Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Gruss Gott wrote: > Would you analyze this by first attempting to approximate the radius > of the gyre based on the average wingspan of a falcon? > Sorry, man, it's Sunday I'm just messing around. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > Sure, why let reality get in the way of your narrative? Numbers are things some people use to try to make sense of a chaotic world. That, of course, can't be done (cue various Einstein quotes) A national budget, just like your home budget, is not an exercise in arithmeti

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> I am quite familiar with your cavalier attitude toward numbers > > Numbers are a crutch for the weak-minded. Sure, why let reality get in the way of your narrative? I'm sure that your world is much more orderly an

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Sam
Gov. Neil Abercrombie can't find the birth certificate he promised to produce. Weird huh? . On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: >> I love the conviction. Some left leaning sites tell you there's >> nothing to see here so you look obediently away. >> > > I resent

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > I love the conviction. Some left leaning sites tell you there's > nothing to see here so you look obediently away. > I resent that! I only obediently listen to Mitt Romney: "I think the citizenship test has been passed. I believe the president was born in the United States."

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > > I am quite familiar with your cavalier attitude toward numbers Numbers are a crutch for the weak-minded. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/

Re: Austerity: The UK Experience

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > decisions. How many people today could grow their own crops? > Totally agree with your core point, however I'm a big believer in local (your own backyard even). So I guess I'd say I hope more and more of us should be doing that. To your point, sadly, more and more of us ma

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Sam
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Having listened to and considered Mr. Trump's birther arguments I've > determined them to be crap based on a review of facts from factcheck, > politifact and others. I love the conviction. Some left leaning sites tell you there's nothing to

Re: Austerity: The UK Experience

2011-04-17 Thread Robert Munn
We need to think differently about how we live our lives. We pulled millions of people out of traditional rural life and moved them into cities on the notion that industrialization (and the specialization that comes with it) would provide a better future. Now it turns out we're going broke in that

RE: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Eric Roberts
That and she made him part of her campaign, with takes him off of the off limits list... -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 13:01 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > The dif

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Judah McAuley
I am quite familiar with your cavalier attitude toward numbers, delight in changing points midstream and general enthusiasm for hand-waving solutions, Gruss, but when you are talking about budgets, numbers actually do matter. In order to produce a roadmap, one must first agree on a destination an

Austerity: The UK Experience

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/business/global/15iht-pound15.html NYTimes: In the United States, the debate over how to cut the long-term budget deficit is just getting under way. But in Britain, one year into its own controversial austerity program to plug a gaping fiscal hole, the future is

Ha! CBO: Your Budget is 1/100th of your claim

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
A Congressional Budget Office analysis of the fiscal 2011 spending deal that Congress will vote on Thursday concludes that it would cut spending this year by less than one-one hundredth of what both Republicans or Democrats have claimed. A comparison prepared by the CBO shows that the omnibus spe

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > The discussion is great and I welcome it. But no matter how much you > want to call his plan "serious" it just isn't. Of course we're probably just haggling over terms and definitions, but here's an interesting paragraph from automaticearth: a credible fiscal plan. Optimi

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > The discussion is great and I welcome it. But no matter how much you > want to call his plan "serious" it just isn't. The point you - and Krugman - are missing is that the discussion *must* begin around priorities. To your point, we all agree the deficit must be dealt wit

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Still a dickish move to question the legitimacy of a child's parents. But maybe that's just me. I don't like being a jerk and hurting children. On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: >> >> The difference for me is that Obama is a grown man that has

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm torn. I mostly agree with Jerry but also acknowledge the fact that it is Palin herself who brought the whole thing into the public realm. She has been far from shy about inserting her family life into the public debate which does tend to change my opinion on what is fair game. Fortunately, in

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > The difference for me is that Obama is a grown man that has placed > himself in the public arena. > > Trig is a child, who has not made such a choice. > > To me, he is off limits. > Sarah Palin is a grown woman who has placed herself in the public arena - and made t

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Getting all huffy over the details at this point is a bit silly.  It's > like worrying about what restaurant you're to eat at in the airport > before you decide if you're going to Asia or Europe. It's more like saying "let's fly to Asia" wi

Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
The difference for me is that Obama is a grown man that has placed himself in the public arena. Trig is a child, who has not made such a choice. To me, he is off limits. Jerry On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Having listened to and considered Mr. Trump's birther argument

Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Having listened to and considered Mr. Trump's birther arguments I've determined them to be crap based on a review of facts from factcheck, politifact and others. Granted there are some things there to make you wonder - like why Obama doesn't release the long-form, but either way he's got the requ

Re: Google Exodus

2011-04-17 Thread PT
hahahah Street View. On 4/17/2011 11:13 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > The combined use of internet technologies should makes this of interest to > all. Oh, and it's funny. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxToZmJwdI&feature=player_embedded#at=17 ~

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > > I'd also like to point out, once again, that the numbers used in > Ryan's proposal are extraordinarily out of far right field. I get your point, I just think it's irrelevant. Basically what Ryan did was say, "we can fix our books by attacking entitlements. Here's the o

Serious cuts to everything, but a boost for the Military

2011-04-17 Thread Vivec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VFIMTDfTDg&feature=youtu.be Healthcare, Education and Infrastructure are to be cut. You guys think that there is hope for the US economy? No. Greed is going to run us all into the ground simply because all our economies are so interconnected. ~~~

Re: Google Exodus

2011-04-17 Thread Vivec
Saw this before, it was very well done and amusing yes! :-) On 17 April 2011 11:13, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > The combined use of internet technologies should makes this of interest to > all. Oh, and it's funny. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxToZmJwdI&feature=player_embedded#at=17

Google Exodus

2011-04-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The combined use of internet technologies should makes this of interest to all. Oh, and it's funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxToZmJwdI&feature=player_embedded#at=17 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://ww

Re: Baby Boomer moms

2011-04-17 Thread Sam
Your story is all over the map. . On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > That has not been my experience.  I have two sons: 34 and 39.  Both > educated, both employed.  Not a month goes by without one of them > hitting me up for money or help.  In fact, that is often the only tim

Re: Krugman Totally Misses the Point

2011-04-17 Thread Sam
And now the idiots are trying to repeal the imaginary death panels. http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/15/major-democrat-signs-on-plans-to-repeal-real-death-panel/ Who cares. Obama's plan has mouse overs. . On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Once again, the President respo