RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
-   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:40 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.   I think you need a search/replace:   where = were   excepted = accepted   If the two above aren't true, the

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Read up on how American POW's were treated before making such a statement.   -Original Message-   From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:27 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.   You

Re: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
I think you need a search/replace: where = were excepted = accepted If the two above aren't true, then I'm thoroughly baffled. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Andy Ousterhout" > Gel, > The question remains, do POW's have the same rights as others?  In a > traditional war, "soldiers

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gel, The question remains, do POW's have the same rights as others?  In a traditional war, "soldiers" where clearly defined by their uniforms.  Spies where soldiers out of uniform.  Civilians where everyone else.  Very simplistic, but useful for this discussion.  It was well excepted that captured

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Lyons, Larry
When you're good, you're expected to exceed the common. larry > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

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2004-04-20 Thread Heald, Tim
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. If I remember right (and I've been proven wrong about just recalling things more than once) there was some debate about that one too, apparently one o

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2004-04-20 Thread Lyons, Larry
real war crimes court. larry > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:24 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > > Not in plain clothes it doesn&#x

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Heald, Tim
their being in the weirmacht should have accorded them POW status. larry > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:42 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. >

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.   -Original Message-   From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:27 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to

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2004-04-20 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Raymond Camden wrote: > I wasn't speaking about once case, but about Nazi, German soldiers in > general. Would it be fair to say that, in general, the Germans were given > POW status, and the high commanders were given trials at Nuremburg(forgive > the spelling, to busy to look it up). Yes. And wi

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Marwan Saidi
Thank you John, for being the "cooler head" that needed to prevail here.. -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:08 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. it'

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2004-04-20 Thread Adam Reynolds
lol   -Original Message-   From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: 20 April 2004 14:46   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.   Can you also retract the comment on the idiot comment.  It's insulting to i

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2004-04-20 Thread John Stanley
- > From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:27 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > > You know, after thinking about it, how is this different than > the POW that w

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2004-04-20 Thread Lyons, Larry
sday, April 20, 2004 9:52 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > > I started. >   > Sorry guys.  Just can't believe that this comparison can even be made. > > -- > Timothy Heald > Web Portfolio Manage

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2004-04-20 Thread Raymond Camden
- > From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:55 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > Ray, > > The case in which the German saboteurs were condemned to > death is very

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Lyons, Larry
weirmacht should have accorded them POW status. larry > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:42 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > > I

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2004-04-20 Thread Heald, Tim
bject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. Adam, I don't think that personal insult is called for. larry > -Original Message- > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subjec

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread John Stanley
which by the way is fine with me. -Original Message- From: John Stanley Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:53 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. >> but didn't we give the Nazis a fair trial not a

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2004-04-20 Thread John Stanley
m [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >   Sent: 20 April 2004 14:29 >   To: CF-Community >   Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > >   We're beating and torturing people?  Killing prisoners? > > >   How dare you compare the one to the other.  We p

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2004-04-20 Thread Lyons, Larry
Adam, I don't think that personal insult is called for. larry > -Original Message- > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

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2004-04-20 Thread brobborb
Can you also retract the comment on the idiot comment.  It's insulting to idiots!!!   - Original Message -   From: Adam Reynolds   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:32 AM   Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.   I retract the

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2004-04-20 Thread Lyons, Larry
TECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:27 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > > You know, after thinking about it, how is this different than > the POW that were held in Vietnam? >   > Isn't

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2004-04-20 Thread Angel Stewart
They are comparing the act of holding the people prisoner indefinitely with no legal representation. And there have been several reports of prisoner abuse in Guantanamo bay. Two men that were released spoke extensively about the abuses they saw in numerous press conferences. Do you honestly thin

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Adam Reynolds
I retract the idiot comment. Tim calling somebody a retard isn't nice and is insulting to the mentally handicapped. Adam [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-04-20 Thread Raymond Camden
TED] >   Sent: 20 April 2004 14:29 >   To: CF-Community >   Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. > > >   We're beating and torturing people?  Killing prisoners? > > >   How dare you compare the one to the other.  We provide >

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2004-04-20 Thread Angel Stewart
Yuck. This post got totally messed up :-) "After U.S. forces attacked al-Qaeda and its Taliban protectors in October 2001, thousands of prisoners were swept up amid the fighting across Afghanistan More than two years later, nearly 600 captives remain jailed in a military prison built at Guantana

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Angel Stewart
Wow. Now that's a cool comparison. Comparing the United States actions, to those of the Vietnamese. That was the point of the article btw. That America, so proud of its democracy , transparency and notions of fairness and justice can now be compared to communist countries. -Gel -Origi

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Adam Reynolds
, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: 20 April 2004 14:29   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.   We're beating and torturing people?  Killing prisoners?   How dare you compare the one to the other.  We provide health care, religious services and

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Marwan Saidi
: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:29 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. We're beating and torturing people?  Killing prisoners? How dare you compare the one to the other.  We provide health care, religious services and food and shelter.  We do not

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Heald, Tim
ified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. You know, after thinking about it, how is this diff

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2004-04-20 Thread Marwan Saidi
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:27 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. You know, after thinking about it, how is this different than the POW that were held in Vietnam? Isn't American doing the same thing that the

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
You know, after thinking about it, how is this different than the POW that were held in Vietnam? Isn't American doing the same thing that the Vietnamese did? -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:22 AM To: CF-Community Subject:

RE: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court.

2004-04-20 Thread Marwan Saidi
Yeah, they were covering this quite a bit this morning on NPR. Very interesting -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:22 AM To: CF-Community Subject: 600 at Guanatanamo bay:US not accountable to any court. "After U.S. forces a