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-Original Message-
From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Great Op-Ed By Buchanan
i hear walmart has plenty of job openings
On Jan 16, 2008 7:55 PM, Gruss wrote:
> > tBone wrote:
> > Gruss,
i hear walmart has plenty of job openings
On Jan 16, 2008 7:55 PM, Gruss wrote:
> > tBone wrote:
> > Gruss, I am hereby disallowing you from ever claiming to be a
> libertarian
> > again.
> >
>
> Ha, well, I'm bending on principle on this one because I just don't
> think Americans will have the s
> tBone wrote:
> Gruss, I am hereby disallowing you from ever claiming to be a libertarian
> again.
>
Ha, well, I'm bending on principle on this one because I just don't
think Americans will have the spine to watch old people starve to
death because they forgot to save.
That leaves 3 options: SS,
Gruss, I am hereby disallowing you from ever claiming to be a libertarian
again.
That is all, carry on.
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:45 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Great Op-Ed By Buchanan
> gMoney wrote:
>
> gMoney wrote:
> Give us back our money!?!?!?! Are you CRAZY!? We are too stupid to have our
> money back! You keep it!
>
The whole reason we have SS is because letting people to their own
devices didn't work and with the current savings rate being negative,
I'd say we need SS more than ever now.
ZING!
Heh hehi'm still pissed that the only policy idea the Bush admin ever
concocted that was worth a shit, was thoroughly shot down.
Give us back our money!?!?!?! Are you CRAZY!? We are too stupid to have our
money back! You keep it!
G
On Jan 16, 2008 2:05 PM, Robert Munn <[EM
On Jan 16, 2008 12:49 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
> If anyone is a true MBA president, I can tell you from direct
> experience that it's Mitt. It would be like hiring Warren Buffet
> except with management experience. While I don't like his flip-flops
> and his campaign persona, he is a great guy and
Um, George Bush? And he got shot down hard...
On Jan 16, 2008 10:34 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Is there anyone willing to take on SS?
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Having lived through Mitt here in Massachusetts, I think he is missing
the key ingredient to being a good choice: Trust.
He has proven himself not just to be a flip-flopper, but an executive
you just cannot trust to say what he really thinks.
You cannot lead well if you don't know where you are g
Different choices, as Loathe pointed out. Keep in mind also that the
European socialist model is coming apart at the seams as their population,
like ours, ages well beyond previous generations, and childbirth and
immigration fail to keep pace with the need for new taxpayers to fund the
system.
Sti
> Sam wrote:
> I'd trust Mitt or Rudy but don't know their position on it.
>
If anyone is a true MBA president, I can tell you from direct
experience that it's Mitt. It would be like hiring Warren Buffet
except with management experience. While I don't like his flip-flops
and his campaign person
So the Dems want to add socialized health care and do nothing about
SS, because they say there's nothing wrong with it.
The GOP candidates don't want to socialize health care, a plus.
Is there anyone willing to take on SS?
I'd trust Mitt or Rudy but don't know their position on it.
On Jan 16, 2
> tBone wrote:
> F the funding model G
>
> It's illegal, it's against the law without a constitutional amendment, why
> do we need to talk past that issue?
>
:) agreed
The reason is because there are lots of people that think the best way
to solve problems is to throw them at the gov't. Then, o
you left before the GST didn't you?
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community"
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Great Op-Ed By Buchanan
> >How much higher are the taxes in Canada compared t
>A lot.
Now compare how much higher health care premiums are in Canada vs the US. Hey
you might enjoy paying out a lot of extra cash to line the pockets of the
insurance companies but I do not. I'ld rather pay 15% higher taxes than the
equivalent of 25% on health care premiums, and make sure th
>How much higher are the taxes in Canada compared to the US?
>Or Sweden? Or Germany? or Britain?
I cannot say for Sweden, Germany or Britian, but when I moved to the US I
directly compared what I was making back in Canada to a similar job in the US.
While Canadian taxes are higher, when you fac
Seriously with the amount f US debt owned by China we'll all be on the
#otherCurrency# in no time.
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:50 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Great Op-Ed By Buchanan
> RoMunn wrote:
>
F the funding model G
It's illegal, it's against the law without a constitutional amendment, why
do we need to talk past that issue?
-Original Message-
From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:33 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Grea
A lot.
-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:31 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Great Op-Ed By Buchanan
How much higher are the taxes in Canada compared to the US?
Or Sweden? Or Germany? or Britain
> RoMunn wrote:
> They were an individual company, not
> a sovereign government.
Nope, they were a company that threatened an industry, which
threatened the World economy. Put another way, they were one player
who's failure if left to its own devices would destroy the US economy
and so industry p
> Gel wrote:
> How much higher are the taxes in Canada compared to the US?
> Or Sweden? Or Germany? or Britain?
>
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> tBone wrote:
> Because those 8 other nations aren't countries that were founded through
> revolution in response to taxes?
>
The reason we're talking about this is NOT because the funding model
doesn't work in general - it's because it doesn't work when health
care costs are rising exponentially
44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Great Op-Ed By Buchanan
So you pay for reasonable health care in somewhat higher taxes or piss poor
health care to the insurance companies. Some choice.
Given that the US already has the lowest tax rate among the group of 8
industrialized nations I cannot se
cally
mentioned.
If anything it would have to be at state or local level.
Or they'll just legislate over the constitutional limits, like they normally
do.
-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Grea
]> Larry wrote:
> So you pay for reasonable health care in somewhat higher taxes
So we had "universal health care", how would that lower escalating costs?
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It wasn't a counter argument, it was an answer to his question.
On Jan 16, 2008 7:44 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you pay for reasonable health care in somewhat higher taxes or piss
> poor health care to the insurance companies. Some choice.
>
> Given that the US already has th
So you pay for reasonable health care in somewhat higher taxes or piss poor
health care to the insurance companies. Some choice.
Given that the US already has the lowest tax rate among the group of 8
industrialized nations I cannot see how higher taxes is a valid counter
argument.
>Higher taxe
Higher taxes and comparatively small military budgets?
On Jan 16, 2008 3:46 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How come other countries are able to provide universal healthcare
> successfully?
>
--
Sometime between the time you arrive and the time you go,
may lie a reason you were alive
How come other countries are able to provide universal healthcare successfully?
On Jan 15, 2008 8:22 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't especially like his xenophobic stance in regard to the rest of the
> world, but Pat is right on the money with most of this op-ed. The bottom
>
I was thinking exactly of the Trump axiom, I love that line. Our situation
is totally different from that of LTCM. They were an individual company, not
a sovereign government. I don't care what happens to Citi, for example, so
much as I care that the banking industry as a whole stays solvent. Forei
> RoMunn wrote:
> I'm not especially concerned about foreign governments investing money in US
> businesses. As the rest of the world became more prosperous, it was bound to
> happen.
I agree with most of what you said except for this which is the Trump
axiom, if you own the bank a million you're
I don't especially like his xenophobic stance in regard to the rest of the
world, but Pat is right on the money with most of this op-ed. The bottom
line is that we are going to drown in debt if we don't rein in entitlements.
Everyone knows it. Many of the retired people in my neighborhood basically
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