> Billy wrote:
> fund managers continued pushing sub-prime mortgage funds even after they
> knew that those funds were going to tank.
>
Zackly, but why are there even mortgage funds? The answer to that
question is the nexus between Dana's old blind lady and the melt-down.
By separating the lende
It's about race now
How do you prove they 'knew' these funds were going to tank?
2008/6/26 Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The fund managers continued pushing sub-prime mortgage funds even after
>they knew tha
How do you prove they 'knew' these funds were going to tank?
2008/6/26 Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The fund managers continued pushing sub-prime mortgage funds even after they
> knew that those funds were going to tank.
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:58 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: It's about race now
actually I just clicke
> Dana wrote:
> That is the case for some people. Other people were definitely lied to.
>
Certainly, but only in the sense that they were told breaking the law
would be ok or that their sheet metal lean-to was really worth $10B.
The point is, the problem was not lenders selling one thing and givi
LOL i'm not a supporter of bush-o-nomics. I have hated this moron since
before it came fashionable :)
And he totally screwed the budget over which sucks. So why do want to let
barack do the same thing by bailing out
people who goofed.
I'm sure there are people who were defrauded perhaps. Though i
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> actually I just clicked on the last message I read in the thread, so I don't
> mean you specifically. I am glad you are against all subsidies -- this is at
> least a rational position and one I might consider.
>
> I do think you are
That is the case for some people. Other people were definitely lied to.
On 6/26/08, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Cam wrote:
> > So if something is too complicated to understand we should forgive the
> > debt? Cause the tax code is pretty fucking complicated and as far as
> > I know
actually I just clicked on the last message I read in the thread, so I don't
mean you specifically. I am glad you are against all subsidies -- this is at
least a rational position and one I might consider.
I do think you are missing *my* point -- you don't get charged with fraud
because your clien
> Cam wrote:
> So if something is too complicated to understand we should forgive the
> debt? Cause the tax code is pretty fucking complicated and as far as
> I know, idiots who don't pay their taxes get a lead hammer to the
> head. This is no different.
>
All good points, but this really isn't
> Dana wrote:
> realizing that loans carry interest, people. You don't send people to jail
> because the people who signed your contracts didn't read them.
True, but it takes 2 to tango or buyer-beware; whichever you'd like.
The people going to jail are going to jail because they broke the
rules t
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the thing I find interesting in this thread is that everyone complaining
> about keeping to a budget is a supporter of Bush-o-nomics. Which means you
> have no credibilty when you say that other people can't do math.
Not really sur
the thing I find interesting in this thread is that everyone complaining
about keeping to a budget is a supporter of Bush-o-nomics. Which means you
have no credibilty when you say that other people can't do math.
So let's see, it's ok to bail out Exxon, just not elderly near-illiterates
who have b
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea i know the govt is going to bail them out which means no lesson will be
> learned. Well the lesson that will be learned is be a moron the govt will
> make it ok.
Yeah I love hearing "they should do something" (meaning
Yea i know the govt is going to bail them out which means no lesson will be
learned. Well the lesson that will be learned is be a moron the govt will
make it ok.
And bailing them out keeps the companies they can't pay in business. Thats
why i have to buy my house before obama gets elected :)
On 6/
oh he's the best republican, but that's a low bar.
::flees::
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No thats not enough. I've always voted democrat but if Obama can't get
> himself up and have a debate with mccain i can't vote for that.
>
> You can't just sa
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> Hm. I wonder what economic effect the attack on the world trade center had?
> I wonder how much we have to pay out to protect ourselves from those who
> want to do it again? ok, it's not the only answer possible but it is a real
> one.
> Ot
't involve spending it.
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From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:34 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: It's about race now
One of the things Atlanta radio talk show host (and Fairtax book
author) Neal Bortz says all the ti
> Bill wrote:
> I wouldn't really call it predatory lending so much as a stupid person who
> makes a stupid decision.
>
Here's the bizatch of it all: the taxpayers are going to bail everyone out.
* estimates are that we're only 33% through the "correction" so
there's going to be more than BearSte
> Bill wrote:
> No thats not enough.
ANWR (and others) is expected to lower gas prices 3-4 cents 5 years
from now and then only for a short time (less than a decade).
That being said, I'm not opposed it except for it's just a way to make
people think something being done when it's not. The answe
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't really call it predatory lending so much as a stupid person who
> makes a stupid decision.
>
> Yes i could have seen myself falling for it in my past because having credit
> was great you could spend now without
I wouldn't really call it predatory lending so much as a stupid person who
makes a stupid decision.
Yes i could have seen myself falling for it in my past because having credit
was great you could spend now without thinking about tomorrow.
I think this predatory lending has taught a lot of people
No thats not enough. I've always voted democrat but if Obama can't get
himself up and have a debate with mccain i can't vote for that.
You can't just say hope for change and play on the hopes of people and then
ride that into the office.
Hell shrub is a bumbling idiot and even he had debates. So w
Time to drill the anwr.
Robert Munn wrote:
> if they aren't at capacity yet, they are definitely close. it's all a
> question of timing. we need immediate relief and there just isn't capacity
> available for supply relief, so we have to press for demand relief.
> eventually the market will take ca
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if they aren't at capacity yet, they are definitely close. it's all a
> question of timing.
So say the Saudis.
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if they aren't at capacity yet, they are definitely close. it's all a
question of timing. we need immediate relief and there just isn't capacity
available for supply relief, so we have to press for demand relief.
eventually the market will take care of that.
oh btw, i just heard who the biggest oi
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Saudis are bringing online another million barrels a day, which maybe
> gets us through the middle of next year in terms of demand growth, barring a
> significant downward trend in demand.
This also assumes that Saudi A
Predatory lending, while problematic, is not a long-term threat to the
economy. Current gas prices are not the real threat to the economy. We are
within spitting distance of not having enough oil to meet daily demand. Any
significant disruption would be disastrous. Supply disruptions, including
fr
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> if you took all the money in the country and redistributed it
>> equally among everyone
>
> You mean if we elect Obama?
Heh - methinks Obama will be redistributing my money to people who are not me.
-Cameron
bada-bing!
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:20 AM, G Money wrote:
>
> > if you took all the money in the country and redistributed it
> > equally among everyone
>
>
> You mean if we elect Obama?
>
> I kid, I kid.
>
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> if you took all the money in the country and redistributed it
> equally among everyone
You mean if we elect Obama?
I kid, I kid.
--
I don't have pet-peeves
I have full psychotic hatreds
> Billy wrote:
> Predatory lending is just the result of those who paid attention in math
> class ripping off those who did not. Same with rent-to-own, auto pawn,
> payday loans, etc.
>
Those are legitimate services that come in handy and, 40 years ago,
were only available to the wealthy. The con
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Predatory lending is just the result of those who paid attention in math
> class ripping off those who did not. Same with rent-to-own, auto pawn,
> payday loans, etc.
One of the things Atlanta radio talk show host (and Fairta
x27;s about race now
> Dana wrote:
> to predatory lending.
The fact that there can even be "predatory lending" is confirmation of a
failed educational system.
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dana wrote:
>> to predatory lending.
>
> The fact that there can even be "predatory lending" is confirmation of
> a failed educational system.
Just yesterday I bought a t-shirt and all I got was a stinkin t-shirt!
Predator
> Dana wrote:
> to predatory lending.
The fact that there can even be "predatory lending" is confirmation of
a failed educational system.
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it is AN economic issue but not the most important one. A possible terrorist
attack is way outweighed by people who can't buy groceries on get to work
because of rising gas prices, and are on the verge of losign their homes due
to predatory lending.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Michael Dinowit
Hm. I wonder what economic effect the attack on the world trade center had?
I wonder how much we have to pay out to protect ourselves from those who
want to do it again? ok, it's not the only answer possible but it is a real
one.
Other real ones include the rising cost of importing food. The need t
> Cam wrote:
> his race being used against him in the campaign. There is really no
> other reason to bring that up other than Obama playing the race card.
>
H... or it could be that Fox News has been busy painting Michelle
Obama as a Black Panther:
* "Michelle Obama is still angry"
* "Michel
yeah I heard Mr Black was kind of hoping for a terrorist attack. And that
McCain, asked about the dingle greatest *economic* threat facing the
country, said it was radical Islamism.
Good job of sticking to the issues there!
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Yes, that is enough.
Thanks to George W. Bush.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But he's got people fired up about the political process and he has hope
> for
> change. Isn't that enough?
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROT
that certainly is what he is hoping for...
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Michael D wrote:
> But he's got people fired up about the political process and he has hope
> for
> change. Isn't that enough?
>
>
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But he's got people fired up about the political process and he has hope for
change. Isn't that enough?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> McCain is not a guy to play Clinton-style dirtbag politics. He will attack
> Obama on the issues from now until Electio
McCain is not a guy to play Clinton-style dirtbag politics. He will attack
Obama on the issues from now until Election Day.
For his part, Obama realizes that he is going to get chewed up and spit out
in a straight fight with McCain over the issues, hence his refusal to agree
to a series of town ha
Yeah I found that disappointing too. Obama is young and, relatively
speaking, inexperienced. Those things I can see the republican party
using against him. I cannot however - under any circumstances - see
his race being used against him in the campaign. There is really no
other reason to bring
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From: sam morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:39 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: It's about race now
"We know wh
"We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to
make you afraid. They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and
inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"
-BHO Jr
Lt. Col Allen West:
My advice to Senator Obama is to run as
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