 6 >million jews suffer at the hands of something he could have stopped >easily. Ah, the o

RE: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread LRS Scout
Damn I'm gonna miss this show. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments I was reading Maxim's list of the best 10 moments of the series: http://www.ma

RE: BG The Plan

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Raley
It was interesting but the series may have benefited if these 2hrs were put in the series while it was going.. and all the nudity we missed in the series :) -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:09 AM To: cf-community Subject:

RE: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread Rick Eidson
That was pretty cool... You think it's going to crash on the surface but no! Lunch the vipers and jump!... I was bit disappointed the Pegasus was lost. It was an awesome ship and more advanced than Galactica, though she did take out two Cylon bass stations when she went. Rick -Original

Re: Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I am really surprised that the Cylons showing up on New Caprica did not make the list. For me, that was truly the greatest 'Holy shit' moments of the series. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I was reading Maxim's list of the best 10 moments of the series: > > http:

GOP shows its allegiance, and it is not to the people

2009-10-23 Thread Vivec
http://gizmodo.com/5388381/john-mccains-internet-freedom-act-seeks-to-block-fccs-net-neutrality-rules the GOP is going against the interests of the consumer and geeks everywhere with its attempt to block the FCC's net Neutraility rules. They are instead proposing that companies be given the righ

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread G Money
Riiight...and Christians believe that Jesus suffered as a part of God's plan. No idea if Jews believe anything similar about the suffering of their ancestors during the Holocaust. Certainly there is no doubt that, in human terms, what the Jews experienced during WW2 was the worst kind of sufferi

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I am not sure, but I am sure that its all part of God's plan ;-) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And North America isn't. Where does that leave us? > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> Duh...Larry..it was noted...in the Bible! >> >> On Fri,

Re: US Schools adopt Venezuelan music education program

2009-10-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, you obviously read it wrong. "in parts of the United States where children couldn’t normally afford instruments." The plan is to train high quality musicians who can work at minimum wage, while paying back the interest on those instuments for the next 30 years, so the rich people don't have

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
The Bible says that Jesus 'suffered' on the cross as he was crucified. I think I would put being burnt alive in an oven to be at least on the same level as what one would endure while being crucified. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Zaphod Be

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
I am pretty sure we can all be in agreement that being burnt alive in an oven would be considered 'suffering' On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Again, to the parent analogy, is t

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And North America isn't. Where does that leave us? On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Duh...Larry..it was noted...in the Bible! > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> Is there any independent archeological or historical evidence of these >> miracl

Battlestar Galactica - Best 10 Moments

2009-10-23 Thread Cameron Childress
I was reading Maxim's list of the best 10 moments of the series: http://www.maxim.com/tv/guy-tv/84728/10-best-battlestar-galactica-moments.html After reading it - I had to hunt down a video of the #1 moment, which has long been my favorite moment of the show... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
hmmm.I guess I'm just not sure what a Jewish person would learn from being gassed to death... On Oct 23, 2009, at 9:21 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Again, to the parent analogy, is there any point

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread G Money
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Again, to the parent analogy, is there any point during parenthood > where you would remain hidden while a child of yours suffers? > > YES. Many times, I would imagine. Because often times what the child

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Scott Stroz
Duh...Larry..it was noted...in the Bible! On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Is there any independent archeological or historical evidence of these > miracles? For instance something like the Israelites leaving Egypt > after the Egyptian firstborns were killed, turning th

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Is there any independent archeological or historical evidence of these miracles? For instance something like the Israelites leaving Egypt after the Egyptian firstborns were killed, turning the Nile to blood, plagues of frogs, the death of the Pharaoh etc would have merited at least some mention i

Re: Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty

2009-10-23 Thread Michael Grant
You and your damn malformed video id's. The Malformers. [da-da-da] Grussbots in disquise. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Justin wrote: > > Obama couldn't do that even if he wanted to. All treaties have to be > > ratified by 2/3rds of the Senators. > > That's what yo

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Michael Grant
> > Some may argue that he certainly did through the examples of incredible > courage of people that helped hide Jews and otherwise risk their lives. That's what so great about religion. It's so damn flexible. Something really bad happens and people ask "Why God, Why?" No worries, it's God testi

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Michael Grant
>You will find most, if not all, of the people in these cases were led by their religious convictions. Whoa, that's a heck of a leap. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the Hous

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
He was speaking to the point of if this was a loving god, he'd at least give us enough evidence of his existence. But yet, he let 6 million jews suffer at the hands of something he could have stopped easily. Again, to the parent analogy, is there any point during parenthood where you would remai

US Schools adopt Venezuelan music education program

2009-10-23 Thread Vivec
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/10/23/famed_venezuelan_music_education_program_adopted/ "This is because Thompson is a musical pioneer of sorts, one of 10 students chosen as the first wave in the United States of a revolutionary Venezuelan program called El Sistema. El Sistema - off

Re: Atheist Ads (was Re: Finally, a cure for Christianity)

2009-10-23 Thread G Money
One of the more interesting religion classes I took in high school dissected each of the major miracles in Exodus (the 7 plagues, manna from heaven, water from the rock, etc.) and discussed possible natural causes for each. The parting of the red sea explanation was particularly interesting, wish