On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Medic wrote:
> > This is a start: (Don't mind the site name. *rolls eyes*)
> >
> >
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/cell-phones-changing-the-world-for-good-and-bad-and-how-we-can-use-them.php
Speaking of the Post Office.
Post office suspends retirement contributions
Excerpt:
The financially troubled Postal Service is suspending its contributions to
its employees' pension fund.
The agency said Wednesday it is acting to conserve cash as it continues to
lose money. The post office was
I think he has been hanging out with Jerry and Sam too much...
-Original Message-
From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 07:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Postal workers locked out
How is you thinking I threatened you equate to you bullying me?
That
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Medic wrote:
>> How is you thinking I threatened you equate to you bullying me?
>> That doesn't even make sense.
>
> If you wish to continue this conversation, look me up at MAX. I will
> be more than
>I'm done with this thread.
hit and run huh?
cheers mate. ciao.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Medic wrote:
> > How is you thinking I threatened you equate to you bullying me?
> > That doesn't even make sense.
>
> If you wish to
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Casey Dougall
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Medic wrote:
>>
>> My mistake.
>>
>> I guess I misunderstood this:
>>
Speaking of toothpicks. what makes wood such a bad use for a phone
book? We've bin building houses and burning fires with it for eons..
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Medic wrote:
> How is you thinking I threatened you equate to you bullying me?
> That doesn't even make sense.
If you wish to continue this conversation, look me up at MAX. I will
be more than happy to have it in person.
Aside from that, I'm done with this thre
How is you thinking I threatened you equate to you bullying me?
That doesn't even make sense.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Medic wrote:
> > A threat? What do you need to be smoking to consider a question such as
> that
> > a thr
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Medic wrote:
> A threat? What do you need to be smoking to consider a question such as that
> a threat? You seem to have no connection to what you say. That seems
> slightly schizophrenic.
Oh - I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bully you after you mouthed off...
-Came
A threat? What do you need to be smoking to consider a question such as that
a threat? You seem to have no connection to what you say. That seems
slightly schizophrenic.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Medic wrote:
> > I responded
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> My mistake.
>
> I guess I misunderstood this:
>
> "If you consider all of the things a cell phone enables and replaces beyond
> just the phone book, I think the cell phone wins every time."
>
No.. The toothpick wins!
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Medic wrote:
> I responded in kind to insults mate.
>
> "M: Blah fucking blah"
>
> By any chance are you the type that mouths off, gets knocked out, then
> wonders why he was "bullied?"
I might consider that a threat if everything you said didn't have a
British a
I responded in kind to insults mate.
"M: Blah fucking blah"
By any chance are you the type that mouths off, gets knocked out, then
wonders why he was "bullied?"
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Medic wrote:
> > That's fairly close
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Medic wrote:
> That's fairly close. Expect you forgot the part where you pull your head out
> of your arse just long enough to talk out of it.
Name calling is the part where, where I trying to make an argument, I
would know I'd won.
Since I was not, I have to as
"Or, you can make caveman chairs out of them."
Or use them as door stops.
"Ok. So this then... 'Old people are fucking up our environment.'"
And our health care. According to President Barack Obamas regulatory czar,
Cass Sunstein.
As for impact on the environment, I'd say phone book are m
That's fairly close. Expect you forgot the part where you pull your head out
of your arse just long enough to talk out of it.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Medic wrote:
> > Unless I've misread what I wrote, I only claimed one. I
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Medic wrote:
> Unless I've misread what I wrote, I only claimed one. I also pointed out
> that your stance wasn't simply that cell phones replace a lot of things, it
> was also that somehow elderly are destroying our environment. I'm just
> trying to hold you to t
Unless I've misread what I wrote, I only claimed one. I also pointed out
that your stance wasn't simply that cell phones replace a lot of things, it
was also that somehow elderly are destroying our environment. I'm just
trying to hold you to the shit you talk mate.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:41 P
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Medic wrote:
> Ok. So this then... "Old people are fucking up our environment."
Haven't we already covered that? How many points are you going to
claim were my "original argument"?
-Cameron
...
~
Ok. So this then... "Old people are fucking up our environment."
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Medic wrote:
> > I guess I misunderstood this:
> >
> > "If you consider all of the things a cell phone enables and replaces
> beyond
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Medic wrote:
> I guess I misunderstood this:
>
> "If you consider all of the things a cell phone enables and replaces beyond
> just the phone book, I think the cell phone wins every time."
As in, the cell phone has many uses beyond "looking up a phone
number". P
My mistake.
I guess I misunderstood this:
"If you consider all of the things a cell phone enables and replaces beyond
just the phone book, I think the cell phone wins every time."
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Medic wrote:
> >
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Medic wrote:
> I'm not really sure what your point is. If the original point that cell
> phones have less impact than phone books on the environment
Actually, my original point was that the postal service and phone
books are both outdated and destined to become o
I'm not really sure what your point is. If the original point that cell
phones have less impact than phone books on the environment is still what
we're discussing, then I'd say again it's false. There's *more*
transport necessary for cell phones, as they all come from overseas
manufacturing. Worse
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Sam wrote:
> It's a good thing they make books otherwise these dead trees would be
> in the landfill.
Now THAT was a funny comment.
-Cameron
...
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
ht
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Medic wrote:
> That's a lot of trees. Good thing they are a renewable resource.
http://www.projectevergreen.com/why-green-matters/environmental-benefits/
"One tree can remove 26 pounds of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
annually, equaling 11,000 miles of car e
That's a lot of trees. Good thing they are a renewable resource.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Casey Dougall
> wrote:
> > It takes 75,000 trees to print a Sunday Edition of the New York Times
>
> That.s 3.9M trees annually.
>
> ht
It's a good thing they make books otherwise these dead trees would be
in the landfill.
.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Casey Dougall
> wrote:
>> It takes 75,000 trees to print a Sunday Edition of the New York Times
>
> That.s 3.9
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Casey Dougall
wrote:
> It takes 75,000 trees to print a Sunday Edition of the New York Times
That.s 3.9M trees annually.
http://blog.whitepages.com/2009/08/13/ban-the-white-pages-phone-book/
"WhitePages estimates that 5M trees need to be harvested each year to
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Those 5 people will be supplied with stone tables with the number 411
> etched on them."
>
> Gonna make the recycling bin pretty heavy when the new version comes out the
> next year.
>
> J
It takes 75,000 trees to print a Sunday Edition
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Medic wrote:
> What's to argue about? You admit you talked out your bum, and I'm satisfied
> with that.
Isn't that the theme of this list?
-Cameron
...
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> "Those 5 people will be supplied with stone tables with the number 411
> etched on them."
>
> Gonna make the recycling bin pretty heavy when the new version comes out the
> next year.
Or, you can make caveman chairs out of them.
-Cameron
.
"Those 5 people will be supplied with stone tables with the number 411
etched on them."
Gonna make the recycling bin pretty heavy when the new version comes out the
next year.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. -
Henry Kissinger
Politicians are peop
What's to argue about? You admit you talked out your bum, and I'm satisfied
with that.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Medic wrote:
> > Right... but you said old people are destroying our environment. I don't
> see
> > how you dr
Obviously stone tablets will be placed on the stone tables.
Damn autocorrect...
-Cameron
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>> What if chronically challenged people are using phone books made from
>> recycled mater
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> What if chronically challenged people are using phone books made from
> recycled material?
Those 5 people will be supplied with stone tables with the number 411
etched on them.
-Cameron
...
~~~
What if chronically challenged people are using phone books made from
recycled material?
J
-
Liberalism, austere in political trifles, has learned ever more artfully to
unite a constant protest against the government with a constant submission
to it. - Alexander Herzen
~~~
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Medic wrote:
> Right... but you said old people are destroying our environment. I don't see
> how you draw a correlation between an unwillingness to adapt and destroying
> the environment.
It really was an off the cuff remark, since old people are the primary
us
Right... but you said old people are destroying our environment. I don't see
how you draw a correlation between an unwillingness to adapt and destroying
the environment.
You are right though... people on this list really will say anything.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Cameron Childress wro
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Medic wrote:
> My argument was simply that it's foolhardy to say that old people are
> destroying our environment because they use phone books, when it's new
> technology manufacturing that has a much larger negative impact on the
> environment. Further to that,
My argument was simply that it's foolhardy to say that old people are
destroying our environment because they use phone books, when it's new
technology manufacturing that has a much larger negative impact on the
environment. Further to that, it's our acceptance of
planned obsolescence and disposab
Excused.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> Excuse my poor grammar. I was on the road all day yesterday and am
> just now getting my first cup of coffee...
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Childress
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:48
Excuse my poor grammar. I was on the road all day yesterday and am
just now getting my first cup of coffee...
-Cameron
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Medic wrote:
>> This is a start: (Don't mind the site name. *rolls eyes*)
>>
>>
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Medic wrote:
> This is a start: (Don't mind the site name. *rolls eyes*)
>
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/cell-phones-changing-the-world-for-good-and-bad-and-how-we-can-use-them.php
Sure, some data on one side of the argument, not both. Which I don't
This is a start: (Don't mind the site name. *rolls eyes*)
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/cell-phones-changing-the-world-for-good-and-bad-and-how-we-can-use-them.php
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
> Surely you don't really believe that.
I believe it is possible. Without data neither of us will win this argument.
..and don't call me Shirley.
-Cameron
...
~|
Order t
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> Like I said, they may really want a five day a week. If it is a scare
> tactic, my guess would be that it is aimed at those who don't think they can
> live without mail 6 days per week and at the employees who will lose hours.
> Only guesses
Surely you don't really believe that.
On 2011-06-17, at 4:43 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Medic wrote:
>> Yeah... because somehow the pulp and paper industry is worse for the
>> environment then the microchip manufacturing industry. It's the young
>> pe
"To scare who?"
Like I said, they may really want a five day a week. If it is a scare
tactic, my guess would be that it is aimed at those who don't think they can
live without mail 6 days per week and at the employees who will lose hours.
Only guesses though.
J
-
The American Republic will end
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> I don't know if they really want to or if it is a scare tactic to
> get more money.
To scare who? They should be careful what they wish for.
-Cameron
..
~|
Order the Ado
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:01 PM, PT wrote:
> I am all for MWF. I can't think of anything so urgent that getting a
> message through every other day would be a problem for the consumer.
MWF should be more than enough.
-Cameron
..
~~~
"I am all for MWF. "
I could deal with this as well.
"I suppose they could keep the sorting going as frequently as needed and
they could sub out the air to UPS and FedEx more than they already do. I am
not sure how it would affect the carriers though. Reduced pay, but let them
keep their benef
I am all for MWF. I can't think of anything so urgent that getting a
message through every other day would be a problem for the consumer.
Now, it might be a logistical nightmare for the USPS. Sorting could get
backed up and air transportation schedules would need an overhaul. I
suppose they
"I think the mail could be delivered once or twice a week with very little
real impact. "
Over the last several years, this issue has come up occasionally. The Post
Office says that it needs to cut back to five days per week in order to save
money. I don't know if they really want to or if it
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> Private postal service existed for years in the US and did a good job. At
> one point during the first half of the 19th century, 2/3 or more of mail was
> delivered by private services. They were cheaper, more efficient, and
> faster (http
"Our local shelters for battered women collect phones as well. They will
take anything. They give them to the women who don't have them so they can
call for help if they need to. I am sure a lot of places have programs like
this."
We have similar programs here in NC.
J
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Ninety percent of p
Our local shelters for battered women collect phones as well. They will
take anything. They give them to the women who don't have them so they
can call for help if they need to. I am sure a lot of places have
programs like this.
On 6/18/2011 5:32 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
>
> Some communities
our compost bin. I have been composting for about 10 years.
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:21 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Postal workers locked out
We have a huge recycle bin divided in half - one side for paper - one
"The writing is on the wall for the eventual elimination of traditional
government run Postal Service."
Private postal service existed for years in the US and did a good job. At
one point during the first half of the 19th century, 2/3 or more of mail was
delivered by private services. They were
We have a huge recycle bin divided in half - one side for paper - one
side for plastics and glass. Also, a huge green container for yard
waste and a smaller one that sits under the sink for compost. All
furnished by the county, which more than covers the cost of the
program by selling the recycla
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Medic wrote:
> It's the young
> people, with an outlook on life that everything is disposable, that are
> fucking up the environment.
>
>
Disposable products are made so by design. It is up to us, the voters, to
prevent badly made throw away goods from being b
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Medic wrote:
> Yeah... because somehow the pulp and paper industry is worse for the
> environment then the microchip manufacturing industry. It's the young
> people, with an outlook on life that everything is disposable, that are
> fucking up the environment. I'm
> Not sure where you are getting that. Each generation seems more cognizant of
> their environmental foot print than the one before it. We're recycling more
> today than we were yesterday, and will be more tomorrow than we are today.
> Kids learn in pre school and kindergarten to put their stuff i
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Medic wrote:
>
> >
> > Old people are fucking up our environment.
> >
>
> Yeah... because somehow the pulp and paper industry is worse for the
> environment then the microchip manufacturing industry. It's the young
> people, with an outlook on life that everythi
>
> Old people are fucking up our environment.
>
Yeah... because somehow the pulp and paper industry is worse for the
environment then the microchip manufacturing industry. It's the young
people, with an outlook on life that everything is disposable, that are
fucking up the environment. I'm prett
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Maureen wrote:
> In fact, the only
> thing I've found useful in a phone book in years is a section in the
> local book on how to recycle items.
>
Recycling here is great, they give you a recycle container the same
huge size as the trash bin. No more sorting shi
I am one old person who is thrilled with that ruling. I hate all the
stupid phone books delivered out here. I must get 10 or more a year,
all of which go promptly into the recycle bin. In fact, the only
thing I've found useful in a phone book in years is a section in the
local book on how to re
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
> Old people use this stuff.
Old people are fucking up our environment.
California Stops Automatic Delivery of the Phone Book
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/15/idUS85259546620110615
"The decision to go digital with residential listin
Old people use this stuff.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> The writing is on the wall for the eventual elimination of traditional
> government run Postal Service.
>
> Also, why does the Yellow Pages still exist?
>
~~
For the fireplace?
Sometime I get five a year.
.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>> Postal workers locked out
>
> The writing is on the wall for the eventual elimination of traditional
>
Not everyone has internet?
Advertising?
*shrug*
I still use my phone book. When I am looking for something new, I do
read the ads.
On 6/16/2011 5:46 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> Also, why does the Yellow Pages still exist?
>
> -Cameron
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> Postal workers locked out
The writing is on the wall for the eventual elimination of traditional
government run Postal Service.
Also, why does the Yellow Pages still exist?
-Came
Yawwn! happens each and every time there are contract negotiations. The
relationship between Canada Post and its workers is so bad that this is typical.
>Postal workers locked out
>
>Excerpt:
>
>OTTAWA - Canada Post says it was forced to shut down operations, locking out
&
Postal workers locked out
Excerpt:
OTTAWA - Canada Post says it was forced to shut down operations, locking out
striking postal workers nationwide.
The lockout started making the rounds in Twitter posts late Tuesday night by
members of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers.
"Canada Pos
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