RE: Shameless jerk gets schooled by congresswoman

2013-11-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Yup...don't mess with those Illinois vets ;-) She definitely schooled his ass... I am proud to have her as one of my reps. She recently beat out tea bagger, dead beat dad, and utter asshat, Joe Walsh. Eric -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednes

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Sam
Tac doesn't sound familiar. I remember it as the guy that started the list died and his wife found the list while going through his computer and sent a message to the list. Someone then took it over, I thought that was when Mike stepped up. . On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Michael Dinowitz < m

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
I hope it doesn't go away... I may not post much but I do follow along some. I know that if I need it CFTalk has always came through for me. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfus

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
ah, i forgot about the regex ninja, mr doom. (but who could forget the line monster?) On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I don't remember when I joined. I was part of the Evolt community from > early on and did most of my web dev stuff there. There was a strong CF crew

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Judah McAuley
I don't remember when I joined. I was part of the Evolt community from early on and did most of my web dev stuff there. There was a strong CF crew at the beginning. I came over here some years later, I think. I unsubscribed from cf-talk awhile ago as I haven't done any CF work in a couple years.

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > I didn’t realize there was a pre-MD time. I think I started in 99 or > so….right before I left UPS. > It was very brief. MD's run the list for the vast majority of the time it's existed. I miss the Churvii (and who remembers PLUM) - T

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Tac asked me to take over in 96 and I ran with it. I don't remember hearing that he died though. :( On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Sam wrote: > > > '96 maybe? The guy that started it died. > > > Tac died? Didn't know him beyond the

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Was waiting for someone to drop that one. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Hey, you can't blame us for some shrinkage. > > It is COLDfusion after all. > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anth

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Sam wrote: > '96 maybe? The guy that started it died. Tac died? Didn't know him beyond the list and didn't keep up with him. That sucks. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Dana
I am still here and like the list but have been far happier since I started filtering it On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Rick Eidson wrote: > > Crash up Derby! > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:33

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I didn’t realize there was a pre-MD time. I think I started in 99 or so….right before I left UPS. Left the list for a bit about 2 years back, but missed some of the people so I came back. The list definitely isn’t as friendly anymore. Not near as funny as it used to be either. I miss th

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Yes. There are a few that CF has that Railo doesn't and vice versa. Railo is pretty much "the stuff you can do in java without bolting on a bunch of junk". So things like Exchange integration and other outside library stuff isn't in there

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Sam
'96 maybe? The guy that started it died. . On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > I started on the list like 13 years ago. > > > > I joined CF-Talk before MD ran it (97?) and I suspect I joined CF-Community > within

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
Crash up Derby! Rick -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: CF Community Shrinkage How do cars fight? ~| Orde

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread LRS Scout
Hahaha Swype Cats and dogs. On Nov 13, 2013 4:33 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > How do cars fight? > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > I started on the list like 13 years ago. > > > > Many of the people on this list feel more like family professional > > contacts

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Hey, you can't blame us for some shrinkage. It is COLDfusion after all. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.house

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
How do cars fight? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I started on the list like 13 years ago. > > Many of the people on this list feel more like family professional > contacts. I've been lucky enough to meet a good number of people through > here, quality people. > > We mig

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Yes. There are a few that CF has that Railo doesn't and vice versa. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Rick Eidson wrote: > > I will have to look into it.. is it same tags? > > Rick > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholog

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > I started on the list like 13 years ago. > I joined CF-Talk before MD ran it (97?) and I suspect I joined CF-Community within days of it's creation as an offshoot. -Cameron ... ~~~

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
I will have to look into it.. is it same tags? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
That was a different one I was at that one to... I was working at Uhlig/Welcome Link for short while. That was the last job I had since I went on my own. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread LRS Scout
I started on the list like 13 years ago. Many of the people on this list feel more like family professional contacts. I've been lucky enough to meet a good number of people through here, quality people. We might fight like cars and food sometimes but I think there is still very real admiration a

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Railo is an open source alternative to Adobe's CF. Its also much faster. CF is like a family station wagon while Railo is more like a John Cooper Works Mini S with the full turbo and racing package. Railo has a much smaller footprint and is very fast. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Rick Eidso

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Matt Blatchley
I think I was at that same meeting. I think it was Uhlig who sponsored that one if I remember correctly. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Rick Eidson wrote: > > I was a contractor at Sprint hired to do some web work. Was handed a > project > and needed a way to quickly pull information from a

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
I am still doing CF with my clients. But it's all pretty basic stuff. I have been removed from anything innovative for some time... I am still doing the same type of code I was doing 10 years ago. I have no idea what Railo is or how to use it. Maybe some classes would be good. Rick -Origin

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
I was a contractor at Sprint hired to do some web work. Was handed a project and needed a way to quickly pull information from a database and display it on a web page. I started researching different ways and an employee in a another department showed me CF3 (I think it was 3). I talked my supervi

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Cameron Childress
I'm still seeing a bunch of CF work but it's not like it use to be. We are still deploying new CF/Railo apps into companies that didn't have any CF in them before. Some is also for companies who came to us seeking "CF talent". Doing a bunch of Mura stuff now. Deploying on top of Railo by default

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread J.J. Merrick
Seems to be mostly legacy jobs with companies that have had buy in. My "Main" job is CF but they are moving to Groovy. Side stuff is all PHP/CodeIgniter stuff. I like developing... what language I use tends to not be an issue. Nowadays it seems that the server tier is less and less of an issue. Yo

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread LRS Scout
Took me a day to get multiple offers for dev work. The rates have flattened it seems but the market is still pretty strong. On Nov 13, 2013 3:14 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > Quite possibly. There are no where near the same number of jobs for CF devs > compared to five years ago. And a signif

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread LRS Scout
Bwahahaha! On Nov 13, 2013 2:51 PM, "GMoney" wrote: > > COLD FUSION IS DYING, AGAIN > > > *evil laugh* > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > > > With HOF being up and down like a Yo-Yo, I've found StackOverflow to be > > pretty good for questions. But I still c

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Quite possibly. There are no where near the same number of jobs for CF devs compared to five years ago. And a significant portion of those are projects that only maintain legacy apps, or conversion project to .Net or Java. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM, GMoney wrote: > > COLD FUSION IS DYING

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
No, this list got started when the complaints about OT posts on CF-Talk got to a certain level. CF-Talk was set as the tech only list and this as the not-really-tech list. Never worked out 100%, but worked well enough. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:43 PM, GMoney wrote: > > This list got started f

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Matt Blatchley
I just regurgitated in my mouth More like adding Bootstrap, HTML5, css3 and XXX On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM, GMoney wrote: > > COLD FUSION IS DYING, AGAIN > > > *evil laugh* > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > > > With HOF being up and down like a

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread GMoney
COLD FUSION IS DYING, AGAIN *evil laugh* On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > With HOF being up and down like a Yo-Yo, I've found StackOverflow to be > pretty good for questions. But I still check out CFTalk once in a while and > even try to answer questions. > > I t

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
With HOF being up and down like a Yo-Yo, I've found StackOverflow to be pretty good for questions. But I still check out CFTalk once in a while and even try to answer questions. I think that what's happening here is what's happening with CF in general. Its a shrinking market. I've mostly moved fr

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread GMoney
This list got started from a meeting in Kansas City? Where at? And why would sprint fire you for going? (your post has given me many questions!) On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Rick Eidson wrote: > > I think I have been on this list since it started... I have only went to > one > meeting and

RE: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Eidson
I think I have been on this list since it started... I have only went to one meeting and I think that is the one that got this started.. here in Kansas City. Was actually fired from Sprint for going. It has dropped off but I still enjoy it and I use CFTalk when I need some help still. Rick ~~~

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Ray Champagne
I think there are still a lot of lurkers like me, but you're spot on with the regurgitation. For me, the reason I stay is for the occasional non-political posts, which are few and far between. Thank jeebus for the mute button in gmail! On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
just on a personal side. I meet most people here at one conferance or another for, the 2000 Allaire developer conferance on to a few cf-united. in the last 6 years i have not been to a single con. think that may have some thing to do with it. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson w

Re: CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Not just you, which is why the community keeps shrinking. Plus, not really many new people in the last 5 years. Most of my "board" time is now spent with WordPress peeps, and local Boston dev boards. And I am out 2 or 3 times a week at various meetups, which consumes a lot of that free time. T

CF Community Shrinkage

2013-11-13 Thread Cameron Childress
The average pace of posts seems to be slowing more and more lately and the ones who do post seem to be regurgitating the same things more and more. ...or is it just me? -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now

Re: Shameless jerk gets schooled by congresswoman

2013-11-13 Thread Scott Stroz
What. An. Ass. On a side note, I hope I never have to sit across from Rep. Duckworth. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > This guy should go directly to jail > > > http://www.upworthy.com/whats-the-worst-thing-you-could-say-to-a-congresswoman-who-lost-her-legs-in-ba