Matt Drudge posted her publicly made comments using his First
amendment rights. You call it McCarthyism. I don't.
He was doing what most journalists do, (I'm not saying he's a
journalist), a background check of someone making headlines. He found
some interesting quotes and published them.
On 8/19/
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On 8/19/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was DrudgeReport and the First Amendment :)
>
> On 8/19/05, Dana wrote:
>
> > We aren't a Nazi state yet, but the smearing of Cindy
> > Sheehan and of anyone else who opposes the Bushies smells a lot like
> > McCarthyism. We aren't putting our ow
It was DrudgeReport and the First Amendment :)
On 8/19/05, Dana wrote:
> We aren't a Nazi state yet, but the smearing of Cindy
> Sheehan and of anyone else who opposes the Bushies smells a lot like
> McCarthyism. We aren't putting our own citizens into concentration
> camps yet, but we've effecti
thanks, meant to cover that point...
On 8/19/05, Jaysen Van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could be wrong but I don't remember any evidence of Bin Laden
> actually detonating a bomb, pulling the trigger or otherwise firing at
> Americans. So does that mean he is not a terrorist either?
>
>
I could be wrong but I don't remember any evidence of Bin Laden
actually detonating a bomb, pulling the trigger or otherwise firing at
Americans. So does that mean he is not a terrorist either?
Bush hasn't actually dropped a bomb or pulled a trigger on a gun or
fired the main gun of an M1 ta
oh are we talking about a PR question? I am sure that dredging up
these remarks, if true, was a PR move on behalf of Rove and Co. I am
sure that many Fox News viewers would be turned off by them,
absolutely.
As for believing that the United States is in danger of becoming a
fascist state, it's a v
What I am saying is that such opinions represent the political fringe in the
U.S. I'm sure there are people who believe the U.S. is a fascist state and that
Bush is a terrorist- Cindy Sheehan ia apparently one of them. But those beliefs
are way out of the U.S. mainstream, and Bush's opponents in
limitations of the medium.face to face we'd of agreed in 30 seconds :)
> it's ok, we both realized it and made it work anyway. It does seem as
> though we each oversimplified the other's opinion though
>
> Dana
>
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Either side would take full advantage, that's the nature of the beast, isn't it?
>> Robert wrote:
>> I wonder whether the professional political folks who have latched onto her
>
>It is a bit disgusting how the Democratic spin machine is using her -
>the Republicans would do the same, but it's b
mmm, I'm not saying it's so. I'm saying it's not necessarily a
ridiculous opinion. As for whether there really were bad guys in
Fallujah, I don't see you producing any evidence, not even anything as
weak as Al-Jazeera quoting Knight-Ridder
Dana
On 8/19/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
it's ok, we both realized it and made it work anyway. It does seem as
though we each oversimplified the other's opinion though
Dana
On 8/19/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yeah, we're out of sequence, sorry.
>
>
> > tsk, no, I don't. I am quoting and pointing out that there's another
> >
Look, just because he isn't getting up in the morning and saying I
think I'll kill some Iraqi children today, doesn't mean that the
definition doesn't apply. What about reckless disregard?
When the IRA put bombs in pubs frequented by British soldiers, and the
odd barmaid was killed, are you saying
yeah, we're out of sequence, sorry.
> tsk, no, I don't. I am quoting and pointing out that there's another
> point of view. I'm assuming you hadn't seen the post
> with my opinion when you wrote this.
>
> Dana
>
>
>> YOu seem to be equating "bad guy" with "terrorist". There are plenty of
>> ways
I hate gmail instant send on a typo!
I was going to finish with: just because someone believes it does not
make it so.
The people we are fighting in Fallujah are bad people. You know, the
kind of people who fire from the shelter of mosques. The kind of
people who hide weapons and explosives in ho
tsk, no, I don't. I am quoting and pointing out that there's another
point of view. I'm assuming you hadn't seen the post
with my opinion when you wrote this.
Dana
> YOu seem to be equating "bad guy" with "terrorist". There are plenty of ways
> of being bad, or evil, without being a textbook "t
Frankly, that's bullshit.
There are people out there who think we never landed on the moon, that
the world is flat, that they can fly if they only just believe enough.
Just
The baathists in Fallujah are a fact. It was the stronghold for
Saddams bully-boys. The worst of the worst human rights vio
> What do *I* think? I think the military in Iraq is not equipped to
> know who *is* a civilian, and that mistakes are made. Maybe even all
> the time.
Yep. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
>
> I think that the soldiers that are there are dong their best to do a
> job that really can't be done with t
I don't get it? Even if all this is true, how does that make Bush a
terrorist?
Wouldn't it make him an imperialistic military tyrant? That's certainly
bad...but its different than a terrorist.
YOu seem to be equating "bad guy" with "terrorist". There are plenty of ways
of being bad, or evil, w
What do *I* think? I think the military in Iraq is not equipped to
know who *is* a civilian, and that mistakes are made. Maybe even all
the time.
I think that the soldiers that are there are dong their best to do a
job that really can't be done with the resources that are available to
them, that
You mean you rarely agree with me? :)
> Do you think Bush ordered the US military to target civilians and
> other non-military personel in Fallujah?
>
> I don't.
>
> There were casualties amongst the civilian population, but that was
> more in the line of collateral damage than intentional.
>
>
Well, some residents of Fallujah apparently feel otherwise. I realize
that the following is not an objective account, but neither, I submit,
is what we see here. So here is an account with a different bias. I
reiterate that I do not necessarily agree with it, any more than I do
with Fox News.
http
Do you think Bush ordered the US military to target civilians and
other non-military personel in Fallujah?
I don't.
There were casualties amongst the civilian population, but that was
more in the line of collateral damage than intentional.
I agree with Brian (this once) that that is a stretch.
I don't understand how fallujah fits in this context?
Did George Bush detonate a car bomb in fallujah, with the express intent of
killing Iraqi CIVILIANS in order to force an Iraqi government to give into
his demands?
The war in Iraq is a lot of things...but it just doesn't fit the
definit
still playing devil's advocate - please explain Fallujah in this context?
Dana
On 8/19/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A terrorist willfully, intentionally, and knowingly attacks civilians and
> other non-military personnel in an attempt to coerce the governing head of
> that group to relent t
A terrorist willfully, intentionally, and knowingly attacks civilians and
other non-military personnel in an attempt to coerce the governing head of
that group to relent to his/her demands.
Anyone who honestly believes W fits this definition.is way out there.
>I had not seen those statement
I had not seen those statements at the time I asked the question and I
am still not sure of the context; been busy. But hmm, the US *is*
showing disturbing parallels to fascism, you know. Sorry you don't
think that's worthy of debate. As for W the terrorist, I am sure there
are people who see it th
> Robert wrote:
> I wonder whether the professional political folks who have latched onto her
It is a bit disgusting how the Democratic spin machine is using her -
the Republicans would do the same, but it's bothersome nonetheless.
~~~
I came up with that bit myself, but I'll take that as a professional compliment.
I realize my question sounds callous. That is not my intent. I really hope her
mother is OK. It is awful, and an unfortunate coincidence that her mother just
had a stroke. My criticism is not about her but about th
Oh, sorry, the bit about George Bush being the biggest terrorist in the world,
how without the Internet the U.S. would be a fascist state. Those kinds of
statements are not even worthy of serious debate.
> yep on leaving Crawford. But indulge someone who just sat down to the
> internet for the
Where exactly was Carl Rove when her mother had a stroke
On 8/18/05, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> nice bit of Karl Rove's scripting your reciting.
>
> If your mother had a stroke wouldn't you want to be with her? The
> character assassination is beneath you.
>
> larry
~
it does seem as though there is a fair amount of malice in these comments.
On 8/18/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nice bit of Karl Rove's scripting your reciting.
>
> If your mother had a stroke wouldn't you want to be with her? The
> character assassination is beneath you.
>
>
nice bit of Karl Rove's scripting your reciting.
If your mother had a stroke wouldn't you want to be with her? The
character assassination is beneath you.
larry
On 8/18/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apparently her mother had a stroke in California so she is leaving Crawford.
> I
yep on leaving Crawford. But indulge someone who just sat down to the
internet for the first time today. What off-the-map rantings?
Dana
On 8/18/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apparently her mother had a stroke in California so she is leaving Crawford.
> I hope her mother is OK, bu
Apparently her mother had a stroke in California so she is leaving Crawford. I
hope her mother is OK, but I am compelled to ask if her leaving Crawford has
anything to do with the stuff leaking out about her off-the-map rantings in
previous appearances at leftist political rallies?
~~~
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