Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Mandatory elementary school up to a full diploma. Get some education into her. The only way to cure stupid is education. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Dana wrote: > > hmm and Palin? > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Michael Dinowitz > wrote: >> >> The punishment should fit the crime. A yea

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
hmm and Palin? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > The punishment should fit the crime. A years sentence where anyone who > wants can come into his house, move or use anything they want and > change the locks when they leave. > > -- > Michael Dinowitz > > > > > On Sun, M

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The punishment should fit the crime. A years sentence where anyone who wants can come into his house, move or use anything they want and change the locks when they leave. -- Michael Dinowitz On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Much as I dislike the woman in question, breaking

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
look, if you aren't going to discuss this in good faith, I have things to do and getting tarred with that brush you are waving around would get in the way of doing them, so... I will say (I think for the fifth time now) that yes yes of course it is a crime and no I don't think it was ok. I'd appr

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Just so I understand. It's OK to hack into someone's private email account so long as the person who is getting hacked is stupid when it comes to the security on that account? Regardless of what she did or did not do and regardless of the content of the email messages that were read, Palin was t

anyone out there up for a resume review?

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
I just realized I really hate the old one and I sent this to the person who asked for the rewrite, but I could appreciate a second or third pair of eyes checking for typos and other wierdnesses before I put it up anywhere... ~|

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
ok in what world does a prospective president circumvent an entire IT department trying to prevent exactly this, do so SO THAT SHE CAN EVADE THE LAW, and then get to whine? I don't know what sentence the kid got. I gather it wasn't community service. Fine. I disagree but that changes nothing.

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Dana wrote: > > I do, especially in this case. She testified at his trial and when > they asked her why she chose such an easy-to-guess security question > she said that she wasn't trying to keep the answer secret. Headsmack. > > See my point? If your point is tha

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Maureen
Much as I dislike the woman in question, breaking into an email account is and should be a crime and the punishment should fit the crime regardless of the identity, public or otherwise, of the victim. Or the strength of her password. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Dana wrote: > > I do, especial

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
It is still a crime, no matter what analogy you tie to it. The fact that the victim may have been 'stupid' does not make it any less fo a crime and does not make him any less guilty of committing that crime. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > a more correct analogy wo

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
a more correct analogy would be someone who walked into your house, looked at a bunch of stuff, then left and changed the locks. the guy didn't actually steal anything...at least as far as I can tell. > > > So, if you purposely leave your house unlocked, it would be OK for > someone to just

Re: Ubuntu 10.04

2010-05-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
nope, Lucid Lynx On May 2, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Dana wrote: > > is that modest meercat? > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> >> Upgraded all of my boxes at home this weekend. All were mythbuntu boxes and >> all went great. >> >> >> On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:32 AM,

Re: Ubuntu 10.04

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
is that modest meercat? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Upgraded all of my boxes at home this weekend.  All were mythbuntu boxes and > all went great. > > > On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > >> >> Resistance is futile! >> >> >> -Original Message

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Eric Roberts
No...but don’t be surprised when they do. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:57 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! So, if you purposely leave your house unlocked, it would be OK for someone to ju

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Actually the ability of the federal government to effect interstate commerce is well documented...even ruled on by the supreme court. Nice try...next... Eric -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE:

Re: Ubuntu 10.04

2010-05-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Upgraded all of my boxes at home this weekend. All were mythbuntu boxes and all went great. On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Resistance is futile! > > > -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 30

Re: National Enquirer at It Again: Obama Cheating Scandal

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
Huh. Never would have think it. Neither would they mind you if the box hadn't told them to On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I am sure the teabaggers love it." > > I don't think the teabaggers care.  They don't need sex scandals to drive > dislike for Obama, his policies a

Re: National Enquirer at It Again: Obama Cheating Scandal

2010-05-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I am sure the teabaggers love it." I don't think the teabaggers care. They don't need sex scandals to drive dislike for Obama, his policies are enough. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let t

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2010-05-02 Thread Matthew P. Smith
last good one i played was warcraft 3. prefer steam. drop it. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/group

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
I have not seen what the sentence was. And I am not saying he did nothing wrong. He was stupid and so was she. But you know how that saying goes - I may be fat but you are stupid, and I can diet? Ever hear that one? He was dumb, she was dumber, but there's still hope for him. On Sun, May 2, 201

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > hacking an fool does not mean the guy is any less guilty. > > That said, I think the guy got a much stiffer sentence than if he had > done the same to a neighbour. > I think I am inclined to agree with you on that. -- Scott Stroz -

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
hacking an fool does not mean the guy is any less guilty. That said, I think the guy got a much stiffer sentence than if he had done the same to a neighbour. Equal justice before the law has often been shown to be more of an ideal than a practice. I think that this is a typical example. On Sun,

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
So, if you purposely leave your house unlocked, it would be OK for someone to just walk in a take stuff? Or is it only if you think the person leaving themselves open to attack are stupid or disagree with your political ideology? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Dana wrote: > > I do, especially

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
I do, especially in this case. She testified at his trial and when they asked her why she chose such an easy-to-guess security question she said that she wasn't trying to keep the answer secret. Headsmack. See my point? Mind you, the idiot at Yahoo who wrote the stupid question, which would be e

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Just because he found 'wrongdoing' does not give him a pass. "Yes your honor, I did take his wallet from his jacket but to be fair, he left the jacket on a chair and I found a picture of him with a woman other than his wife. His bad should outweigh mine." I'm not arguing on whatever sentence he m

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
OK, first 'crooked politician' is redundant. You cannot get to the level VP or presidential level without some skeletons in your closet. SOme are juts better at keeping them hidden or making people believe the skeletons don't actually exist. I don't think the criteria of 'is the person dangerous

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-05-02 Thread Vivec
Very sorries :( best thoughts with you. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.c

Re: Please keep my dad in your thoughts....

2010-05-02 Thread Cameron Childress
So sorry to hear Scott, but in a way it's good to hear that he's in good spirits. Make the most of the time you have with him and know what all of our thoughts are with you and your family. -Cameron On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Today has been a rough day. This morning

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
The 10th amendment. BTW I agree on the other points and you know it. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:03 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! Like warrantless wiretapping. Like pillaging the nati

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
Like warrantless wiretapping. Like pillaging the nation's resources for eight years on behalf of people who were sending it so swiss bank accounts. I don't even see how you get health care as unconstitutional. So was emancipation once upon a time. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:16 AM, LRS Scout wrote

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
he's less than a script kiddy. He's a total amateur. Did he have any kind of a record? You guys are going to make me go read the news stories, aren't you... I do not have time for that shineola! I have stuff to do. But the danger he currently represents to society is pretty small, and the danger t

Re: National Enquirer at It Again: Obama Cheating Scandal

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
I am sure the teabaggers love it. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > It's interesting to follow the Vera Baker story on twitter.  A lot of > traffic. > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with so

Re: National Enquirer at It Again: Obama Cheating Scandal

2010-05-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
It's interesting to follow the Vera Baker story on twitter. A lot of traffic. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoff

Re: National Enquirer at It Again: Obama Cheating Scandal

2010-05-02 Thread Vivec
They blew up the National Enquirer. I can't get to the link anymore. 0_0 On 2 May 2010 08:33, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Here's the link: > > http://www.nationalenquirer.com/reports_obama_cheating_scandal_vera_baker_investigation/celebrity/68590 > > Summary: Obama had and affair with Vera Bake

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Sam
You mean prison, jail is a cake walk. If he get's six months or less he's got nothing to worry about, unless of course he's an asshole. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Dana wrote: > > can't remember if he is an adult but if he is 19 or 20 he's basically > shark chum if he goes to jail, is my poi

Re: Have Republicans even read the Constitution?

2010-05-02 Thread Sam
There like three or four countries that we allow dual citizenship for, the rest you're supposed to surrender your passport when you become a citizen but I hear a lot people just say the lost it. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Dana wrote: > > Those are US citizens born in the US who are naturali

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
Don't break the law. I weighed 100 pounds soaking wet and made it through the system. Hope he has a tooth brush hahah -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:38 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! can'

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
Like health care? -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:24 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! you're such a victim ;) I just happen to think that perverting the constitution under cover of authority i

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
word -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:13 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! I can't help but think that if this guy 'hacked' into Obama's email account that people would be calling for blood.

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
You're coming at this from the point of view of an ethical hacker and professional. I assure you on the black hat side of things you know as well as I do that the intrusion method isn't as important as the intrusion itself. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] S

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
TY, I was gonna say. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Dana wrote: > but it's not a jail time thing in a world where S

RE: Have Republicans even read the Constitution?

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
That's the truth. That should be in the constitution: Leave me the fuck alone. -Original Message- From: morchella [mailto:morchella.delici...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 10:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have Republicans even read the Constitution? every one needs to

RE: Have Republicans even read the Constitution?

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
I have I have -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Have Republicans even read the Constitution? You've never been to BC. That is obvious. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Eric Roberts

RE: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread LRS Scout
So then dumpster diving and shoulder surfing aren't hacking either? You know better than that Dana. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! actually I think the

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
can't remember if he is an adult but if he is 19 or 20 he's basically shark chum if he goes to jail, is my point On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I think he should get some jail time.  Nothing serious though.  A month or > maybe even weekends for 2 or 3 months.  Much more

National Enquirer at It Again: Obama Cheating Scandal

2010-05-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
Here's the link: http://www.nationalenquirer.com/reports_obama_cheating_scandal_vera_baker_investigation/celebrity/68590 Summary: Obama had and affair with Vera Baker during his 2004 Senate Campaign. This is an old story. I can remember reading about it during the 2008 election campaign. For

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Dana
you're such a victim ;) I just happen to think that perverting the constitution under cover of authority is a bigger issue than invading the privacy of a public figure who is misbehaving. Sue me ;) On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I can't help but think that if this guy 'ha

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
I think he should get some jail time. Nothing serious though. A month or maybe even weekends for 2 or 3 months. Much more effective punishment that doesn't derail a life completely. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community w

Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!

2010-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I can't help but think that if this guy 'hacked' into Obama's email account that people would be calling for blood. On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > This is a good result for anyone interested in their own privacy. I > don't think the kid should get 20 years for it, but th