Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread morchella
ok Maureen now i am titillated... any links to audio? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-commu

Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
I started driving instead of flying when the airlines started insisting that I check my musical instruments as luggagecause that ain't happening. We've driven twice from Atlanta to San Francisco in the last several years. I only fly now when I'm not traveling for a music event. On Fri, Apr

RE: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
I have thought about renting a car to drive up there when I go instead of flying. I heard some of the airlines are going to start charging 45/bag for carryon luggage now. That is getting ridiculous. If that is the case...then I will be driving from now on. -Original Message- From: morc

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Wouldn't that require actual liberals in texas? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report Larry's right, Texas still has the biggest influence on tex

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2010-04-09 Thread morchella
no silly.. if it where my money account. that we, or some one on floor did apps for. then when i got paid. they could see how much i spent on pudding. or jelly beans or what ever.. and me no feel like sharing all my info with every body unless they are the devil.. or God/Jesus, he is good too..

Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
Bereavement fare is rare and not worth it, you need a death certificate, just not worth the trouble. No such thing as standby anymore, just means you paid full fair and are waiting around the airport for a different time. I don't remember the airlines but you have three airports to work with so i

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2010-04-09 Thread Sam
You would charge beer to you're company account? How much bailout did you guys get ;) On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:01 PM, morchella wrote: > > i got a weird look when i turned down company account. > i asked manager why i would want him or his boss to know what beer i bought > and when.. > he was sh

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
Are you saying a third of the population doesn't believe in evolution or that they were forced to choose between evolution and creationism to explain the beginning of life as we know it? I love this country and I know there's a lot of morons in it, I just choose to be a little more optimistic abou

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
Larry's right, Texas still has the biggest influence on text book publishers. Where he's wrong is which group is craziest in Texas, I've heard the liberal revisionism in Texas is just as bad if not worse than the fundie side. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Maureen wrote: > > As of the last num

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
Few people are in the camp it's one or the other. Most creationists, so I've read, believe they co-exist. Evolution doesn't cover the beginning, just what happens after. While some creationist believe the world started 6k years ago most do not, so I've read :) But you're referring to the literal

Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread morchella
o and dana. sorry for your loss. but if you can float it. hitch, fly or float there. it does make a difference, in your own mind. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:41 PM, morchella wrote: > 18 hours in a car will cost you about 210 in gas. > ~~~

Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread morchella
18 hours in a car will cost you about 210 in gas. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community

Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
Delta and United have cheapest fares San Jose to Detroit for Monday - 662 round trip, cheaper than SFO or OAK. Only the airlines can grant reduced bereavement fares. You have to call them direct. Hotwire might also be a good choice. http://www.hotwire.com/bereavement.jsp http://www.delta.com/p

RE: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Sandra Clark
Using Kayak.com (great site for these types of things) >From lowest price per airport. San Jose looks like the cheapest, but there looks to be some non stops from San Francisco. San Francisco to Detroit - some non stops Air Trans - Lowest Prices Delta Midwest San Jose to DTW - looks like at le

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread morchella
great! sir no. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:315505 S

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
to which you said... On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:01 PM, morchella wrote: > > i got a weird look when i turned down company account. > i asked manager why i would want him or his boss to know what beer i bought > and when.. > he was shocked and asked if i am paranoid much? > > > ~~

Re: using google voice for my business listing

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
I'll check it out, thanks. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Dana wrote: > >> >> hmmm I switched away from using that number right about then, >> actually, after I had to email someone the mp3 and ask them to listen >> to it for me ;) >> >>

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread morchella
i got a weird look when i turned down company account. i asked manager why i would want him or his boss to know what beer i bought and when.. he was shocked and asked if i am paranoid much? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion commun

RE: [research help] who flies to Detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Delta goes to Detroit Metro from Chicago, so I am sure there are some flights you can take to either O'Hare or Midway. I fly to Detroit once a month to go into the office... They are also cheaper...my company is small so I am no0t exactly flying in the lap of luxury ;-). My guess is around 250is

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2010-04-09 Thread Dana
well... ok, that's true but most must have at least implemented *bad* security ie Websense or something of the kind. Due diligence no? On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:32 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dana wrote: >> >> Amen to that. And yeah, I guarantee they are denying access

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Roflsnort -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report I would be ok with both being taught as theories and letting the children decide for t

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
I find that to be an excuse...not a reason. Just because one is brought up to be told what to think instead of using their own grey matter for something other than a placeholder doesn't cut it with me. If that were the case, then all of us would be like that and there would be no free thinkers.

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
True...but a lot of them turned out to be pretty good. Look at some of the herbal preparations that we now call pharmaceuticals because they are now produced in labs rather than in the wisewoman's mortar and pestle. That could be as well. Maybe saw a komodo, then saw the head of a t-rex fossil o

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Having lived next to Texas, I would tend to agree heheheh Eric -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report Texas is not the largest state in our

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
45% is closer to 1\2 than 1\3rd. Eric -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report yes about 1/rd the US population doesn't make a mass.

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread denstar
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dana wrote: > > Amen to that. And yeah, I guarantee they are denying access at the > firewall. And that will be the least of it. A bank? They will have all > sorts of security. Ha! You'd think so, right? The vast majority of banks that do online banking still hav

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:14 PM, morchella wrote: > > right. > i do so appreciate the work. > just trying to understand why fb is ok and gmail isnt? > i put in a ticket to alow me 1 stream of 128k/second for productivity. but > my manager nixed it. > sure i can do iTurd. but live is SO much better

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > my coworker and I have had this discussion a lot lately. He thinks that > Rev. 2 will have a couple of usb ports and an SD slot along with others. I > think he's crazy. Who wants a tablet with umpteen cab

Re: Adam Churvis' Birthday today ...

2010-04-09 Thread Paul Ihrig
adam.. happy naked day.. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:31

Re: using google voice for my business listing

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Dana wrote: > > hmmm I switched away from using that number right about then, > actually, after I had to email someone the mp3 and ask them to listen > to it for me ;) > > It was about the time they announced more subtitles on youtube. ~~

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread morchella
right. i do so appreciate the work. just trying to understand why fb is ok and gmail isnt? i put in a ticket to alow me 1 stream of 128k/second for productivity. but my manager nixed it. sure i can do iTurd. but live is SO much better. music spun by a living entity is just so inline how i work..

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
my coworker and I have had this discussion a lot lately. He thinks that Rev. 2 will have a couple of usb ports and an SD slot along with others. I think he's crazy. Who wants a tablet with umpteen cables/connections coming off of it. It defeats the purpose of a portable tablet. You can se

Re: [research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
I just realized that I can re-do the right-away search and that will tell me some names. I AM flummoxed. But if someone already knows off the top of their head, please let me know, in particular, whether shooting down to LA would make this easier. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Dana wrote: > ha

Re: using google voice for my business listing

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
hmmm I switched away from using that number right about then, actually, after I had to email someone the mp3 and ask them to listen to it for me ;) On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Dana wrote: > >> >> mumble the transcripts are usually inc

[research help] who flies to detroit?

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
having a kinda family thing --- my favorite great-aunt apparently has just days left. It's not really a tragedy or unexpected (she's 92 and had a pretty good run) but if I can I'd like to say goodbye *before* the funeral. So. Last-minute fares are in the can't-do-it range, though they become le

Re: using google voice for my business listing

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Dana wrote: > > mumble the transcripts are usually incomprehensibel though > > They got a lot better lately. You notice that? maybe last month or so. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion communit

Re: Two questions

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
try uninstalling, deleting all references to it in regedit, then reinstalling. worth a shot? On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:56 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > >>> The real question - anyone know how I can force an old 32-bit >>> installshield installer to load a program on Windows XP?  Darn thing >>>

Re: using google voice for my business listing

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
mumble the transcripts are usually incomprehensibel though On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Google voice FTW! > > Been using it since it was GrandCentral. One of the best services I use > every day from Google... besides email. > > Screening everyone is PRICELESS! :)

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread Dana
Amen to that. And yeah, I guarantee they are denying access at the firewall. And that will be the least of it. A bank? They will have all sorts of security. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:38 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Word > > I ain't got one > > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Rich [mai

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2010-04-09 Thread Medic
hahaha On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > It's awesome though. > > > > > > Yeah, it was a nice set. a bunch of crazy shit going on in that set if you > know those tracks. > > > Funny s

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Robert Munn
join the "I'm WIth Adobe" group on Facebook. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > http://www.itworld.com/development/104030/apple-slams-door-adobes-packager-i > phone?source=ITWNLE_nlt_today_2010-04-09.cfm >

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Robert Munn
greed On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > one word, > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffu

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2010-04-09 Thread Tony
HAH! Sent from my iPhone... don't hate On Apr 9, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> It's awesome though. >> >> > > Yeah, it was a nice set. a bunch of crazy shit going on in that set > if you > know those tracks. > > > Funny statu

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2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Medic wrote: > > It's awesome though. > > Yeah, it was a nice set. a bunch of crazy shit going on in that set if you know those tracks. Funny status update from one of my friends on FB today. >From a random book of Zen meditations I have at work ..."In walking

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2010-04-09 Thread Medic
It's awesome though. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > Wow, the "Tasty Cyanide Radio Mix" by Parasite is fucking crazy. > > > > > Yeah a bit of Glitchstep to start things off. > > >

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2010-04-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
>From the Huff Post http://huff.to/dzcuxX ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/messag

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
As of the last numbers released from the census, California population in the 5-17 year age group is roughly 6.6 million. Texas is roughly 4.6 million. I'm sure the Texas approved books are not pleasant to review, but they are by far not the largest state in either area or school population. htt

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
I would be ok with both being taught as theories and letting the children decide for themselves. However, letting kids actually think is not what is wanted in our current culture. As for taking the Bible literally, if you want to make their head spin, ask them "which version of the Bible?" and i

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In terms of school population, Texas is the largest state. Because of that the state exerts a major influence on textbooks. I'm suffering that right now, since I'm on the textbook review committee for the local school board. You wouldn't believe some of the Texas approved crap that I've had to loo

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
I had a heated debate on Facebook with some of my cousins who live in Texas when I suggested that perhaps they could consider evolution as the mechanism by which the Creator did his work. That the assumption of creation occurring in six 24 hour days disregards later comments in the Bible regardin

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And a lot of the recommended remedies could kill. For instance a common remedy in Roman times involved a lot of mercury and other heavy metals. As for the legends, I would also suspect traveler's tales that grew in the telling. Some trader came to Madagascar, saw a komodo dragon, and brought home

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
Texas is not the largest state in our country. Alaska is. Some people don't think Texas is part of our country at all, but just an unfortunate acquisition we can't get rid of. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Dude...didn't the largest State in your country vote to teach > intel

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Maureen
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > There are too many discrepancies for me to personally believe we evolved from > apes. Nothing in evolutionary theory claims we descended from apes. The theory is that man and ape had a common ancestor, and the evidence is fairly strong t

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
yes about 1/rd the US population doesn't make a mass. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Sam wrote: > > I didn't say they don't exist, just that they don't make up the masses. > > I see we're back to evolution vs creation again. I believe if worded > correctly you'd find most accept both. But that'

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Medic wrote: > > Wow, the "Tasty Cyanide Radio Mix" by Parasite is fucking crazy. > > Yeah a bit of Glitchstep to start things off. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they

Re: help... cut off

2010-04-09 Thread Medic
Wow, the "Tasty Cyanide Radio Mix" by Parasite is fucking crazy. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Morchella Deliciosa wrote: > > >On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:52 PM, morchella >wrote: > > > > > >this is working in IE, give it a try and let me know... > > > >http://dvsdjtv.com/bassdrive/ > > > Thanks

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
If that were so, we would see the state of Kansas trying to insert Creationism into the curriculum. Evolution as a theory or Creationism as a theory can be correct, not both. You accept one or the other...these are 2 diametrically opposed theories because with Creationism, there is only room for

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
They also had an amazing knowledge of herbs and their medicinal uses...some of which we are just now rediscovering. The difference between that and something like evolution or the big bang is that you are delving into theoretical science where you don't always have complete physical evidence. In

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
I guess I just don't hang in the same circles as you folk :P On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I used to live in SW Louisiana and yes...I have met more than my share.  It > is amazing how one can be blind to facts and how people choose to remain > ignorant...or as I call it

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
I didn't say they don't exist, just that they don't make up the masses. I see we're back to evolution vs creation again. I believe if worded correctly you'd find most accept both. But that's just my opinion. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > classic logical fallacy. Argu

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So what does that have to do with it? Expertise in one field doesn't necessarily give you expertise in another. What has building pyramids have to do with understanding evolutionary theory or understanding biological processes. That said, fwiw the classical age Greeks, the Romans and the Ancient

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
I used to live in SW Louisiana and yes...I have met more than my share. It is amazing how one can be blind to facts and how people choose to remain ignorant...or as I call it, a state of self enforced stupidity (stupidity because someone who is truly stupid cannot or will not be educated...ignora

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2010-04-09 Thread Morchella Deliciosa
>On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:52 PM, morchella wrote: > > >this is working in IE, give it a try and let me know... > >http://dvsdjtv.com/bassdrive/ Thanks guys. that doesn't work but no biggie. they block gmail-mk but not facebook-wtf?? any how found some good stuff here http://www.mixcloud.com/para

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
classic logical fallacy. Argument from silence(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_silence). Since you have not seen it it doesn't exist. Just look at the survey numbers, over a third of all respondents in various national polls decry evolution and advocate a biblical version of how humani

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I personally never saw the conflict. Ancient man didn't know what we know > about biology and other sciences. But they could build pyramids and track stars with amazing levels of accuracy, and yet, we st

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
No, I never met one which is why I think their numbers are few. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Ever talk with a true believer, a classic biblical literalist? They > have no doubts about human (and any other) evolution. In their mind it > did not happen. Everything is i

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread G Money
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Ever talk with a true believer, a classic biblical literalist? They > have no doubts about human (and any other) evolution. In their mind it > did not happen. Everything is immutable and fixed at time of creation. > > I find it very inter

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Ever talk with a true believer, a classic biblical literalist? They have no doubts about human (and any other) evolution. In their mind it did not happen. Everything is immutable and fixed at time of creation. I find it very interesting to watch the semantic gyrations they go into when confronted

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
I would disagree...those who are opposed to evolution and believe in creationism take a literal interpretation of the Bible's creation myth. I personally never saw the conflict. Ancient man didn't know what we know about biology and other sciences. Much like the pagans cultures before them, wha

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
I don't think many doubt we've evolved, it's deciding what we've evolved from that confuses them. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Nope...that is why is called the Big Bang THEORY not Big Bang LAW ;-) > > Human arrogance, I believe, is what keeps many for really accepting

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
The cost of the cameras, which partly influenced which medium the home-made and amateur porn industry chose, which partly influenced the early adopters, which influenced the movie rental and mail-order stores. iirc, the betamax cameras were about 3x as expensive. The betamax tapes were originally

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Medic wrote: > Betamax still throws me for a loop. The quality compared to VHS was unreal. > I still don't know why it flopped. > because the porn industry went with VHS ~| Want to reach the Co

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
one word, Marketing. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Medic wrote: > > Betamax still throws me for a loop. The quality compared to VHS was unreal. > I still don't know why it flopped. > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >> >> Kinda like

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Nope...that is why is called the Big Bang THEORY not Big Bang LAW ;-) Human arrogance, I believe, is what keeps many for really accepting evolution. Accepting that were are little more than really intelligent animals flies in the face of some...especially those who strictly adhere to Judeo-Chris

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Medic
Betamax still throws me for a loop. The quality compared to VHS was unreal. I still don't know why it flopped. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Kinda like how Sony thought betamax was the way to go? *grin* > > Eric > > -Original Messa

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Darwin never said we descended from apes and the theory of evolution does not claim that we descended from apes...only that we have a common ancestor that we share with other primates. While that is popularly attributed to him, it was one of his students that said that (Adolphus Huxley if I remem

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
I should start selling some of my foil hats. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > For the same reason they got rid of floppies on laptops. And serial ports. > > They are assuming that the cloud is the way to go, for most or all > applications. And they are forcing that change

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Data? Vague suppositions and speculation are not worth very much. about the same value of over ripe manure from a bull with diarrhea. In other words unless you'r ein the organic fertilizer business they are not worth much. As for the artifact thing there could be many explanations for that, but

RE: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Kinda like how Sony thought betamax was the way to go? *grin* Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly... For the same reason they got rid of floppie

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Sam
I was taught, way back in the 60's, that the Big Bang Theory wasn't proven. Did that change? As for the Animal thing, I know people that forgot humans are part of the animal kingdom, so "species of animals" might have thrown them off. Still embarrassing but for a different reason :)

Re: Apple securing it iron fisted monopoly...

2010-04-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
For the same reason they got rid of floppies on laptops. And serial ports. They are assuming that the cloud is the way to go, for most or all applications. And they are forcing that change to the user ecosystem. Assuming they are right, maybe we will see some bluetooth devices that handle extern

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > There are too many discrepancies for me to personally believe we evolved > from apes. Out of curiosity, which discrepancies are you referring to? > As for the Big Bang.. OK so what happened before the big bang? There are many theories on

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
I cannot get past that first page, to take _anything_ that site says seriously. Their very open bias makes it unreadable for me. I do appreciate the warning, though, right at the start. That was cool. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > http

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
It was probably taught in the context of literature...not scientific fact... Eric -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:40 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report On

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Something that is very interesting that doesn't get talked about much in this is according to Kabbalistic beliefs (Jewish mysticism) there is a belief called the shattering of the vessels, where (the quick synopsis) the divine light kept getting poured into a big vessel where it eventually burst,

RE: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Roberts
Especially since we didn't evolve from apes...but we do have a common ancestor ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:21 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Repor

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Ray Champagne
You can tell you are a dad to three girls. That was such a dad joke. :) On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've always loved Norse mythology but I'm still an Athorist. > > > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > >

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > what discrepancies? simply because the evidence disagrees with a bit > of paper based on oral traditions written over 2000 years ago by butt > ignorant tribesman who had no knowledge of biology etc. > > Given the choice I'd go with the cu

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I've always loved Norse mythology but I'm still an Athorist. On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Greek Mythology was one of my favorite courses I took as a GenEd credit > course in college. Random thought. > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Casey Dougall < > ca...@ub

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread G Money
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > You didn't have a Greek mythology class? I did in like 6th grade. > > Nope. Never had one in elementary school. In both high school and college, it was offered as an elective, but I never took it. Still,

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Unfortunately what is taught in the schools has very little resemblance to evolutionary biology. Its a washed out watered down version intended to keep the fundies from screaming too loud about it. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jerry Johnson

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Ray Champagne
Greek Mythology was one of my favorite courses I took as a GenEd credit course in college. Random thought. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM, G Money wrote: > > > I wouldn't blame the educational system..

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what discrepancies? simply because the evidence disagrees with a bit of paper based on oral traditions written over 2000 years ago by butt ignorant tribesman who had no knowledge of biology etc. Given the choice I'd go with the current evolutionary theory. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Casey

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2010-04-09 Thread LRS Scout
Quite a bit more wrong with me than that, I wish it were that easy haha. You're right though it's hardest on those that depend on us for food and income. Thank god my baby mama works and we're really close right now. -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Frid

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:34 PM, G Money wrote: > I wouldn't blame the educational system.evolutionary biology is what is > taught in school. Mythology is taught in the home. > You didn't have a Greek mythology class? I did in like 6th grade. ~~

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Medic
*rimshot* He's here all week folks, try the veal. HAHAHAHA. That was a really good one JJ. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > From what I can remember, lots of drinking. > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Casey Dougall < > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > > A

Re: Tim, check this out.

2010-04-09 Thread Medic
Ah, perhaps you suffer from the same debilitating disease that I have. Foot-in-Mouth Disease. A horrible affliction, especially for those close to us. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:16 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I, as I'm wont to do, out wore my welcome. > > My fault 100%. > > -Original Message---

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread G Money
Largest state in our country by area is Alaska. I believe our most populous state is California. Texas is just our dumbest state. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Dude...didn't the largest State in your country vote to teach > intelligent design instead of Evolution or someth

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread G Money
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > No, but it is truly an embarrassment to me personally, and a sad, sad, sad > indictment on my country and our educational system. > > I wouldn't blame the educational system.evolutionary biology is what is taught in school. Mythology

Re: FW: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Vivec
Dude...didn't the largest State in your country vote to teach intelligent design instead of Evolution or something like that? Texas state board? On 9 April 2010 12:01, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > No, but it is truly an embarrassment to me personally, and a sad, sad, sad > indictment on my country a

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