Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Here, btw, is the Media Matters timeline on what happened when for those who care: http://mediamatters.org/research/201007220004 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Are those time stamps possibly showing up local time? Sam is east > coast, if I recall, and Maureen is west co

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
So that would a no? On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Sam wrote: > > That's rich. > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> Is there any clueless neo-con that you don't love? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Ant

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
How about accepting people for how they label themselves? I hang out in a lot of communities where self identification is important. A person tells me that they think of themselves as a "he", I'll use masculine pronouns with him. Obama wants to consider himself black because he feels that that is

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Are those time stamps possibly showing up local time? Sam is east coast, if I recall, and Maureen is west coast. That would explain the difference between 6:22 PM and 3:22 PM On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Maureen wrote: > > This is a direct copy and paste from > http://www.foxnews.com/politic

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread trish simon
So glad to hear that we are protecting our children from the stereotypes and misrepresentations spewed by the Media. Who is protecting us adults, the ones who should know better? Again, as individuals we need to be cautious of allowing the media to influence our speech, thoughts and actions. Look

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
That's rich. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Is there any clueless neo-con that you don't love? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinow

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Your on left coast. Come to the right coast and read it. It says 6:22 PM Or set your computer to Eastern Time and reload. Shees. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Maureen wrote: > > This is a direct copy and paste from > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/19/clip-shows-usda-official-admitt

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I do not refer to Tiger Woods as a 'black' golfer to my children or anyone else for that matter." Excellent. "That is how the media describes him." Exactly. "I do not refer to president Obama as the 'black' president to my children or anyone else for that matter. " Excellent. "That is ho

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
Is there any clueless neo-con that you don't love? On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Sam wrote: > > They most likely were his. He was a great thinker, writer, and > speaker. Doesn't mean you have to like any of those. ~| Order t

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > described him - they seem to have backed off on the 'African American' > tag ever since he got elected. Because it's doesn't make sense except when they're actually African American. I have a white friend that really is African-American.

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
This is a direct copy and paste from http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/19/clip-shows-usda-official-admitting-withheld-help-white-farmer/#commenting when posts are sorted by the oldest first. Monday, July 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM and a screen capture of same: http://vonspace.com/stuff/foxnewsco

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Obama is African American but I don't thing Woods is. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:05 PM, trish simon wrote: > > Tiger Woods, "One-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African > American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch." = Black? > > President Obama,  "Mother white Amer

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > Not relevant to my point. I guess I am not really sure what your point is, to be honest. > > I disagree. Obama doesn't deliver he reads. Head constantly back and > force, pauses for emphasis. It looks like an audition. Then we disagree on this.

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I still say he is far and away better than Bush when going 'off script'. We wouldn't know because he's rarely off script and when he does the press won't report it. When Bush was president the press focused on his mistakes. > There were ti

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
I do not refer to Tiger Woods as a 'black' golfer to my children or anyone else for that matter. That is how the media describes him. I do not refer to president Obama as the 'black' president to my children or anyone else for that matter. That is how the media described him - they seem to have b

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > If you were truly paying attention, I gave props to Reagan as well. Not relevant to my point. > I think Obama, like Reagan, is a great speaker. I think both posses > the ability to not just read a speech, but to deliver it. Its hard for >

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
Tiger Woods, "One-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch." = Black? Yeah. It's confusing: Tiger still only black golfer on PGA Tour President Obama, "Mother white American, Dad

Re: Google Apps & iPhone

2010-07-25 Thread J.J. Merrick
I have found the ActiveSync stuff that gmail lets you do works rather nicely... Do you just not like the Mail.app on the iPhone? -J.J. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, ColdFusion Developer wrote: > > I finally migrated from Exchange to Google Apps. > Now I prefer using the GMail interface for

Re: Health care: There Law of Unintended Consequences . . .maybe

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Does that mean that you think someone who goes to school to become a doctor should not be allowed to make money off of their chosen careers?" Not paying doctors a fair market value is a sure way to make up the 40% shortage in Mass and the general shortage around the country. J - “The reforms

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread trish simon
"Well, for starters, he is black - at least that what the media has been ramming down our throats since they fell in love with him quite a few years back." Same thing with Tiger Woods. J" Tiger Woods, "One-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native Americ

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"There were times over his presidency, a lot of times, where Bush just sounded like a fucking moron. Not saying he was a moron, but he sure sounded like one." He wasn't eloquent. Also, you had the benefit of the MSM showing every gaffe Bush made. For some reason Obama's gaffe's don't get as muc

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
I still say he is far and away better than Bush when going 'off script'. There were times over his presidency, a lot of times, where Bush just sounded like a fucking moron. Not saying he was a moron, but he sure sounded like one. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "He deli

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
If you were truly paying attention, I gave props to Reagan as well. I think Obama, like Reagan, is a great speaker. I think both posses the ability to not just read a speech, but to deliver it. Its hard for me to quantify the difference, but I think a lot of people can understand my meaning. A g

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He delivers speeches, more often than not, his predecessor read them, or tried to at least." He can deliver his speeches. And deliver them well. It's when he goes off script that he sticks his foot in his mouth. The whole Joe the Plumber issue is a great example. The teleprompter is a necessa

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
I think it's amazing that we can elect a black president but we can't question his spending without being called racists. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I haven't seen any racist signs. Are you sure they're not DNC plants?" > > Not out of the question. > > Check out th

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
I do. Folks on this list are claiming Reagan was an idiot who could read aloud. Now you're saying you like that quality. I don't. I'm not judging Obama, just saying you need to have higher standards. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Who cares? regardless fo whether he us

Re: Health care: There Law of Unintended Consequences . . .maybe

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
Two more articles on health care reform. These deal with the tester cake Massachusetts. Obama himself said that the national plan and those of Mass. were essentially the same so it's not unreasonable to believe these might be problems with the national plan. http://www.boston.com/news/health/

Re: Health care: There Law of Unintended Consequences . . .maybe

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
Does that mean that you think someone who goes to school to become a doctor should not be allowed to make money off of their chosen careers? (not trying to put words in your mouth, trying to get clarification). What would be next? Eliminating for profit food production? You cannot survive with ou

Google Apps & iPhone

2010-07-25 Thread ColdFusion Developer
I finally migrated from Exchange to Google Apps. Now I prefer using the GMail interface for the iPhone rather than the native email app. My question is: Does anyone use Google Apps EMail (Domain) and a iPhone app for it rather than the native app? If so, what is it and does it do push notificatio

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
Who cares? regardless fo whether he uses a teleprompter or not or writes his own speeches or not, he is a great orator. Like him or not, you cannot take that away from him. There is a big difference between delivering a speech and reading one. He delivers speeches, more often than not, his predec

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
just the thought of my little pon porn makes me want to wash my eyes out with lye. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Don't click the link, the US Government Censors replaced it with My > Little Pony Porn!!! > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Vivec wrote: >> >> http://w

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I haven't seen any racist signs. Are you sure they're not DNC plants?" Not out of the question. Check out the history of crashtheteaparty.org. The site has now down now for whatever reason. Probably for the negative publicity the outed owner received. >From the site: WHO WE ARE: A nationwid

RE: DNS Help

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Raley
Yes but this problem is over 96 hours old. Thanks -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: DNS Help Well, since I've never heard of a psmtp server, I guess I'm not going to be very helpful. I

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
They most likely were his. He was a great thinker, writer, and speaker. Doesn't mean you have to like any of those. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Still doesn't make him a great man.  The point being that the line > from the speech which was being used to deify him was writ

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > No...it the racist signs the Tea party displays at their events that makes > them racist... I haven't seen any racist signs. Are you sure they're not DNC plants? > quit making up lies Sam.  And yes...it is racist to ask for > his birth ce

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Maybe you should look into government work. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I am not better off than I was 2 years ago, but then I would have said that > going back every 2 years up you Bush first stealing the office of president. > My better off'ness has been declining

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Did you notice he's always using a teleprompter? Makes it look easy doesn't it :) On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I will say one thing about President Obama. I may not agree with him > on a lot of issues, but damn that man can speak. It is so refreshing > to listen to hi

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
First post: What a nice person. Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:22 PM On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I find it interesting that the story shown in the link you posted > shows an image from Foxnews.com that has a July 19 date  now has July > 20 published date on their website,

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I suppose you're going to tell me that I'm not getting that free trip to Disneyland from Bill Gates next. On Jul 25, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Is this mailing list really _this_ dumb? > > This is the same "bill" that has been circulating for 12 years on the net, > threatenin

Re: DNS Help

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Well, since I've never heard of a psmtp server, I guess I'm not going to be very helpful. I one thing I will mention though is that the default cache value on most dns records is 48 hours, so changes can take awhile to show up. And border cacheing servers at bigger ISPs will often cache records be

RE: DNS Help

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Raley
The entire email I get back with a blank error message was in the original post. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: DNS Help What is the actual error that is being returned, it doesn't s

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
You ought to make it $10 million per list. Double it, at least, for cf-comm. The line monster has a lot of work to do here. Maybe cut them a deal on the JRun and .Net lists to sweeten the pot. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Any time they want to pay me 10 million do

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Any time they want to pay me 10 million dollars cash for HoF then they can be in charge of the line monster all they want. :) (Yes, that's the only amount I'd accept for HoF. Not even 1 cent less. I'm that crazy. :)) -- Michael Dinowitz Lead Author - Adobe Coldfusion Anthology http://www.amazon.

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
How many blogs have shown up the 'mainstream media' by exposing fake news, especially photos that have been manipulated? Maybe (some of) the blogs are acting as gatekeepers for the media? or at least fact checkers. -- Michael Dinowitz Lead Author - Adobe Coldfusion Anthology http://www.amazon.com

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
Still doesn't make him a great man. The point being that the line from the speech which was being used to deify him was written by someone else - not his words, so I fail to see how the fact that he spoke them gives him any creds at all. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Maureen wrote: > > What we all need to do is turn off cable news completely.  Just take > away their bully pulpit by granting them only the notice they are > worthy of...to wit, none. I decided not to get cable TV with my Internet service. Now we just have Comcas

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Don't click the link, the US Government Censors replaced it with My Little Pony Porn!!! On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/afghanistan-war-logs-military-leaks > > :) >

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
As a filmmaker, I'm sure you are quite aware that making a film has little to do with making a speech to an audience. The skills of a good orator are more closely compared to those of stage actors and film actors generally have a lot of respect for stage actors. Obviously, being a good stage actor

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Vivec
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/afghanistan-war-logs-military-leaks :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion A

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
I'm a filmmaker and a sound tech. I spend a lot of time with a lot of people who can memorize and deliver lines. Most of them are dumb as a box of rocks. We refer to them derisively as "talent". I don't want any of them to be President. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >

Re: England plans to decentralize health care

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKdmp0kEWTo On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > We're spoiled beyond belief and usually only care about "me me me me me" and > what *I* can get, not what is good for the community as a whole. ~~

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Google is now in charge of the House of Fusion Line Monster! They > are eating your links! I am in your emailz eating your linkz!!! -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe C

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
The US Government has already caught on! Through an illicit Halliburton-like partnership with the Obama administration, Google is now in charge of the House of Fusion Line Monster! They are eating your links! On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010

Re: 92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Vivec wrote: > Here's the link > Air-bll! -Cameron ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/

92,000 Secret Files released on Afghanistan! Reveals Massive Civilian Casualties and Iran involvement!

2010-07-25 Thread Vivec
did I...was that sensational enough? I was going to say Reveals hundreds killed..but I thought that would be pushing it... Anyways :-) Wikileaks really HAS released the massive stockpile of data that it was given on Afghanistan. These classified documents show numerous incidents resulting in ci

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
I was still working as a paramedic during Bush I and Clinton. I switched over to IT shortly after Bush II took office. I also am aware that Bush had little direct impact on how well I did in IT and also how little direct impact Obama had in me losing my job recently. Those are the other things th

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
If so, that went completely over my head. Which would be awesome. I always much prefer missing a joke than feeling like I am standing alone hip-deep in the torrent of forwarded stupidity that seems to be more and more what passes for discourse on the interwebs these days. I actually think that t

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Never read either. Thousands of others but not those. You should read them. The LOTR series is great fun, though the first book drags a bit at the start. As for Atlas Shrugged, well, didn't think it was a terribly good book, but I thin

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
I thought that Casey and Jerry were being sarcastic and it was a joke about the need for gatekeepers. Maybe I assumed incorrectly? Judah On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Is this mailing list really _this_ dumb? > > This is the same "bill" that has been circulating for 1

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Never read either. Thousands of others but not those. -- Michael Dinowitz Lead Author - Adobe Coldfusion Anthology http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Quote of the Day: "T

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
Is this mailing list really _this_ dumb? This is the same "bill" that has been circulating for 12 years on the net, threatening to tax email messages. http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/bill602p.asp At least rail against something real, for the love of God. Jerry On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:1

Re: DNS Help

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
What is the actual error that is being returned, it doesn't seem to showing in the email you sent. SPF records shouldn't be required and they should only be checked by the remote hosts when trying to decide if your messages are spam. Of course, I've never set up Postini, so they may be different.

Re: England plans to decentralize health care

2010-07-25 Thread Erika L. Rich
We're spoiled beyond belief and usually only care about "me me me me me" and what *I* can get, not what is good for the community as a whole. Side note: yes, I'm generalizing. :) On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > What the fuck is wrong with us? > > Judah > >

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Maureen wrote: > > So he was a great man because he can memorize and deliver a line? > Sets the bar kinda low, doesn't it? Oddly, no. Most people are really horrid public speakers. They have difficulty memorizing a speech and connection with an audience. Masterin

Re: Google's cozy relationship with the WH

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
"Free Press disputes this description – stating that its income comes from Foundations and private individuals, rather than directly from the Chocolate Factory itself" The Chocolate Factory? WTF does that mean? Is it a weird Willy Wonka reference that doesn't make any sense to me or is it a racia

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Makes it kinda hard to have been posted at 6pm if there is a comment at 3:22, huh? -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news I find it interesting that th

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > However the US does have a history in > terms of racism. Remember we're only 3 generations from race based > slavery, How did they get here? Was it really an America only issue? What about us Jews? You think we're loved by all and allway

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Not according to several other sites...including the one I posted. Fox News had it up then took it down shortly after Brietbart posted it. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReil

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
So he was a great man because he can memorize and deliver a line? Sets the bar kinda low, doesn't it? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Doesn't matter if he wrote it or thought of , he delivered it. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Maureen wrote: >> >> He was an actor

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
Yep. I thought Kanye West's comment about Bush post-Katrina was totally racist. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Would you think the same thing of a black person who criticized Bush? ~| Order the Adobe C

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
I find it interesting that the story shown in the link you posted shows an image from Foxnews.com that has a July 19 date now has July 20 published date on their website, although it still has comments dated July 19 - with the first one being posted at 3:22 PM. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/20

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"There is a bible verse that is appropriate here. Something about a beam and a mote. " How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you don't see the beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you'll see clea

Google's cozy relationship with the WH

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
yes, they are comparing it to Halliburton: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/23/googleburton/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=h

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > For many of > these people I think such things like the president not being born in > the US, socialism accusations etc., is nice cover for their own > racism. Would you think the same thing of a black person who criticized Bush? -- Sc

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It also states that shortly after Breitbart posted it, foxnews.com had the > video on their site, which has since been removed. But she lied as she always does. Foxnews.com didn't post it until 6pmish > Doesn't she too, admit when she get

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
It is possible to respect the office and not respect the holder of the office, especially if said holder is using the office for his own agenda and gain - Nixon comes to mind. In cases like that, pointing out the failure of the man is not only our right, it's our responsibility. The problem curr

RE: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
No...it the racist signs the Tea party displays at their events that makes them racist...quit making up lies Sam. And yes...it is racist to ask for his birth certificate...especially when this is an ongoing thing even after Hawaii showed it. If Obama would have been white, no one would have ever

RE: DNS Help

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Raley
Yes its in to them, the domain registar and you guys. The registar says its because postini is looking for the "mail" alias that was there pointing to the exchange server and I accidentally removed it when adding in new MX records since it was an MX record. I didn't add it back in as an alias whic

RE: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
I am not better off than I was 2 years ago, but then I would have said that going back every 2 years up you Bush first stealing the office of president. My better off'ness has been declining since. I do see things getting better since I do get at least sporadic contracts, rather than none at all

Re: DNS Help

2010-07-25 Thread Erika L. Rich
If this is for a Google Apps premier account, then one of the perks is support - have you tried them yet? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Was installing postini and got all mx records in there and it was working > then I noticed somehow I must have overwritten an SPF rec

Re: idiots at CNN calling for media to be "gatekeepers" for blogosphere

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The supporters of Bill 602P are pushing for, 5¢ per blog post tax through the senate. the bill also mentions their will be a 1¢ per comment tax on every blog post, and the fees will be collected by your ISP." That would kill the internet for casual users. Big corporations might create whole di

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
It's run by Fox...and the topics would be seeded by Fox. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Isn't foxnation a blog or something? On Sat, Jul 24, 20

RE: Health care: There Law of Unintended Consequences . . .maybe

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
I think it only proves why for profit health care is bad and needs to be eliminated. Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Health care: There Law of Unintended Consequences . . .maybe Later

Re: QOTD

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
The man was genius as his writings prove. But you can ignore them and pretend he was a dolt if you like:P On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I really wonder how much of a brain was behind that delivery. When he > came up with such zingers as ducks causing acid rain, or

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Well, for starters, he is black - at least that what the media has been ramming down our throats since they fell in love with him quite a few years back." Same thing with Tiger Woods. J - A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air. - Winston Churchill ~

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 7:37 AM, trish simon wrote: > > I thought his mother was Caucasian and his father African? Personally, I > think he is a human being...I also thought the other guy would be better at > the job...but, since he is the President, he deserves some respect. More precisely, the

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM, trish simon wrote: > > I thought his mother was Caucasian and his father African? Personally, I > think he is a human being...I also thought the other guy would be better at > the job...but, since he is the President, he deserves some respect.  He > deserves to b

England plans to decentralize health care

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
This is a very interesting article on a major push by the new Conservative government in the UK to fundamentally change how health care is organized. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/world/europe/25britain.html I think that some of the changes they describe might be useful, but the thing that s

Re: deficits as far as the eye can see

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
The answer is, yes, I do want to bless my daughter with a country that has programs to take care of the least fortunate, that helps ensure a social safety net for retirement, that provides health care for the rich and poor. Health care is the tough one. That is going to require a whole lot of wor

Re: Gods. The US policy is now set by the Right Wing Media.

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Stroz
I feel the same way. It seems the media is fine referring to his race when they deem it appropriate but condemn anyone else who uses his race in a way they do not agree with. I'll be honest, I did not vote for him, but I do not think he is doing a bad job. I did not think, overall Bush did a bad

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Isn't foxnation a blog or something? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > BTW...Foxnation.com posted the video at 1:49 pm...so to say Fox didn't even > mention it until 8pm is an outright lie. > > http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-opinion-section/71-71/2500-timeline- >

Health care: There Law of Unintended Consequences . . .maybe

2010-07-25 Thread Jerry Barnes
Later on this year, the health care reform legislation will require insurers to take on children with pre-existing conditions. An unnamed insurance spokesman said "means you could technically buy it on the way to the hospital." Also, the new legislation does not allow insurers to cap payouts. I

deficits as far as the eye can see

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
The salient question for us (and more importantly, for our children and grandchildren) is why the country should move from paying 18% of GDP in taxes to 26%+ in taxes to pay for the retiree welfare state. I don't want to saddle my children with that burden, do you? http://online.wsj.com/article/

Re: drop "diversity" programs and help those in need - Dem Sen Jim Webb

2010-07-25 Thread Bruce Sorge
I agree. I have seen careers in the military ruined because of affirmative action. Let's move away from race. I believe overall we have evolved beyond this. Bruce sent from my HTC EVO On Jul 25, 2010 1:40 PM, "Robert Munn" wrote: Interesting read. He echoes William Rehnquist's argument that

drop "diversity" programs and help those in need - Dem Sen Jim Webb

2010-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
Interesting read. He echoes William Rehnquist's argument that discrimination against African-Americans is unique in American society and should be dealt with separately from other issues of diversity. In general I agree. It's time we moved beyond race and base help on socio-economic status. No dou