RE: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Roberts
It makes it irrelevant to the situation though... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So what really happens That does not make what Pelosi is doing 'right'. It just may be a little less 'wr

RE: Just saw this on Facebook

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 3:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Just saw this on Facebook President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the United States . -- Scott Stroz

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RE: Debt ceiling

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Exactly...their goal should be to do the job the American people hired them to do. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:47 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Debt ceiling HEre' s what the GOP say their aim is. " Both sides say their

Re: Debt ceiling

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
All 53 Senate Democrats Sign Letter to Boehner Threatening to Default on US Debt Dear Speaker Boehner, With five days until our nation faces an unprecedented financial crisis, we need to work together to ensure that our nation does not default on our obligations for the first time in our history

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"No matter how accurate, this is essentially the same "your guy was bad too" argument we just saw from Jerry on Cantor, and misses a more important point made elsewhere:" The only reason Jerry makes these points is so that the blatant hypocrisy can be exposed. Both parties are full of shit yet f

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
That is interesting. It is a curious decision to count a tax cut as an expenditure, but if it helps make Obama look good, I can see why Mr. Klein would choose to do it. So, playing by those rules, we'll let Mr. Klein count the Bush tax cut as a 1.8 trillion dollar expenditure. However, he doesn

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism Excerpt: NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science j

Re: Debt ceiling

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Go Go Tea Party!" No hurrah's for the Senate's unwillingness to compromise. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quint

Re: Just saw this on Facebook

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
Nice. A little levity for the day. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton ~

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Still if she gets her way, will it cause significant harm to the economy? " Really? That's the best you can come up with? Anyway, to answer your question, yes it could cause significant harm to the economy. Overspending on crap like this could lead to the government overspending and going in

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Scott Stroz
That does not make what Pelosi is doing 'right'. It just may be a little less 'wrong'...maybe. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Still if she gets her way, will it cause significant harm to the economy? If > Cantor gets his way, aside from the windfall he would get, would

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Larry Lyons
Still if she gets her way, will it cause significant harm to the economy? If Cantor gets his way, aside from the windfall he would get, would that harm the economy? >"Minority Leader Pelosi is not betting on the government defaulting. Cantor >is. Cantor is betting against the full faith and cre

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Dana
it's a problem alright On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Vivec wrote: > > You know when you think about that we are still all being made to pay, > worldwide, for the greed of bankers; and the unwillingness of > politicians to regulate markets and risk losing some financial > support. > > On 28 J

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Dana
and it was watered down all to hell. Paul Krugman opposed at the time on the grounds that it was not enough to be effective but would be used as proof that the concept was flawed. And it seems he was right. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I still think it is ridiculous that th

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Vivec
You know when you think about that we are still all being made to pay, worldwide, for the greed of bankers; and the unwillingness of politicians to regulate markets and risk losing some financial support. On 28 July 2011 19:31, Vivec wrote: > > That 711m in stimulus, and stimulus tax cuts wasn't

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Vivec
I still think it is ridiculous that the rank and file are fighting for the wealthy to not pay taxes, while they are out of work and floundering in a depressed economy. You have to give some credit to those that use the Media to shape public opinion. Just looking at it in black and white shows ho

Re: Debt ceiling

2011-07-28 Thread Vivec
"But as he twice approached a $4 trillion deficit-reduction deal with President Barack Obama that would have rocked both parties' bases, Boehner was reeled back in by his caucus' conservative wing. The muscular, Tea Party-fueled group not only forced him to abandon a "grand bargain" with Obama, it

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Dana
He's probably just frustrated. I posted that chart elsewhere and feel about the same way. People just refuse to believe it. Apparently we were mean to George Bush, and now we are mean to Cantor. Yeah, I am whining, I know, but when facts become irrelevant then what's the point of public discourse

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Dana
well there is still re-election to consider, remember. Norquist has said he will fund primary challengers to anyone who votes for anything that could be construed as raising taxes. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Larry Lyons > wrote: > > >

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Dana
I agree. What Cantor is doing is wrong. If Pelosi did that, it was wrong. I say we address the wrongness that is happening right now. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:48 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > > > "You could do what one of the republican leade

Re: Just saw this on Facebook

2011-07-28 Thread Vivec
Ba Dum CHING!! :-) LOL On 28 July 2011 16:03, Scott Stroz wrote: > > President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are > accusing him of being born in the United States . ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Those in the Tea Party Caucus, like Bachmann have said they will nto vote to increase the debt ceiling. Its hard to counter the 60 votes they carry." So what. Obama said he wouldn't increase the debt. They are full of shit. Alan West is a tea party darling and has said he will compromise. And

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"wait, I thought that was a Republican idea. Wait, it was. So they could call him a megalomaniac ;)" I'd call him an idiot. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Also, I have not heard any members of the Black Caucus sing any pledges that they won;t vote for legislation every one and their brother knows is vital to the country. So, there is that." A lot of the Black Caucus is too busy calling the Republicans racist to state anything else. That's really

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Minority Leader Pelosi is not betting on the government defaulting. Cantor is. Cantor is betting against the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution." No, she was betting on controlling the legislation that would direct money to her investments. Both are sleazy. I can see that. Most

Just saw this on Facebook

2011-07-28 Thread Scott Stroz
President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the United States . -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Wow.  The media gurus on the left must love you.  You bought their lines > hook, line, and sinker. "Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threa

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Looks like CBS Sports runs a college fantasy league at least: http://collegefb.cbssports.com/splash/collegefb/spln/single On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, GMoney wrote: > > They have college FFB? > > I remember watching some of those USC teams in the mid 2000's thinking "Man > I wish i had Bush

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread Judah McAuley
I don't know, actually. They have college football video games, so I assume that the stats are available enough to run a decent fantasy league. I just don't follow the NFL whereas I do follow college football, so I was curious. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, GMoney wrote: > > They have colleg

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread Ray Champagne
Yes, sorry, NFL. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > NFL and not College I presume? > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Ray Champagne > wrote: > > > > Anyone interested in doing a Fantasy Football league for CF-Comm? We've > > talked about it in the past. > > > > If w

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread GMoney
They have college FFB? I remember watching some of those USC teams in the mid 2000's thinking "Man I wish i had Bush or Leinart on a fantasy team". On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > NFL and not College I presume? > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Ray Champagne > wr

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread Judah McAuley
NFL and not College I presume? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Anyone interested in doing a Fantasy Football league for CF-Comm?  We've > talked about it in the past. > > If we can get 10-12 teams together, I don't mind running it.  Price is open > for discussion. > >

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread Ras Tafari
ill join the fun On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:24 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I can't say i'd be in for sure, but definitely interested. > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > >> >> Anyone interested in doing a Fantasy Football league for CF-Comm?  We've >> talked about it in the pas

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Minority Leader Pelosi is not betting on the government defaulting. Cantor > is. Cantor is betting against the full faith and credit clause of the > Constitution. > > Funny though, it appears that Cantor has suddenly divested himself of mo

Re: FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread GMoney
I can't say i'd be in for sure, but definitely interested. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Anyone interested in doing a Fantasy Football league for CF-Comm? We've > talked about it in the past. > > If we can get 10-12 teams together, I don't mind running it. Price is

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Larry Lyons
Minority Leader Pelosi is not betting on the government defaulting. Cantor is. Cantor is betting against the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution. Funny though, it appears that Cantor has suddenly divested himself of most of this investment, but only after the news got out. >"You

FFB league

2011-07-28 Thread Ray Champagne
Anyone interested in doing a Fantasy Football league for CF-Comm? We've talked about it in the past. If we can get 10-12 teams together, I don't mind running it. Price is open for discussion. -- Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com ~~

Re: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread GMoney
I thought we'd outgrown this dipshittery? Seriously, these are the dumbest posts on this list...i can't believe people still think this "argument" is witty or intelligent. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > What did I tell you about confu

RE: Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Roberts
What did I tell you about confusing the moronic sheeple with facts Larry. If it doesn't come from Herr Limbaugh or Herr Beck...it's not the truth. I think they would argue with Jesus if Limbaugh or Beck said that it was false. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmai

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Scott Stroz
Based purely on numbers, it controls less than the Tea Party. Also, I have not heard any members of the Black Caucus sing any pledges that they won;t vote for legislation every one and their brother knows is vital to the country. So, there is that. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Jerry Barnes

RE: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Roberts
At least she isn't invested in the failure of the US. Cantor should be tried for treason. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: So what really happens "You could do what one of the republi

RE: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Ummm...when the health care reform bill was passed...the vocal majority was a vocal minority. And no...he couldn't pass the bill the rest of the country wanted because of that vocal minority and their lies and other very deceptive practices. The party of no is the Democrats? What drugs are you

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "You could do what one of the republican leaders, Eric Cantor, is doing. > Apparently he's heavily invested in companies that short sell government > bonds. So if there is a default he makes a killing. Can you say Conflict > of > Interest

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > You seemed to be blaming to blame the tea party for the delay in the > resolution yet admit that they are a vocal minority.  This is a democratic > dream argument.  There are other funded special interests that don't get any > air play.  Th

Government Redistribution of Taxes to "Better" Neighborhoods

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
Detroit to set services by neighborhood condition Excerpt: DETROIT - Detroit neighborhoods with more people and a better chance of survival will receive different levels of city services than more blighted areas under a plan unveiled Wednesday that some residents fear may pit them against each o

Re: Debt ceiling

2011-07-28 Thread Vivec
HEre' s what the GOP say their aim is. " Both sides say their aim is to polish the GOP's deficit-slashing brand and pave a road to victory for the party in the 2012 elections." That's the "regular" GOP and the Tea Party GOP. In my view, that really shouldn't be the goal. When you read a bit ab

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You could do what one of the republican leaders, Eric Cantor, is doing. Apparently he's heavily invested in companies that short sell government bonds. So if there is a default he makes a killing. Can you say Conflict of Interest kiddies." Kind of like Nancy Pelosi investing in Clean Energy Fue

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"That is 16% of the overall House of Representatives and 25% of the Republicans in the House. With those numbers, they control a lot." What about the "Black Caucus". It has about 40 members. Does it control a lot? Which way do you think it pushes in the debate? J - Ninety percent of polit

Re: So what really happens

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Thanx for the civics lesson Jerry, but I already know about the Tea Baggers and their stature in Congress. Yes, the Democrats have the Senate and Presidency, but those two alone will not get bills passed. We still need the voice of the House. And the Tea Baggers seem to have a very vocal minority

Re: Nasa debuts awesome looking iPad app

2011-07-28 Thread Larry Lyons
thx downloading the app as I write. >This looks totally cool. I need to get an iPad. Had one on loan for >awhile and it was pretty sweet. > >http://www.good.is/post/nasa-creates-awesome-ipad-app-for-science-education > >I can forsee spending a lot of time on this with my kiddo. > >Judah ~~~

Interesting_chart_on_Obama's_an d_Bush's_effects_on_the_deficit

2011-07-28 Thread Larry Lyons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/obamas-and-bushs-effect-on-the-deficit-in-one-graph/2011/07/25/gIQAELOrYI_blog.html?fb_ref=NetworkNews ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe

Re: Obama 41, Ron Paul 37

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Leave that "Race" Blank Jerry?" Nice. Should have seen that one coming. Just to add, I would also vote for Herman Cain. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,

Re: Speaking of Mozilla products - Thunderbird

2011-07-28 Thread george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov
Try posting your request here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=39 George >I upgraded to the latest version of Thunderbird (5.0). > >After it has been running a while, the CPU usage for it goes to 40%-45% >and the consumed RAM jumps to ~1.4-1.7 gigs, and the whole app becomes >un