Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-17 Thread Won Lee
Even a broken clock is right two times a day. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > To give you another example of how stupid of a decision this was: > > Matt Millen thinks it was a good idea. ~| Want to r

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-17 Thread Scott Stroz
> well let them score really quick and give Brady a shot. > > As a Giants fan, I have always respected Bill's football IQ. > > http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/bill-belichick-is-great/ > > http://www.advancednflstats

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-17 Thread Won Lee
rlier. I mean if you are going to use the argument that you want to win or lose with Brady then might as well let them score really quick and give Brady a shot. As a Giants fan, I have always respected Bill's football IQ. http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/bill-belichick-is-gr

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Speaking of football statistics, I was reading the other day about a local high school football team that was celebrating Senior Day for their last home game (also last game of the regular season). Alas, they wouldn't be making the playoffs because they lost every single game that season (0-12 I b

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Won Lee
Didn't the XFL have something similar to that? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:27 PM, G Money wrote: > > I have an idea. > > Each team can line up any 11 players it chooses, at it's own 20 yard line. > The football is suspended 50 feet in the air above the 50 yard line. At the > sound of the horn, bo

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread G Money
I have an idea. Each team can line up any 11 players it chooses, at it's own 20 yard line. The football is suspended 50 feet in the air above the 50 yard line. At the sound of the horn, both teams can start sprinting towards mid field...at the same time, the ball drops...and bounces wherever grav

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I think what makes it even more of a bone headed move is who it was who did it. I would almost understand a rookie coach making that call, or a coach of a team trying to 'really' his team. But Bill, with the Patriots? It was just dumb. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > >

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, one of those 2 is 11, and the other one has multiple superbowl wins, and makes 6 million a year. =) Faith, Scott. Keep the faith. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > To give you an idea of how dumb of a move this was, when I told my 11 > year old about it he said, "I

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
To give you an idea of how dumb of a move this was, when I told my 11 year old about it he said, "I wouldn't even do that when I am playing Madden" On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > In Belichick we trust. > > I don't think he did it unthinkingly. > > I think he believed i

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I remember finding something similar a while back. Its like 60% of the time the team winning the coin toss wins game, but only about 20% do it on first possession. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:16 PM, G Money wrote: > > The NFL has stats on that.this is from memory but, I think the receiving >

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
This here is a few years old, but I can;t imagine the numbers have changed much. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2002-10-03-overtime_x.htm On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Won Lee wrote: > > Anyone have access to a DB large enough to see what the winning % of the > kicking team

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread G Money
The NFL has stats on that.this is from memory but, I think the receiving team wins over 60% of the time. However, the number of games where the receiving team wins on their FIRST POSSESSION is quite a bit lower. This is the stat the NFL always breaks out when they say that their overtime rule

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Won Lee
Anyone have access to a DB large enough to see what the winning % of the kicking team vs the receiving team in OT is? For some reason, I remember the probability being on the side of the kicking team even without factoring in the wind which was a major impact in that game. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Ras Tafari
oh, gotcha... WOW. what an asshat move that was. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, G Money wrote: > > Marty Morninwheg..on Thanksgiving I believe (which is one of the only > reasons I'd ever be watching a Lions game :) > > Naturally the other team went right down and scored, game over. Hilari

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread G Money
Marty Morninwheg..on Thanksgiving I believe (which is one of the only reasons I'd ever be watching a Lions game :) Naturally the other team went right down and scored, game over. Hilarious. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > that really happened??? > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Ras Tafari
that really happened??? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM, G Money wrote: > > Come on nowwhat about that Lions coach who elected to KICK when he won > the overtime coin flip > > That will never be topped. > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I said it will be 'one of' the worst coaching decisions ever, not the worst (sorry for the caps there). That distinction, IMHO, goes to 'The Fumble' with Joe Pisarcik (Eagles fans know it as 'The Miracle at the Meadowlands') On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM, G Money wrote: > > Come on nowwha

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread G Money
Come on nowwhat about that Lions coach who elected to KICK when he won the overtime coin flip That will never be topped. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > > it will go down as one of his WORST coaching decisi

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
I have not read one article or heard one 'talking head' who thinks it was the best move. It was so not worth the risk, I don't care who you are. Even if it was the first drive of the quarter, it was a dumb move. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > In Belichick we trus

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
In Belichick we trust. I don't think he did it unthinkingly. I think he believed it was his best move at the time. I think it is possible that he overthought, and made one more "smart move" than he needed to to outmaneuver the Colts. But more likely, I think he looked at the odds, and felt the

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > it will go down as one of his WORST coaching decisions. Not just his. It is one of THE worst coaching decisions...ever. -- Scott Stroz --- The DOM is retarded. http://xkcd.com/386/ ~

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Stroz
No one on Earth thinks it was a wrong move to go for it. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Won Lee wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > >> >> Hopefully, everyone thinks it was just >> a brain fart, > > > Jerry, > > You thought it was the wrong move to go for it? > >

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Ras Tafari
it was moronic. 1. momentum was CLEARLY on the side of the colts. 2. they had JUST scored. 3. at home, with seconds left, you think peyton's just gonna have a bad moment? nah. it will go down as one of his WORST coaching decisions. i, however, LOVED every second of it, as i had picked indy in my

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Won Lee
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Hopefully, everyone thinks it was just > a brain fart, Jerry, You thought it was the wrong move to go for it? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with somethin

Re: Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think it means that his defense, especially his defensive backfield, is worse than I thought. He was sure that given 3 minutes, and 80 yards, Payton would score on them, and leave no time left on the clock. As a Pats fan, my knees are shaking. Hopefully, everyone thinks it was just a brain far

Bill Belichick

2009-11-16 Thread Won Lee
Curious what the rest of the community thought about Belichick going for it on 4th-and-2 last night. Any thought? W ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mail