Got in on this late... sorry.
Nick McClure wrote:
>
> Well the reason most CS programs include a lot of math, is to help teach logic.
>
> I have worked with people who have note come from a CS background, some are
> journalism majors some are art majors, but either way they had little math
> ex
Ok Judith...it's finally up there.Couldn't get all the hair into the
pictureit goes well past my waist.. :o)
http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/index.cfm?RecordID=22
and me only being a 37 year young Scorpio.. }:o)
The Other Judith
Judith Dinowitz put into words:
>Judith,
>
>Ok, lets
huket on fonix worct for me
sorry I know it was bad but I had to.
At 01:17 PM 4/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > And about grammar, I can't believe how many smart, talented people do not
> > know the difference between possessive and plural (e.g. "I drank three
>cup's
> > of coffee", "Change given
High And Drew Peter Sun,
Yew hour write! Butt you're spell cheque is knot vary in tell a gent.
Been
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From: Andrew Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:18 AM
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> And about grammar, I can&#
> And about grammar, I can't believe how many smart, talented people do not
> know the difference between possessive and plural (e.g. "I drank three
cup's
> of coffee", "Change given for customer's only"), never heard of an adverb
> ("They drove over here quick" instead of "quickly"), don't unders
hehe..
in a strange twist of fate.
just received notification that the old art school i drop out of is having a
panel review of portfolios.
a buddy here at nbbj, wants me to sit in to look at the schools new
departments web design & development portfolios.
i had plans to go to the Banff Mountain
I added myself...
http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/index.cfm?RecordID=21
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From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
> Judith
Judith,
Ok, lets see some of that red hair -- I'd love to know what the other Judith
looks like. : )
http://www.houseoffusion.com/users
BTW, I never got a CS degree, just a BA in Journalism, so don't feel alone!
Judith (Dinowitz)
> Man, with all these CS folks around here, I'm startin' to fee
> Okay, we've got skydiving and extreme skiing covered... guess it's time to
> add another dangerous pastime to our community's repertoire...
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/index.cfm?RecordID=11
> ohhhI love snakes! I can't tell by the picture, but what kind is it?
Timber Rattlesna
e are only two ways to live your life: One is as though nothing is a
miracle, the other is as though everything is." - Albert Einstein
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> If you want to skydive it is very easy - as easy as falling out
> of a plane...
> (groan)
>
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/index.cfm?RecordID=7
Okay, we've got skydiving and extreme skiing covered... guess it's time to
add another dangerous pasttime to our community's repertoire...
htt
If you want to skydive it is very easy - as easy as falling out of a plane...
(groan)
http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/index.cfm?RecordID=7
actually that picture is of my first skydive - the two guys with me are there in case
I flipped out. I took about 6
hours of training before the jump. Wit
.
Fortunately, the "guru" we were with got her down the run safely, and she
was so proud of herself she let me live!
Ben
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>only remaining adventure
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>only remaining adventures that are at all risky are skiing and my family
>. I'm trying to fight my way back to being a halfway-decent
>intermediate skii
>only remaining adventures that are at all risky are skiing and my family
>. I'm trying to fight my way back to being a halfway-decent
>intermediate skiier after a muscle injury.
Has anyone ever been on the peak at Big Sky Montana? I had quite the adventure up
there last year. I had to get hau
t the bear; some days the bear eats you.
> -Original Message-
> From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 19:04
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: CS vs BFA
>
>
> Man, with a
ot;mortal toil".
Ben
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:21 AM
To: CF-Community
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Ben --
It's interesting that you would ask me about counselors. Some of them are
worth their salt, others are just wa
e
>of mine.
>
>Ben
>
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>From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:00 AM
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>
>
>And that is what is cool about programming. Don't have to worry about comma
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:00 PM
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And that is what is cool about programming.
At 12:42 PM 4/9/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>I was never "afraid" of math. I just didn't like it. I wasn't a "numbers
>cruncher". Wasn't any fun for me. I much preferred painting and choirbut
>also woodshop and metal shopso there was some amount of math a person
>needed to know, but since I was
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From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
Daniel,
Philosophical question: which is worse - bad counselors (then), or none at
all (now)?
And about grammar, I can't believe how many smart, talented people d
11:00 AM
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And that is what is cool about programming. Don't have to worry about comma
splices.
And besides, it is just email. If I am doing something for a live site or a
paying client, then I will have it checked before it goes live.
At 12:41 PM 4/9/
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>
>Ben
>
>
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>From: Daniel Dewey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:36 AM
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>Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
>
>
>Like they say
>
>those who can - do
>those who can't - teach
>those who ca
Monday, April 09, 2001 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
> To Marc's great credit, IMHO, at least he turned to code from law, and not
> politics!!
>
~~
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From: Daniel Dewey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:36 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
Like they say
those who can - do
those who can't - teach
those who can't teach - counsel
I absolutely hated my guidance counselors in High School. You
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From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:43 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
I was never "afr
I agree, it is not the only way, but it will make things go faster in the
beginning. Once people get used to the ideas of structured logic then the
math skills aren't that big of a deal. But until people get used to it,
math can help speed that process along some.
At 12:18 PM 4/9/2001 -0300,
Yup..thats what the math is there for..to teach and help practice logical
reasoning.
However, doesn't writing Algorithms before coding do the same thing?
I still find myself drawing up some pseudo-code before approaching a
computing/programming intensive problem before I go to CF or VB or whateve
April 09, 2001 9:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
>One of the important parts of an application is the logic structure. Things
>must happen in a particular order or else it might work differently. While
>most people understand this, some of the people I have worked with
>One of the important parts of an application is the logic structure. Things
>must happen in a particular order or else it might work differently. While
>most people understand this, some of the people I have worked with in the
>past have had trouble writing these apps.
That's what philosophy is
bert Einstein
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:10 PM
To: CF-Community
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I'm always amazed at the number of people who consider math to be 'hard'.
It really isn't, but we're taught f
So when will be able to visualise a photo of you, Miss
Dances-With-Horsies-For-Ten-Years ?
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
Well the reason most CS programs include a lot of math, is to help teach
logic.
I have worked with people who have note come from
> but to
> visualize it might require some LSD.
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e me an example?
> >
> >Erika
> >
> >"There are only two ways to live your life: One is as though nothing is a
> >miracle, the other is as though everything is." - Albert Einstein
> >
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From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:08 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
Nick,
For the mathematically challenged, those subjects
I can visualize 4d arrays. I understand how a 6d array would work, but to
visualize it might require some LSD.
>The thing that annoys the guys here when I can "visualise" 3d and 4d arrays
>to code... you try explaining a 6d array to someone...
>
>Philip Arnold
>Director
>Certified ColdFusion D
gt;
>Erika
>
>"There are only two ways to live your life: One is as though nothing is a
>miracle, the other is as though everything is." - Albert Einstein
>
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>From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001
To Marc's great credit, IMHO, at least he turned to code from law, and not
politics!!
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From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 7:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
So, an English major who got a law degree (didn'
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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:31 AM
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> So I still don't see where it comes into
> play.unless you are talking about physically seeing how to get to the
> bottom of calculatio
> So I still don't see where it comes into
> play.unless you are talking about physically seeing how to get to the
> bottom of calculation like in shopping carts and things.which I can
> visually see and work through.
>
> Just because I am curious how others code, can you give me an exampl
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This is strange, I find myself using algebra and calc all the time in my
programming.
and I am not being a smart ass here.
At 08:35 PM 4/8/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>The short version:
>
>Tried co
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From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
Cool! Did you have an area of specialization? If so, what was it? Do you
still 'keep in practice'?
Marc Funaro put into words:
>I have a degree in M
CCAD = Columbus College of Anxiety and Despair }:o)
Judith - Who can now use her OSU degree to get handicapped parking in
Athens ;o)
Paul Ihrig put into words:
>Judith i went to CCAD.
>majored in fine arts painting
>
>amazing how many people will get completely naked for you if you say you
life." - Bryce
>Courteney
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Marc Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:12 AM
>To: CF-Community
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>
>
>I was an English major, then took my Juris Doctor and worked as an
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From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:58 AM
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Woohoo! Now I don't feel so awkward. What was your medium before you turned
to code? ;o) I now
> then trained horses (10 years, most full-time, part-time up until 3 years
> ago)
Strange that - a few years back I almost quit coding to become a riding
instructor...
Philip Arnold
Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
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you have taken another step toward a fulfilling life." - Bryce
Courteney
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From: Marc Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:12 AM
To: CF-Community
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I was an English major, then took my Juris Doctor and worked
At 06:46 PM 4/8/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 6:09 PM
>
> > But I think that at some point I majored in picking up on
> > men. That IS an art.
>
>Hah. That doesn't hold a candle to trying to fi
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 6:09 PM
> But I think that at some point I majored in picking up on
> men. That IS an art.
Hah. That doesn't hold a candle to trying to figure women out. I've long
since given up on that! Af
At 07:45 PM 4/6/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>No CS geek heremy undergrad degree is Poli Sci (started in Biology,
>moved to CS...which seemed to be too much brain work, then finally ended up
>in Poli Sci. I think my *real* major was oggling the girls and gettin' drunk
>on weekends. What a waste.).
gt;Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:48 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
>
>
>What was your area of specialization?
>
>Anybody here major in music?
Judith Taylor
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I have a degree in Music from the University at Buffalo (SUNY)
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From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 1:48 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
What was your area of specialization?
Anybody here major in music?
Kelly put
What was your area of specialization?
Anybody here major in music?
Kelly put into words:
>Hey Judith I went to the Art Institute of Atlanta and only have an AA.
>Decided to go into
>this career (web development) about 7 years ago and taught myself. But no
>you are
>still a geek just an artistic
Hey Judith I went to the Art Institute of Atlanta and only have an AA.
Decided to go into
this career (web development) about 7 years ago and taught myself. But no
you are
still a geek just an artistic one LOL :)
09:45 AM 4/8/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey! Bachelor of Fine Arts here. Never to
So, an English major who got a law degree (didn't try for the Bar?), became
an environmental consultant (what environment?) then decided to turn code
jockey. Whew! And I thought I took some tortuous routes to get here. ;o)
Marc Garrett put into words:
>Law Degree. Sorry. :-)
>
>Marc
Judith Tay
Law Degree. Sorry. :-)
Marc
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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
> Not f
Law degree
>From: Judith Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
>Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:17:38 -0400
>
>Not familiar with the term 'Juris Doctor'.
>
>??
&g
Not familiar with the term 'Juris Doctor'.
??
Judi
Marc Garrett put into words:
>I was an English major, then took my Juris Doctor and worked as an
>environmental consultant before turning to databases and CF/ASP.
>
>Someday, in a perfect world, I hope to tie it all together. :-)
>
>Marc Garret
That's pretty much how I describe my work. Yes, I have an art degree...now,
my code is my art. As clean and simple as possible - although I'm not a
minimalist.
At the university where I got my degree had no cross-over for fine arts -
graphic design. I fought with the system for over a year b
TED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
> Woohoo! Now I don't feel so awkward.
~~
Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at
h
I did a lot of photography. My major was actually in graphic arts. Talk
about being the red-headed stepchild of the art school. :-/
I agree that writing beautiful code is an art form in itself. Too bad it's
only a select group of people who truly appreciate the simple beauty of it.
Sharon
At
Woohoo! Now I don't feel so awkward. What was your medium before you turned
to code? ;o) I now think of my code as my art, although I have been picking
up a brush more often latelyespecially when a piece of code isn't
behaving and I need to get away to let the problem percolate in my
back-
Hey! Bachelor of Fine Arts here. Never took a computer class in college.
Come to think of it, none of our senior developers studied CS. A big point
in our favor.
Sharon
At 08:03 PM 4/6/2001 -0400, Judith Taylor wrote:
>Man, with all these CS folks around here, I'm startin' to feel like a
>re
No CS geek heremy undergrad degree is Poli Sci (started in Biology,
moved to CS...which seemed to be too much brain work, then finally ended up
in Poli Sci. I think my *real* major was oggling the girls and gettin' drunk
on weekends. What a waste.).
Chris <-- not red-headed, but I *DO* still
Man, with all these CS folks around here, I'm startin' to feel like a
red-headed stepchild.Just because I studied Art, doesn't make me less
of a geek or rather geekettejust means I have a different way of
looking at neat, nifty abstract symbols..
;o)
>lessee.put this symbol ov
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