RE: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Bachman wouldn't know integrity if it bitchslapped her... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this... >From the title, I thought this wa

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Maureen
Yeah..let's get rid of them too. And anyone in a position of power, or running a campaign that lies. I am so sick of the lies being spouted by both sides in California Governor and Senate races that I could barf. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > From the title, I though

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Judah McAuley
There *are* laws against politicians like that, hence why they've been charged with violating laws. I wish they were more vigorously pursued though and earlier on. It seems to take years, if not longer, between when a pretty full fledged scandal hits and when things actually wind their way through

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"some of us work for a living you know at real jobs, not as shills for corporations and the GOP." Are you implying that corporations and the GOP are locked at the hip? I won't disagree. I'll say that the GOP is firmly locked on the "right" hip. However, the Democratic party is firmly locked on

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
>From the title, I thought this was going to be about one of these integrity challenged congressmen: Charles Rangel Maxine Waters Eddie Bernice Johnson Sanford Bishop Christopher Dodd J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artific

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
" The Winter of Our Discount Tent." Nice. I love a good bargain. That's why I have a 3 foot tall stack of books to read and about 20 video games in my play next pile. The first section I hit in any store is the Clearance isle. Close to finishing up Red Dead Redemption now. I don't buy games

Re: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread denstar
I had been tossing the idea around, but now I'm sold. Cruises /rock!/ :Den -- There is pleasure when a sore is scratched, But to be without sores is more pleasurable still. Just so, there are pleasures in worldly desires, But to be without desires is more pleasurable still. Nagarjuna On Tue,

Re: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Ras Tafari
it was the cheesiest shit at every turn. plain cheese. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Medic wrote: > > I've never been on one, but I doubt I'd like it. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.co

Re: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Medic
I've never been on one, but I doubt I'd like it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.

Re: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Ras Tafari
had my worst vacation on a cruise. the boat was nice, everything was nice, i just dont like being confined like that On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jacob wrote: > > Best vacations ever and cheap if you do it right! > > Of the five cruises I have been on, I had only one bad night. This was the

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Nope working at a conference on Global Navigation Satellite Systems http://www.ion.org/meetings/gnss2010program.cfm On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Sam wrote: > > Hah > > Please tell me you're going as a Canadian scientist. > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> wor

RE: There should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this... 1) Pelosi, Bachmann said, "has been busy sticking the taxpayer with her $100,000 bar tab for alcohol on

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Medic
Sir Sandford Peameal. Inventor of Back Bacon. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Sam wrote: > > Hah > > Please tell me you're going as a Canadian scientist. > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: > > > > working at a scientific conference. > > > > some of us work for a li

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Sam
Hah Please tell me you're going as a Canadian scientist. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > working at a scientific conference. > > some of us work for a living you know at real jobs, not as shills for > corporations and the GOP. > ~

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
working at a scientific conference. some of us work for a living you know at real jobs, not as shills for corporations and the GOP. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Sam wrote: > > Aren't you supposed to be on vacation? > > You're vaca's must suck if you're thinking about me :P > > > On Tue, Sep

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
TMI On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Medic wrote: > > You haven't brought enjoyment to MY day since you removed your glamour shots > profile pic from Gmail. > > /me walks away sulking > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Judah McAuley

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Sam
Aren't you supposed to be on vacation? You're vaca's must suck if you're thinking about me :P On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > $5.00 says that Sam will say that politifact is 1) lying and 2) is biased. > ~~~

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Sam
1) Pelosi, Bachmann said, "has been busy sticking the taxpayer with her $100,000 bar tab for alcohol on the military jets that she's flying." They call this Pant's on Fire because "Their Friends at FactCheck.org" decided Judicial Watch exaggerated. They don't say why or how they know this. Two bi

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Medic
You haven't brought enjoyment to MY day since you removed your glamour shots profile pic from Gmail. /me walks away sulking On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Judah McAuley > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Robert Munn > w

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Medic
Seriously Lar, who's gonna take you up on that bet? On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > $5.00 says that Sam will say that politifact is 1) lying and 2) is biased. > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: > > > > > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter

Re: add a static DNS host entry on OSX

2010-09-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
yeah, do what Larry said about editing the /etc/hosts file, or do like I did and create a caching dns server inside your network and then you can add in your own dns entries. Easy peasy. On Sep 21, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > How do you add a static DNS entry on a Mac? I want

Re: add a static DNS host entry on OSX

2010-09-21 Thread Robert Munn
thanks On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > have you tried editing the hosts file? > http://www.hadak.org/2008/05/31/enabling-the-hosts-file-in-os-x-104-and-below/ > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Robert Munn wrote: >> >> How do you add a static DNS entry on a Mac? I

Re: add a static DNS host entry on OSX

2010-09-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
have you tried editing the hosts file? http://www.hadak.org/2008/05/31/enabling-the-hosts-file-in-os-x-104-and-below/ On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > How do you add a static DNS entry on a Mac? I want to link some > internal stuff using names rather than IP addresses. >

Re: THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
$5.00 says that Sam will say that politifact is 1) lying and 2) is biased. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/sep/21/bachmann-and-tru > th-o-meter-collected-works/ > > > > If a politician continually lies, there should be

add a static DNS host entry on OSX

2010-09-21 Thread Robert Munn
How do you add a static DNS entry on a Mac? I want to link some internal stuff using names rather than IP addresses. Alternately, does the Tomato router software provide DNS override, e.g. static entries inside the firewall? ~|

THere should be laws against politicians like this...

2010-09-21 Thread Eric Roberts
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/sep/21/bachmann-and-tru th-o-meter-collected-works/ If a politician continually lies, there should be legal repercussions. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's totally another to be a lying POS. Eric ~~

RE: Corruption at the Vatican

2010-09-21 Thread Jacob
Guess they will need to expand their bingo operations... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:06 AM To: cf-community Subject: Corruption at the Vatican Vatican Bank faces money-laundering probe http://www.cnn.com/2010/WOR

RE: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Jacob
Best vacations ever and cheap if you do it right! Of the five cruises I have been on, I had only one bad night. This was the last night of the cruise and the captain warned us ahead of time. There was a tropical storm behind us and since the ship was now lighter because of less fuel, we would roc

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Robert Munn wrote: >> >> Consumer and business confidence, and the economy, will begin to >> improve once the Republicans take over the House of Representatives, >> leading into the Spring of Cautious Opti

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Consumer and business confidence, and the economy, will begin to > improve once the Republicans take over the House of Representatives, > leading into the Spring of Cautious Optimism. You literally made water squirt out my nose, Robert. Tha

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread G Money
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I think in this economy, you mean > > The Winter of Our Discount Tent. > bwahahahahaahahah! Nice! -- No matter how close to yours another's steps have grown In the end there is one dance you'll do alone ~

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think in this economy, you mean The Winter of Our Discount Tent. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, G Money wrote: > > > Summer's over. > > Now is the Fall of Our Realization.which precedes the Winter of Our > Discontent. > > ~~

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:57 PM, G Money wrote: > > Summer's over. > > Now is the Fall of Our Realization.which precedes the Winter of Our > Discontent. > Consumer and business confidence, and the economy, will begin to improve once the Republicans take over the House of Representatives, le

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread G Money
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Yay, no recession, just a really crappy economy! Celebrate!" > > It's the summer of recovery. Don't be a buzz kill. > Summer's over. Now is the Fall of Our Realization.which precedes the Winter of Our Discontent. -- No matter how

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"umm, no that was summer of 2009 We're a year past that ;-)" Damn. Tonight I Going to Party Like It's 2009. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provisions s

Re: Corruption at the Vatican

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. Next off, you'll say that there have been financial high jinks in the United Nations. Wouldn't that be a hoot. - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredie

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > It's the summer of recovery. Don't be a buzz kill. > > J > umm, no that was summer of 2009 We're a year past that ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:/

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Yay, no recession, just a really crappy economy! Celebrate!" It's the summer of recovery. Don't be a buzz kill. J No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provision

Re: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've always hated the thought of taking a cruise. I don't want to be > surrounded by that much water. But this video just seals my distaste for > cruises. > > SFW > > http://kottke.org/10/09/rough-seas

RE: OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Justin Scott
> But this video just seals my distaste for cruises. Personally I enjoy cruising (no laptop, no cell phone, very hard to reach me and I couldn't fix it from the boat anyway, so no point in trying, lol). It's a pretty rare cruise where the waters are THAT rough though. I've had some where you cou

OMG!

2010-09-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I've always hated the thought of taking a cruise. I don't want to be surrounded by that much water. But this video just seals my distaste for cruises. SFW http://kottke.org/10/09/rough-seas ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Ant

RE: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Best birthday wishes. Enjoy! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-communi

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Maureen
Happy birthday. Hope you have a great day. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM, denstar wrote: > > WOOHOO!  We made it another year ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Mic

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread denstar
WOOHOO! We made it another year! Thanks Zaph, everyone! Got a 12-pack of Newcastle, took the day off work, and the wee-one is headed out with Granny. Life just doesn't get much better than this! Big up to the big guy in the sky- Thanks for existence, esse (or chica, as the case may be)! :De

Corruption at the Vatican

2010-09-21 Thread Maureen
Vatican Bank faces money-laundering probe http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/21/vatican.bank.investigation/index.html?hpt=T2 And in other news, water is wet. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.c

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Robert Munn
happy day! On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Judah McAuley
Yay, no recession, just a really crappy economy! Celebrate! On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Recession Ended in June > 2009 > > > The National Bureau of Economic Research, the arbiter of the sta

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"6 out of 35+ clients wanted new designs this year, has been my best year ever." Good deal. Share the love by hiring a new designer or programmer. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ing

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Erika L. Rich
Happy Birfday!!! LOL! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/mes

Re: a fast vpn?

2010-09-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > That would be nice... Where's that 1Gb Google service when you need it? > > -Cameron > > http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi/public/list#NYhttp://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi/public/list#NY Saratoga County is listed, doubt t

Re: a fast vpn?

2010-09-21 Thread Cameron Childress
That would be nice... Where's that 1Gb Google service when you need it? -Cameron On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > we have a 100mbps dedicated line from here to our colocation facility.  That > keeps our vpn pretty snappy ~~~

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Sam
Three people in one? Happy Birthday to all of you. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adob

Re: a fast vpn?

2010-09-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
we have a 100mbps dedicated line from here to our colocation facility. That keeps our vpn pretty snappy. On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > No such thing really... It gets a little faster if both ends are > hardware. Crypted data packets are bigger, so just using VPN

Re: a fast vpn?

2010-09-21 Thread Ras Tafari
yeah, i figured, i just had to vent :( On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > No such thing really...  It gets a little faster if both ends are > hardware.  Crypted data packets are bigger, so just using VPN makes > your bandwidth use go up.  The crypting/decrypting on b

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
enjoy! larry On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowit

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Vivec
Happy Birfday!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cf

Re: a fast vpn?

2010-09-21 Thread Cameron Childress
No such thing really... It gets a little faster if both ends are hardware. Crypted data packets are bigger, so just using VPN makes your bandwidth use go up. The crypting/decrypting on both ends are going to take time too and if you're doing it on your machine (ie: Cisco VPN) your are going to

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Medic
Yay Denny! Happy Birthday. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > happy birthday to you, you old goat. > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: > > > > Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! > > > > > > ~~

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
That's no way to talk to your elders! thanks! On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > happy birthday to you, you old goat. > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> >> Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! >> >> > > ~~~

Re: Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Ras Tafari
happy birthday to you, you old goat. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-A

Happy B-Day Denstar!

2010-09-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Have a far-out and groovy kinda day! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf

a fast vpn?

2010-09-21 Thread Tony
is there such a thing? or is that an oxymoron too? just wondering. tw ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: ht

Re: Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Ras Tafari
6 out of 35+ clients wanted new designs this year, has been my best year ever. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Recession Ended in June > 2009 > > > The National Bureau of Economic Research, the

Re: PDF tool on a Mac?

2010-09-21 Thread Tony Weeg
oh I understood ya, just pure disbelief. Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On Sep 21, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > The LC PDF Creation tool is Windows only. > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: >> >> eh?! >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Scott Stroz

Re: PDF tool on a Mac?

2010-09-21 Thread Scott Stroz
The LC PDF Creation tool is Windows only. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > eh?! > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> Its Winders only. >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Tony Weeg wrote: >>> >>> hi peeps >>> >>> is there no Mac version of a

Good News: The Recession Is Over (And Has Been Over for a While)

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
Recession Ended in June 2009 The National Bureau of Economic Research, the arbiter of the start and end dates of a recession, determined that the recession that began in December 2007 ended in June 2009. The business-

Re: Liberals and Atheists Smarter than Conservatives and Believers

2010-09-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do". Nice quote. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provisions should be made to pr

Re: When's Adobe releasing this product?

2010-09-21 Thread Rick Root
heheh On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > > I want a copy :) > http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/10643/1201271267/Obi.jpg > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion