Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-14 Thread GMoney
It's not the rapture until we see this: On Armageddon, at 12:00am, sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Larry. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Shocked! I tell you Simply Shocked! > > This day should be a national holiday. Scott agrees. What is this > universe com

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Shocked! I tell you Simply Shocked! This day should be a national holiday. Scott agrees. What is this universe coming to. The apocalypse is near! 2012 is true its the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Its not amazing. At all

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Its not amazing. At all. There are billions of galaxies in the universe. Each galaxy containing billions of stars. Each star having who knows how many planets revolving around it. Its simply a game of odds. With that many possibilities, at least one planet (and in my opinion, not the only one) w

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-12 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:36 AM, PT wrote: > No. I don't think I have it backwards. I am not saying that it's > amazing that everything is tailor made for us. I am saying that it is > amazing that there is life at all. If anything in that list didn't > exist, or things didn't happen the exac

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-12 Thread PT
No. I don't think I have it backwards. I am not saying that it's amazing that everything is tailor made for us. I am saying that it is amazing that there is life at all. If anything in that list didn't exist, or things didn't happen the exact way they did in the right order, then not only

RE: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Eric Roberts
You probably won't find petroleum, but it could have a lot of mineral wealth. -Original Message- From: PT [mailto:cft...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Messed up priorities >> Not sure if the event they think created the mo

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, PT wrote: > I think the conditions are so specific, that is about what it would > take. Sure, there has to be other life out there, but I think it is > rarer than it might seem it should be. It will be interesting to see if the Drake Equation (http://bit.ly/LR

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Solar power on an unimaginative scale. Although frankly it may be a good thing, if things like the really dirty industries etc could be moved off the earth. However for industrialization the asteroid belt is much better. Really cheap resources, and relatively cheap transportation to market. Thing

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You guys are looking at it back aspwards. We fit these circumstances so well because we evolved with them in effect. It would have been amazing if they were different, but its the environment we are in. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, PT wrote: > > I think the conditions are so specific, that i

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Maureen
They'll find something up there that they can exploit. Oil is hardly their only product. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > given that crude oil is organic plant material that's been fossilized > it would be quite the thing if petroleum is found on the moon. > > On Mon,

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread PT
I think the conditions are so specific, that is about what it would take. Sure, there has to be other life out there, but I think it is rarer than it might seem it should be. On 6/11/2012 1:59 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, PT wrote: > >> It really amazes me

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, PT wrote: > It really amazes me the number of things that had to go exactly right > to allow life to form on Earth. An infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters. There are lots of stars out there. -Cameron ... ~~

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No a better way of looking at it is that we are perfectly adapted to live in the current conditions of earth. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM, PT wrote: > >>> Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plant life. >> > > Yes.  The Earth was probably not solidified at the time. >

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
There are some good theories that suggest that the moon was a part of earth once, but that was well before the carboniferous age. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> given that crude oil is organic plant material that

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread PT
It really amazes me the number of things that had to go exactly right to allow life to form on Earth. First the universe exists. Our star is just the right size and temperature. Earth is just the right distance from it. The moon exists and is just the right size and has just the right orbit. The

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread PT
>> Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plant life. > Yes. The Earth was probably not solidified at the time. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/d

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I'm fairly certain it would have predated life. Not sure either though. > Quick search yielded this: How old is the Moon? Almost the entire Solar System formed 4.6 billion years ago, when the solar nebula collapsed. But astronomers

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > Wasn't the moon once part of earth? > That is one theory. I think it's gained more support recently. > Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plant life. I'm fairly certain it would have predated life. Not sure either tho

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > given that crude oil is organic plant material that's been fossilized > it would be quite the thing if petroleum is found on the moon. > Wasn't the moon once part of earth? Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plan

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
given that crude oil is organic plant material that's been fossilized it would be quite the thing if petroleum is found on the moon. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I cannot count the times I have had to explain some clueless fool that > money spent by NASA is not put in the

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Maureen
I cannot count the times I have had to explain some clueless fool that money spent by NASA is not put in the rocket and blasted into space. It is spent right here on earth, providing jobs and as you stated, a very good return on investment in terms of the discoveries and inventions. My only objec

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Exactly and report after report has shown that for every dollar spent on NASA there's been a $10 to $20 return. If all one can see are the dollar signs involved, you have to admit that's a pretty good return on investment. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:38 PM, PT wrote: > > Well, the new Hubble is al

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-09 Thread Dana
please do not put words in my mouth, Larry. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Dana you may think its OK for us to permanently live with cranial > recto-inversion I do not. The possibilities of two nearly identical > satellites operating at the same time opens the possibil

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-09 Thread PT
Well, the new Hubble is already under construction. This would be an unplanned addition. The NASA folks said if they got both, they could use one to look at wide area views of the universe and the other to really zoom in on something interesting when they find it. I believe the term ideal w

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Dana you may think its OK for us to permanently live with cranial recto-inversion I do not. The possibilities of two nearly identical satellites operating at the same time opens the possibility for instance of a system with an aperture the size of the earth effectively. We've been good at detectin

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-09 Thread Dana
whatever. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > A couple of dollars? I'd kick in a couple of hundred, its that important. > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Dana wrote: > > > > I'd kick in a couple bucks for that. > > > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Maureen wrote: > >

Re: U.S. Bankruptcy - a rambling rant (Re: Messed up priorities)

2012-06-08 Thread Maureen
I do. 1) When presented with the need to spend taxpayer's money, always ask why. Amtrak needs a bail-out? Why? If the management currently in place cannot function under the existing budget and revenue, find out why. Don't just throw money at it. 2) When a bid is submitted, require the vendo

U.S. Bankruptcy - a rambling rant (Re: Messed up priorities)

2012-06-08 Thread PT
Speaking of a billion here and a billion there, how long do you think it will be before the U.S. starts defaulting on its debts? It's either that, or keep on keeping on until we end up in a situation similar to Greece. If the government was a business, it would have been forced to declare b

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
"it costs about 5 cents to immunize a kid. " Cost who 5 cents? The drug company? Sure. Those paying for it. No way. A couple of hundred at least. Probably a lot more. J - A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment. - Willis Player ~~

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A couple of dollars? I'd kick in a couple of hundred, its that important. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Dana wrote: > > I'd kick in a couple bucks for that. > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> NASA should do a kickstarter for this.  I bet they'd fund it in record >> ti

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-08 Thread Dana
I'd kick in a couple bucks for that. On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Maureen wrote: > > NASA should do a kickstarter for this. I bet they'd fund it in record > time. > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM, PT wrote: > > > > It is really sad that NASA does not have the 1.3 billion funding needed >

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-08 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Maureen wrote: > NASA should do a kickstarter for this. I bet they'd fund it in record > time. > Maybe we should start a kickstarter for the Build The Enterprise Project :-) http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-07 Thread Maureen
NASA should do a kickstarter for this. I bet they'd fund it in record time. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM, PT wrote: > > It is really sad that NASA does not have the 1.3 billion funding needed > to complete their new telescope project that would help explain what > dark matter is, among other

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-07 Thread Sam
Take it from this pile: http://tinyurl.com/cqg699w . On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:27 PM, PT wrote: > > It is really sad that NASA does not have the 1.3 billion funding needed > to complete their new telescope project that would help explain what > dark matter is, among other things. > > The way th

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Old comparison, it costs about 5 cents to immunize a kid. It costs a couple of hundred to kill him. Guess which the government is more likely to focus its money on. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:27 PM, PT wrote: > > It is really sad that NASA does not have the 1.3 billion funding needed > to complete

Messed up priorities

2012-06-07 Thread PT
It is really sad that NASA does not have the 1.3 billion funding needed to complete their new telescope project that would help explain what dark matter is, among other things. The way the government spends money, 1.3 billion is nothing for a project of such potential scientific importance. Th