Re: Who Didn't Watch the Superbowl?

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
Too bad you missed it. It was a great game. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Me.  It's on early here on the west coast compared to what I'm used to and I > was doing some work and the next thing I know someone was telling me the > score and I really didn't care. > > I'm

Who Didn't Watch the Superbowl?

2012-02-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Me. It's on early here on the west coast compared to what I'm used to and I was doing some work and the next thing I know someone was telling me the score and I really didn't care. I'm actually getting back into pro football after a hiatus but ... I dunno. Just eh. ~~~

from the fascinating if true department

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
Both Gingrich and Romney guilty of voter fraud? http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9099 stay tuned ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archi

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
This Congress. Existing problems. What does the Bill of Rights have to do with that. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Sam wrote: > > Let's start with the Bill of Rights and then work our way through the > centuries. > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> Even sadder is that

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Let's start with the Bill of Rights and then work our way through the centuries. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Even sadder is that you will never realize why that statement makes > sense, because you seem to be unable to recognize the difference > between facts and opini

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
Even sadder is that you will never realize why that statement makes sense, because you seem to be unable to recognize the difference between facts and opinion. However, if you are convinced that the fact as stated is wrong offer your proof. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Sam wrote: > > Sad thi

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Sad thing is you believe that statement makes sense. Even sadder is other fools will high five you. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > No. I am saying that the statement "Congress has solved none of the > existing problems" is a fact.  It has nothing to do with me being > righ

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
Remind me when I see you to tell you the story of the cat and the dildo. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Dana wrote: > > but usually cats figure it out after a day or two ;) > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Yeah, but it's funny as hell to watch him run in circles chasi

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Dana wrote: > but usually cats figure it out after a day or two ;) > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Yeah, but it's funny as hell to watch him run in circles chasing his tail. >> >> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Dana wrote: >> > >> >

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
but usually cats figure it out after a day or two ;) On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Yeah, but it's funny as hell to watch him run in circles chasing his tail. > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > quickly tiresome and ultimately pointless? > > > > On Sun,

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
Yeah, but it's funny as hell to watch him run in circles chasing his tail. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Dana wrote: > > quickly tiresome and ultimately pointless? > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Yeah, it's the same kind of fun as teasing the cat with the laser poin

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
quickly tiresome and ultimately pointless? On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Yeah, it's the same kind of fun as teasing the cat with the laser pointer. > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: > > > > please don't confuse Sam with facts. He starts to pout an

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
Yeah, it's the same kind of fun as teasing the cat with the laser pointer. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > please don't confuse Sam with facts. He starts to pout and gets upset. ~| Order the Adobe Cold

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
please don't confuse Sam with facts. He starts to pout and gets upset. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > No. I am saying that the statement "Congress has solved none of the > existing problems" is a fact.  It has nothing to do with me being > right or wrong.  Facts are facts. >

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and you certainly are opinionated. I wonder if there is a connection. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Sam wrote: > > You know what they say about opinions? > ... > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> No, what Congress is doing is wasting time and taxpayer money making >> po

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
No. I am saying that the statement "Congress has solved none of the existing problems" is a fact. It has nothing to do with me being right or wrong. Facts are facts. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > Your response is congress does nothing good so you are always right? > Do you kno

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
the point is, Sam, that it was one part of a primary care visit. You're belittling a group that provides primary care where it's needed, and you're saying the *left* is looking for a boogeyman? Go be outraged about people who aren't saving lives, Sam. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Sam wrote:

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
And the class clown says something stupid as expected. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 8:01 PM, PT wrote: > > No. No.  You need to answer in Sam-think. > > Ahem. > > So, are you saying this is a real problem? ~| Order the Adobe Col

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Your response is congress does nothing good so you are always right? Do you know Eric? . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > > When Congress actually produces a solution to any of the existing > problems facing the nation, you can label this opinion.  Based on > their current recor

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Yeah, we've been over this. There other services have little to do with breast cancer funding. The mammogram they sent you for at a reduced price was paid for by the State. It's good to know they told you where to get it done but they don't get finders credit. The breast checks are good to have b

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread PT
No. No. You need to answer in Sam-think. Ahem. So, are you saying this is a real problem? On 2/5/2012 7:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > > When Congress actually produces a solution to any of the existing > problems facing the nation, you can label this opinion. Based on > their current record, it's a

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
When Congress actually produces a solution to any of the existing problems facing the nation, you can label this opinion. Based on their current record, it's a stone fact. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Sam wrote: > > You know what they say about opinions? > ... > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
ok well, yanno... I'm speaking as someone who has been a Planned Parenthood patient, and you aren't interested, which probably tells us everything we need to know. But I'll explain this one more time. I show up and say yanno, just got here, haven't made contact with the coumadin clinic, but I hav

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
no. Why should it be? On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > Is that a breast cancer treatment? > > . > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > it's not even just GYN care! They were keeping me in coumadin when I > first > > moved to California, which probably only saved

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
You know what they say about opinions? ... On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > > No, what Congress is doing is wasting time and taxpayer money making > political hay on this red herring nonsense instead of finding > solutions for the real problems. > ~~

RE: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts
The shoes and gloves fit in this case... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood if the shoe fits... On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM,

RE: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts
...and don't forget the millions spent of suing other cancer orgs for using "For the cure"... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood Sam

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
No, what Congress is doing is wasting time and taxpayer money making political hay on this red herring nonsense instead of finding solutions for the real problems. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > That what congress is doing. > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread PT
I am responding to your comment in a non meaningful way? On 2/5/2012 6:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > That what congress is doing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/14302721

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
That what congress is doing. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Maureen wrote: > > There is no evidence that any of the Komen funds were used for > anything other than breast exams and screenings.  There is also no > evidence, in spite of the political nonsense being spread by the > opposition,

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
There is no evidence that any of the Komen funds were used for anything other than breast exams and screenings. There is also no evidence, in spite of the political nonsense being spread by the opposition, that any taxpayer funds were used for abortions. If you have proof, you should produce it.

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Stating the obvious confuses you? It's the odds lar. It's known what they do, it's just catching them at it. This is a distraction to take focus away. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > so how does that demonstrate they they used fed funds for that. I > though the whole

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
You just spin around until you get dizzy hoping nobody notices your lost? . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > false equivalence argument. Like a 10 year old who says well the > others are doing it. > > Sigh, just because other do such, does it make it right? Moreover in

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
I swear you guys are twins . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > if the shoe fits... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=hous

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Is that a breast cancer treatment? . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Dana wrote: > > it's not even just GYN care! They were keeping me in coumadin when I first > moved to California, which probably only saved my life. The thing that > really makes me angry about this latest post is that we've

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
The primary age group is teen to low thirties. Yes they might have a few over thirty. PP does not perform mammograms. And of you did tell me things before they were wrong then too. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dana wrote: > > No. Not at all. This money was mammograms. You are wrong both a

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so how does that demonstrate they they used fed funds for that. I though the whole idea of j'accuse went out with the execution of Robespierre. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Sam wrote: > > 300,000 abortions a year and you don't think any Federal money wen > towards even one? > > . > > On Sun,

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
false equivalence argument. Like a 10 year old who says well the others are doing it. Sigh, just because other do such, does it make it right? Moreover in terms of what is spent on salaries etc., the Komen foundation has been criticized multiple times over their inflated payroll. On Sun, Feb 5,

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
You're turning an investment in curing breast cancer into a contraception argument. The Komen funds aren't intended to go to condoms or abortions. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Less than 4% of the services provided by Planned Parenthood involve > abortion.  The other se

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
if the shoe fits... On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Sam wrote: > > You shouldn't enter every discussion calling people facist or nazis > and expect to participate. > > . > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: >> >> The clinic I used to ALSO provided ob/gyn care to many pregna

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
300,000 abortions a year and you don't think any Federal money wen towards even one? . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > and your hypocrisy make me laugh. > > That so called investigation has been shown to be entirely a political > show by an anti-abortion fanatic.

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Don't all charities have overhead and doesn't PP pay it's executives huge salaries? What was your point again? . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Sam do you understand what women's health is? Or what the mission of > the Koman foundation is? Its not just funding for can

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
You shouldn't enter every discussion calling people facist or nazis and expect to participate. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The clinic I used to ALSO provided ob/gyn care to many pregnant women > throughout their pregnancy. They do support life if that's the choice.

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
You're using emotion rather than logic to attack. The issue is breast cancer, but you made my point. Many younger women that aren't likely to get breast cancer use PP. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > OMFG. Really? You turned it into abortions and you're coming down

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
Do you not now the difference between breast cancer and a pap smear? . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > It is this sort of ignorance why I hold you in contempt. Have you any > idea about what Planned Parenthood does? Aside from the reich wing > mantra of abortion that

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
who said they were doing research? They do basic doctor stuff, yanno, like checkups? Duh. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Sam wrote: > > I love the fake outrage. > > My view of PP is they are not doing breast cancer research and they > are under investigation. Shouldn't charitable contributions

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
they are cheap if you need them to be, Sam. They'll ask for a certain amount for an office visit -- which is rather low, around $45 as I recall -- but if you can't pay it they will take what you can. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Sam wrote: > > One, we're discussing breast cancer. > Two, the

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
it's not even just GYN care! They were keeping me in coumadin when I first moved to California, which probably only saved my life. The thing that really makes me angry about this latest post is that we've already had this conversation and it's like I was talking to a wall when I told you before.

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Dana
No. Not at all. This money was mammograms. You are wrong both about the age group they serve and about the services they offer. They do primary care in a lot of places; I told you that before. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Sam wrote: > > They don't need that small change. When a girl goes in

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Maureen
Less than 4% of the services provided by Planned Parenthood involve abortion. The other services they do provide likely prevent more abortions than all the rhetoric from the opposition. What is not being said is that most of the opposition, especially that funded by the Catholic church, is not j

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and your hypocrisy make me laugh. That so called investigation has been shown to be entirely a political show by an anti-abortion fanatic. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Sam wrote: > > I love the fake outrage. > > My view of PP is they are not doing breast cancer research and they > are under

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam do you understand what women's health is? Or what the mission of the Koman foundation is? Its not just funding for cancer research. All in all about 17% of the money raised by the Komen foundation goes to cancer research, while another 13% goes for preventative services which includes breast e

RE: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Under investigation by 1 Christo-fascist wackjob rep from Florida...somehow I don’t think that fits any sane or intelligent person's definition of Under Investigation. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:49 AM To: cf-community Su

RE: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts
The tax dollars subsidize them so they don't cost as much dumbass. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:42 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood One, we're discussing breast cancer. T

RE: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Pap smears and breast exams are among the MANY services PP provides besides abortion care. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood And they hav

RE: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Roberts
The clinic I used to ALSO provided ob/gyn care to many pregnant women throughout their pregnancy. They do support life if that's the choice. Hence the name PLANNED Parenthood This as opposed to the Christo-fascist's FORCED parenthood -Original Message- From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:elr.

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Erika L. Rich
OMFG. Really? You turned it into abortions and you're coming down on me? Whatever dude. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Sam wrote: > > And they have $billions for that, mostly tax dollars. > > We're discussing breast cancer prevention and you're talking pap smears. > Stay focused and stop bei

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
I love the fake outrage. My view of PP is they are not doing breast cancer research and they are under investigation. Shouldn't charitable contributions go to business that aren't under legal investigation for the fraudulent use of funds? I would expect at least that from my contributions. To ma

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
One, we're discussing breast cancer. Two, they are not cheap. They take tax dollars and charge for service. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > It is this sort of ignorance why I hold you in contempt. Have you any > idea about what Planned Parenthood does? Aside from th

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
And they have $billions for that, mostly tax dollars. We're discussing breast cancer prevention and you're talking pap smears. Stay focused and stop being led by the fake outrage. . On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Sam, I tend to largely ignore most of the stuff you ta

Re: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Gruss Gott
Why are you shifting focus? If SGK doesn't like PP's mission then they should simply own it and publish their view. You just published yours. (sadly). Komen's actions are cowardly and that should disturb you as much as your view of PP disturbs me. On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Sam wrote:

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It is this sort of ignorance why I hold you in contempt. Have you any idea about what Planned Parenthood does? Aside from the reich wing mantra of abortion that is. Frequently it is the only provider for women's health in many areas, and for women who are poor. Frankly Sam you really need to try

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Erika L. Rich
Sam, I tend to largely ignore most of the stuff you talk about because I'm not interested in politics like you are ... but I find these comments to be so abhorrent and ignorant it warranted a response. Since you aren't a woman though, I guess I need to take your view point with a grain of salt as

Re: FW: Susan G. Komen backs down on Planned Parenthood

2012-02-05 Thread Sam
They don't need that small change. When a girl goes in for an Abortion, I mean to plan parenthood, they get a quick breast exam among a few other routine exams. That doesn't cost them extra but qualifies them for other monies since it appears their purpose is no longer solely abortion. Seams to wo