Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jon Austin > > Which part of the circut is ATM? I know that in Australia, you can > train to PPPoA (for bridged connections) or PPPoE for a routed > connection. Depending on the provider and what type of sessions they > will terminate. > > If, as an ISP, you purchase a Layer 2 & 3 service from T

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-03 Thread Jon Austin
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:14:54 -0400, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that is an intrinsic limitation of ADSL. It gets a bit better with ADSL2+ > (or a lot worse with VDSL), but there is little we can do about the physics. Which part of the circut is ATM? I know that in Australia

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-03 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jon Austin wrote: > > In Australia, the DSL infastructure (owned by Telstra) provides a > maximum of 1500/256 (down/up). Only now, you can get upto 6MB through > specific providers (because they have deployed their own DSLAM's) and > you need to be pretty close to the exchange (2-3 mile) to get th

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-03 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Gel . wrote: > > We get 256KiloBITS per second for 70US a month! And we have throughput > problems! I never reach a full 256K. It lingers around 200 to 220. That is better then to be expected. DSL is based on ATM and ATM works with 53 byte cells with 48 bytes payload. Throw in Ethernet frames a

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Dana
Maybe I can. The phone system in New Mexico is notorious for phone lines run along the top of fences, which are frequently blown over in 75mph winds or trampled by cattle. DSL is simply unavailable in large parts of the state, Albuqurque being one of the exceptions. In fact, in many rural areas a d

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Gel .
Umm...NONE of you can beat Trinidad! We have the most HORRIBLE telecommunications infrastructure run by a national provider that has an iron clad monopoly on the entire market. We get 256KiloBITS per second for 70US a month! And we have throughput problems! I never reach a full 256K. It lingers

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Jon Austin
Don't YOU rub it in. In Australia, the DSL infastructure (owned by Telstra) provides a maximum of 1500/256 (down/up). Only now, you can get upto 6MB through specific providers (because they have deployed their own DSLAM's) and you need to be pretty close to the exchange (2-3 mile) to get those fa

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Charlie Griefer
urate my current 3Mps download > pipe... it doesn't seem to me that going to 6 will offer all that much. > > Jim Davis > > > -Original Message- > > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:45 PM > > To

RE: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Jim Davis
day, February 02, 2005 3:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: New DSL w00t > > i've got comcast here in Jax...right now it's 3 MB...haven't heard > they were going to up it to 4. in fact, when i ordered it (only about > 3 weeks ago), they gave me a choice of 3

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Charlie Griefer
> -Original Message- > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:30 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: New DSL w00t > > > > I switched, and it was a purely financial decision. 26.99 vs 45.99 each > > mont

RE: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Jim Davis
vis > -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: New DSL w00t > > I switched, and it was a purely financial decision. 26.99 vs 45.99 each > monththat's quite a differ

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Jim Campbell
I'm unfortunately at 1.5/768 DSL right now. In my neck of the woods, we have a wireless internet provider, but I wasn't able to get a decent signal. If it had come through, it would have been $60/month for 10mbps synchronous, and that included VOIP service with a free ATA, all the usual add-o

RE: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Nick McClure
There are places in the US where you can get 10Mb, just not around here. > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:31 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: New DSL w00t > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:28:4

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread G
I switched, and it was a purely financial decision. 26.99 vs 45.99 each monththat's quite a difference over the life of the service. > nice. > sick of 45 bucks for cable. > may have to switch soon > > ~| Purchase Captiva

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:28:45 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stop rubbing it in. Here in the US, broadband generally is 2-3mb and > that costs $40-$50. I should clarify. That's the fastest broadband speed available to most users. Plenty have less than that. 768kbps to 1.5mb is pr

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:29:52 -0400, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Starting to offer 3 Mbps? There must be something in the "Small town" thread > about that. I think nationwide you can get 8 Mbps everywhere in the > Netherlands, and even then I am jealous of Italy: > http://abbon

RE: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Nick McClure
tes to 4Mbit, so the phone company had to bring theirs up a bit too. > -Original Message- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:30 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: New DSL w00t > > Nick McClure wrote: >

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Ben Doom
He lives in the nearest city to my small-town existence. This should give you an idea about how much I like where I live. --Ben Jochem van Dieten wrote: > Nick McClure wrote: > >>Looks like the phone company in my area is starting to offer 3MB dsl, and >>my price is only gonna be 19.99 a month

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Paul Ihrig
nice. sick of 45 bucks for cable. may have to switch soon ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.hous

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Howie Hamlin
Warp factor 3, Mr. Sulu... --- On Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:50 AM, Nick McClure scribed: --- > > Looks like the phone company in my area is starting to offer 3MB dsl, > and my price is only gonna be 19.99 a month! > > > > Nick is happy! > > > > > > > > ~~

Re: New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Nick McClure wrote: > Looks like the phone company in my area is starting to offer 3MB dsl, and > my price is only gonna be 19.99 a month! Starting to offer 3 Mbps? There must be something in the "Small town" thread about that. I think nationwide you can get 8 Mbps everywhere in the Netherlands,

New DSL w00t

2005-02-02 Thread Nick McClure
Looks like the phone company in my area is starting to offer 3MB dsl, and my price is only gonna be 19.99 a month! Nick is happy! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100