Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
I just spent $66 to fill up on about 14 gallons. Bummer. On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > General Motors Co. said Thursday it has begun shipping low-emission > Chevrolet Volt models to California that qualify for a $1,500 state rebate > and allow drivers to travel in the

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
Well ... Really this is what makes America great. Granted you might not like his opinions, but he's pretty honest and pretty consistent about them. And America says, hey, That's ok. You can run for president and people might overlook your hatred of women ... Er ... Views. The truth is, I fin

RE: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes it would be...i was just saying it wasn't a new concept -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:37 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life. I think he's saying that making everyon

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Dana
yeah really, so what? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Ok...so he took math...not geography... > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:08 AM > To: cf-community > Subje

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Dana
I think he's saying that making everyone pay at least $2000 tuition amounts to a large tuition increase for instate students. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Most states already favor locals...it's not a new concept. > > -Original M

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Looks like Romney pulled out Michigan by a couple percentage points. Given that he is from the state and outspent Santorum 2 to 1, it certainly doesn't look good but at least he won. I guess. Judah On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > This lunatic is currently leading in earl

Re: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well of course they are Virginia Republicans. On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Eric Roberts wrote: > > And very weasley... > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:44 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: FW: Hank the

RE: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
And very weasley... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:44 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate. I ought to run one of our ferrets against the cat. He'd be an ideal candidate for the Virginia

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I think that's what I was saying. On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Most states already favor locals...it's not a new concept. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com ] > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:03 AM > To: cf-community

RE: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Intent is everything -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:20 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar I never said handguns == cars. In 2008 fi

RE: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Ok...so he took math...not geography... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:08 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates Wow, why so obnoxious all the time? I did take

RE: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
I think that is more of an attitude of the rich rather than a result of free college. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:42 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life. On Tu

RE: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Most states already favor locals...it's not a new concept. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:03 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life. They are not. Typically there ar

RE: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
I'd like to see those numbers G...I know far more people who didn't go past high school who are republican than are democrat. -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:01 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Republican Party to poor stude

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Trudeau knew what he was doing. About a year later he married a hottie over 20 years younger than himself. I have a lot of respect for Trudeau. His son looks like he's following in his father's footsteps. Or at least giving the finger to the media like dear old dad. On Tuesday, February 28, 2012

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
well heck, lets give him the opportunity. Anyone up to delivering a gallon of gasoline to him? On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Judah McAuley wrote: > > ...and I, for one, think we ought to give him the opportunity. I'm > sure there will be 72 virgins awaiting him in Heaven upon his > Martyrdom. >

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
A small part of me hopes he gets the nomination. It will make deciding who to vote for that much easier. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > OK. I don't chime in on any of this crap because yeah, it's politics... but > holy crap REALLY?!?!?! > > This guy doesn't belong anyw

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
This lunatic is currently leading in early returns in Michigan, 42% to 39% over Romney with 8% of precincts reporting. Yes. It has come to this. Judah On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > OK. I don't chime in on any of this crap because yeah, it's politics... but > holy cra

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Erika L. Rich
OK. I don't chime in on any of this crap because yeah, it's politics... but holy crap REALLY?!?!?! This guy doesn't belong anywhere near being nominated for presidential candidate. He belongs in an insane asylum. I mean REALLY?!?!?!? Even throwing out the contraception argument and the gay marr

Re: virtualbox

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Yeah, I love Virtualbox. I haven't updated since it was bought by Oracle but I used to use it pretty regularly. Quite solid, hooked into the virtualization capabilities of the AMD chip in my laptop. Free, easy to use, can import VMWare images. Nothing bad to say about it. Judah On Tue, Feb 28, 2

Re: virtualbox

2012-02-28 Thread Brian Thornton
I had success with Ubuntu... Please see http://www.thecrumb.com/wiki/virtualbox_and_coldfusion_9 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Anyone have comments on/used virtualbox from Oracle ? > > > > ~| Order t

virtualbox

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Raley
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Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Guns don't kill peopleI do. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, its not so much how many people guns kill, its how many people > guns kill in relation to how many guns don't kill people? OK, I will > admit it..I ma being snarky > > However, every year I bet there ar

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
That would not make me feel better. Usually when you insult me I need to break out the dictionary. :D On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > If it will make you feel any better I can insult you for a while. > -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you c

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
So, its not so much how many people guns kill, its how many people guns kill in relation to how many guns don't kill people? OK, I will admit it..I ma being snarky However, every year I bet there are probably millions of bullets fired at shooting ranges, competitions, law enforcement training, fo

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Dana
well, this guy went on to be Prime Minister of Canada, and turned out to be a but of an asshole. But on this point, he completely nailed it: "there's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation." http://archives.cbc.ca/politics/rights_freedoms/topics/538/' On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:4

Re: Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread William Bowen
Carousel! Carousel! On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > ...and I, for one, think we ought to give him the opportunity. I'm > sure there will be 72 virgins awaiting him in Heaven upon his > Martyrdom. > > http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/santorum-ill-die-stop-same

Santorum offers to die for the fight against same sex marriage

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
...and I, for one, think we ought to give him the opportunity. I'm sure there will be 72 virgins awaiting him in Heaven upon his Martyrdom. http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/santorum-ill-die-stop-same-sex-marriages Cheers, Judah ~~

Re: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I ought to run one of our ferrets against the cat. He'd be an ideal candidate for the Virginia Repubican Party, He's white and kind of fat. On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, PT wrote: > > He is 52 in cat years! > > On 2/28/2012 3:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > > I figure someone will push to di

Re: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread PT
He is 52 in cat years! On 2/28/2012 3:55 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I figure someone will push to disallow him, Hank is too young to vote > let alone run for a senate seat. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:/

Re: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I figure someone will push to disallow him, Hank is too young to vote let alone run for a senate seat. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I maaay have written in Pat Paulsen for a couple of positions over the > years...even after he was dead. > > Judah > > On Tue, Feb 28,

Re: FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
I maaay have written in Pat Paulsen for a couple of positions over the years...even after he was dead. Judah On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73395.html > > Hank the cat running for Senate in Virginia > By: Associated Press >

FW: Hank the Cat for Senate.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73395.html Hank the cat running for Senate in Virginia By: Associated Press February 28, 2012 02:24 PM EST SPRINGFIELD, Va. — A new U.S. Senate candidate in Virginia wears a tie, has a campaign website and even launched an ad. One big difference? He has

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I had to take a course in modern middle east history for my breadth requirement in college. Funny how some things never leave you. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > My misunderstanding, then. I should do some more reading on this > particular time/place at some point. > >

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
My misunderstanding, then. I should do some more reading on this particular time/place at some point. Cheers, Judah On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The King David Hotel was used as a military headquarters and for > housing military personnel. In a way it was a legit

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
BTW I think we all got the joke. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > The King David Hotel was used as a military headquarters and for > housing military personnel. In a way it was a legit target if the Lehi > was a legit resistance organization. But the group also had a bomb

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The King David Hotel was used as a military headquarters and for housing military personnel. In a way it was a legit target if the Lehi was a legit resistance organization. But the group also had a bombing campaign in London that targeted officials involved with the independence negotiations and a

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > My first comment on the this thread was supposed to be a double > entendre between guns and penises. I guess I have to work harder on > that comedy thing. Now if she was a guy.. Oh, I got and appreciated the comedy, believe me. I'm ju

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> The only part that I'm going to respond to is the bit about the Hotel > David bombing as I'm not familiar with the other intricacies you guys > are talking about, but it was always my understanding that everyone > has historically laughed at the post-bombing assertion that there were News to me

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
The Hotel was taken over by the British and turned into a military headquarters. There were three warning calls made. One was ignored. How often does an attack on a military instillation come with a warning? . On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > The only part that I'm go

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
The only part that I'm going to respond to is the bit about the Hotel David bombing as I'm not familiar with the other intricacies you guys are talking about, but it was always my understanding that everyone has historically laughed at the post-bombing assertion that there were warning phoned in?

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'd prefer relatively neutral sources for the data, like the FBI Crime Stats for firearm stats or the NITSA or NIIHS for the vehicle information. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I never said handguns == cars. > > In 2008 firearms caused 10.8 deaths per 100,000 - http://b

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If it will make you feel any better I can insult you for a while. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Aw..shucks...I am really feeling the love...you guys and gals sure are > swell > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:29 AM, GMoney wrote: >> >> This is why Judah's opinions ar

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No Deir Yassin was not an innocent town. The arab fighters did not evacuate the civilians. But the Lehi and Irgun as far as I can tell did go much too far. As for the contact with the Nazis, that happened in 1943-1944, Wikipedia (fwiw) has a fairly good summary on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Dana
google Sallie Mae. Not that I am especially a fan of the process; having a lot of trouble with my student loans getting re-sold. But they don't have income requirements, to answer your actual question. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Vivec wrote: > > How is a poor person going to get a student

Re: Santorum's outbursts - insight into what he truly believes?

2012-02-28 Thread William Bowen
IIRC, McCain did the same thing with Bin Laden. "I know how to get him, you just have to elect me to find out," or words to that effect. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If Gingrich knows how to get gas prices down to $2.50 a gallon he > should tell us how, instead of forci

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread PT
The US gubment subsidizes/backs a lot of student loans received through FASFA. They also provide grants (free money). The state kicks in some as well, usually. The unsubsidized loans accrue interest, but payments are deferred as long as the student performs well and remains in school pursuin

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Cameron Childress
This is the next bubble. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Yea...go into debt to get an education. Its the American Way!!! > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sam wrote: >> Get a student loan and then pay it back when you finish. ...

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Obviously you never saw the movie Christine. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:26 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Yet at the same time those hand guns and cars were killing people, billions > and billions of trips were completed safely where a car was used to > transport a person from point A to point B. Hand g

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I never said handguns == cars. > > In 2008 firearms caused 10.8 deaths per 100,000 - http://bit.ly/xRmGzM > In 2008 automobile accidents caused 12.30 per 100,000 - > http://1.usa.gov/xBkg0V > > (And I will state now that I did not go check

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
I never said handguns == cars. In 2008 firearms caused 10.8 deaths per 100,000 - http://bit.ly/xRmGzM In 2008 automobile accidents caused 12.30 per 100,000 - http://1.usa.gov/xBkg0V (And I will state now that I did not go check the political affiliation of the group in the first link- so Larry m

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Vivec wrote: > > How is a poor person going to get a student loan? > What bank would qualify them for a loan? > > Basically by agreeing to this you are saying that the poor should not > receive an education. Then in the next breath one says that the poor should

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
Aren't student loans based on a persons the future earnings forecasts? I wonder if a student loan is just as bad as free tuition as far as motivation. . On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Vivec wrote: > > How is a poor person going to get a student loan? > What bank would qualify them for a loan

Re: FW: Report: WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange indicted in U.S.

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'll believe in the indictment when I see it on Wikileaks. :) And anything Stratfor says in regards to Wikileaks should be taken with a grain of salt: "WikiLeaks said it has more than five million emails from Stratfor, based in Texas, dating from 2004 to 2011. “The emails show Stratfor’s web of

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
It beats learning to live by the handout. I think it builds responsibly. Some of us worked during high-school to help pay for college. . On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Yea...go into debt to get an education. Its the American Way!!! > ~~

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Vivec
How is a poor person going to get a student loan? What bank would qualify them for a loan? Basically by agreeing to this you are saying that the poor should not receive an education. Then in the next breath one says that the poor should work their way out of their slump. The best way they can ge

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
Wow, why so obnoxious all the time? I did take math. Because I took math I know that 72k is much higher than 30k. BTW, Intermountain Power Plant Utah is on of the largest coal-fired plants in the US . On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Yeah, cause 13 thousand is more than

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
Yea...go into debt to get an education. Its the American Way!!! On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sam wrote: > > Get a student loan and then pay it back when you finish. > > . > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Vivec wrote: >> >> So what are the people who cannot afford an education supposed

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Before I respond to the specific points you made, I'm going to have to do more research. I do know that it was not some innocent and peaceful village with no combatants, no history of attacks, and no reason for being attacked. I especially want to look up that accusation about the Lehi negotiating

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
To be fair, the same could be said of the Democratic party, and any politician, really. The less educated someone is the easier it is to fool them - and to get them to vote for you. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Well you do realize that the most important demographi

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Aw..shucks...I am really feeling the love...you guys and gals sure are > swell > Now if i could only get you to retire that silly "hand guns = cars" argument, we'd be best buds :) ~

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Stroz
Aw..shucks...I am really feeling the love...you guys and gals sure are swell On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:29 AM, GMoney wrote: > > This is why Judah's opinions are respected on this list, even when people > disagree with them, and you are considered a joke, Eric. > > I too disagree with Scott,

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Polls neq Facts > FIne, then go research it yourselfand when you find out it's as I said, don't blame me for your wasted time. yeesh. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anth

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Less of an atrocity? I disagree with the label of atrocity. We know what real atrocities are. We know how to apply the label properly. They committed murder. They targeted the British military offices but they knew innocents would be effected. Even with trying to lower the numbers of innocents, th

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
Polls neq Facts On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:13 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> And those facts would be located where? >> > > I don't remember where I saw it the last time we talked about it...but i'm > checking some of the exit polls from recent elec

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
Yeah, cause 13 thousand is more than 28 thousand or 177 thousand every day. Did you even take math? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Sam wrote: > > It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants. > It also shows that coal is the fastest growing form of energy.\ ~

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
Get a student loan and then pay it back when you finish. . On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Vivec wrote: > > So what are the people who cannot afford an education supposed to do? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html > > "An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require > every student at a public college in the state, regardless of

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
It says half of the power comes from out of state coal burning plants. It also shows that coal is the fastest growing form of energy. . On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Not out here.  I've posted links demonstrating that before.  Almost > all of the electricity used in Alamed

FW: Report: WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange indicted in U.S.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/02/report-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-indicted-in-115779.html Report: WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange indicted in U.S. By JOSH GERSTEIN | 2/28/12 9:22 AM EST A top official at the private research service Stratfor told colleagues via e-m

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Maureen wrote: > > And those facts would be located where? > I don't remember where I saw it the last time we talked about it...but i'm checking some of the exit polls from recent elections on CNN.com right now. Like i said, i think there's a slight edge to Repu

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Try a dislike of the right wing. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:00 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >> >> "Well you do realize that the most important demographic for the Republican >> party is the uneducated." >> >> Can you back that up with any facts? >

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
And those facts would be located where? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:00 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >> >> "Well you do realize that the most important demographic for the Republican >> party is the uneducated." >> >> Can you back that up with any fa

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
They are not. Typically there are 3 levels of tuition, in-state, regular and foreign. Foreign students typically pay the most, followed by students from other states, and then in-state students. So what is wrong with favoring students from the state. People who go to college in their home state te

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
The overwhelming refusal of some to acknowledge that funding education is the best investment we could make astonishes me. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Vivec wrote: > > So what are the people who cannot afford an education supposed to do?

Re: Santorum's outbursts - insight into what he truly believes?

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
About time to invent a fart collector. Put it in the car seat and eat more beans. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > You missed the context. > > Newt had just found Jose's Mexican Food Truck, where a 2 pound bean burrito > is only $2.50. > > Trust me, there will be p

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Well you do realize that the most important demographic for the Republican > party is the uneducated." > > Can you back that up with any facts? > The facts actually speak to the other direction. Registered republicans tend to have more s

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Vivec
So what are the people who cannot afford an education supposed to do? On 28 February 2012 10:49, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Exactly why is it the state's responsibility to pay or help pay the tuition > of any student? > > ~| Ord

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
Not out here. I've posted links demonstrating that before. Almost all of the electricity used in Alameda County, where I currently live, comes from alternative energy sources. Statewide, the most common fuels are Natural Gas, Hydro and Nuclear. Coal is used, but in steadily reduced amounts. h

Re: Santorum's outbursts - insight into what he truly believes?

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
You missed the context. Newt had just found Jose's Mexican Food Truck, where a 2 pound bean burrito is only $2.50. Trust me, there will be plenty of gas at that price. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > > > If Gingrich knows how to get gas prices down to $2.50 a gallon he >

Re: Santorum's outbursts - insight into what he truly believes?

2012-02-28 Thread Maureen
I think if he got the message to the electorate and it was viable, those making policy would have no choice but to respond. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > However, if he did spill the beans about 2.50 gas and was something that > would actually work, do you really think

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Bastion of GOP ideals and the peace, love and harmony that comes from Faith. What would Jesus Do? Charge the poor bastards and say Welcome to Life [bitches]." Exactly why is it the state's responsibility to pay or help pay the tuition of any student? After teaching for years at the local commu

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Well you do realize that the most important demographic for the Republican party is the uneducated." Can you back that up with any facts? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the e

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"what I am astating is that articles in a peer reviewed journal has much more weight than an ideologically based report by a thinktank that gets most of its money from spreaking hysertia." That would be great if you actually used the criteria as a two way street. J - Suppose you were an idiot

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants?" Sure. In other states. CA can't make their own apparently, or enough. They need to change the name anyway. It can't be the HOV lane. J - The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the la

Re: Post Racial American: Ebony and Ivory

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Well, we know Gruss didn't watch the KU/MU game.or he'd feel silly for writing "made up and marketed drama". What a joke." One can make a convincing argument that the NBA is rigged. Much harder for the college game. You can't rig a 30 foot jump shot over a 7'1" center as time expires. J

Re: After promising to enhance whistle-blower laws to protect federal workers, the Obama administration has used the Espionage Act as a kind of ad hoc Official Secrets Act.

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"IMO, the worst advisers are Eric Holder and Valerie Jarrett. I find that almost everything the administration does that I disagree with came from one or the other." Some ague that Slumlord Jarrett is actually running the show. Anyway, I agree. Both suck. I think Holder's time is short. He h

Re: After promising to enhance whistle-blower laws to protect federal workers, the Obama administration has used the Espionage Act as a kind of ad hoc Official Secrets Act.

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"But even back as a candidate, I've been very troubled by his militaristic and corporatist habits and this is certainly an extension of that trend. A disturbing one." It'll get a lot worse if he wins a second term. Unfortunately, there a good chance this can happen considering what the GOP has t

Re: Dr Who Game for Ipod - Free for a limited time only

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"So you are saying its OK for companies (who are people too according to the right wing) for manipulate young children for profit." No. I believe I said it was borderline unethical. Definitely sleazy. BTW, don't forget Apple's complicity in this. They allow this to happen so that they can get

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Sam wrote: > > Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants? > > In Cali it comes from windmill farts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe

Re: Santorum's outbursts - insight into what he truly believes?

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"If Gingrich knows how to get gas prices down to $2.50 a gallon he should tell us how, instead of forcing people to elect him to find out. If he really cared about this country, he wouldn't sit silent while the people suffer. Since he isn't explaining how he would accomplish this, I suspect it i

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Sam
Doesn't electricity come from mostly coal burning power plants? . On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > It's cheaper to pay a rebate on the electric car than to deal with the > pollution from the gasoline and diesel engines.  Clean air is a > precious commodity out here. ~~

Re: Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well you do realize that the most important demographic for the Republican party is the uneducated. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html > > "An Arizona House committee passed

Re: Dr. Ruth was a paramilitary sniper

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Deir Yassin - most of the people killed were civilians. According to what I read, many were killed execution style. Assassination of 2 peace negotiators. The Lehi negotiated with the Nazis and attempted to ally with them. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > I would not u

Re: Speaking of WTF is wrong with these people...

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Very true, when you remove the anonymity people will react. But they have to know there is none at that point. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM, PT wrote: > > I have heard tha tthe best thing to do in those situations, if one has > the presence of mind, is to make eye contact with one person and

Re: Chevy Volt ready for California HOV access, extra $1,500 in rebates

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Well don't you know that all that pollution stuff is really pseudoscience, just like global warming. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > It's cheaper to pay a rebate on the electric car than to deal with the > pollution from the gasoline and diesel engines.  Clean air is

Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
This is why Judah's opinions are respected on this list, even when people disagree with them, and you are considered a joke, Eric. I too disagree with Scott, but he's not a shill...he just has a different opinion. Debate him on the merits of his arguments, don't attack him ad hominem. And it suc

Re: Dr Who Game for Ipod - Free for a limited time only

2012-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So you are saying its OK for companies (who are people too according to the right wing) for manipulate young children for profit. Damn I am so glad we don't live in your world. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Manipulating those who don't have the wherewithall to decide

Re: Post Racial American: Ebony and Ivory

2012-02-28 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > It's as much of a sport as anything else on TV: > > * Athletes whose drug use simply begins at steroids? Check. > > * Made-up and marketed drama? Check. > > * Outcomes designed rather than evolved? Check. > > Yeah, I'd say the WWE is prob

Republican Party to poor students - Welcome to life.

2012-02-28 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/michelle-ugenti-arizona-rep-justifies-tuition-hike_n_1304731.html "An Arizona House committee passed a bill last week that would require every student at a public college in the state, regardless of economic status, to pay a minimum of $2,000 in tuition."

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