Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-17 Thread Dana
yeah but you are buying into the whole "does not want to run against mvd database = wrong somehow." Purging the voter rolls two weeks before an election doesn't give a lot of time for legitimate voters to find out they are affected and deal with the issue, and that may be what that is about. I don'

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
I don't get San Diego, and given the relatively low numbers, I would guess it's more carelessness, etc. than anything. Ohio, on the other hand, could once again determine the election. The current system is especially egregious because you can register and vote at the same time, making it very eas

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Judah McAuley
I know that too which makes it seem weird. You *know* that republicans in San Diego are going to challenge Acorn. If they think that Acorn is registering people likely to vote Democrat, they have a motive to make sure that every single registration is more than solid and potentially to discourage t

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
San Diego is solidly Republican, but California is solidly Democratic overall. What that means, I have no idea. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Judah wrote: Regardless of Ohio though, what is the rationale for places like > California? If they concentrated on a couple states like Ohio and > re

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Judah McAuley
I've been saying that Democrats stand a chance to win this year because elections in Ohio are run by a Democrat this year not a Republican. Ah, maybe she learned a thing or two from Ken Blackwell? Seriously though, I hope that gets resolved quickly. I really don't want another voting debacle, it i

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Judah wrote: > > As for number 3, I don't know. I just don't see it. From everything > I've read, the voter registration systems are pretty good. You'd have > to have at least a couple thousand votes in key states that you expect > to be close (like Ohio and Florid

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
you really should do domethng about your reading skills. I say this as a homeschooling parent. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you just call me good lord? > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ::shrug:: is that supposed to hu

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Sam
Did you just call me good lord? On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ::shrug:: is that supposed to hurt my feelings? good lord. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic r

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
::shrug:: is that supposed to hurt my feelings? good lord. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's sad. > I mean to think you home-schooled and all:) > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> true... I have a bunch of emails right now

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Sam
That's sad. I mean to think you home-schooled and all:) On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > true... I have a bunch of emails right now saying don't take the lead > for granted. I dunno... just doesn make sense to me. But neither does > most of what Sam says. > ~

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
true... I have a bunch of emails right now saying don't take the lead for granted. I dunno... just doesn make sense to me. But neither does most of what Sam says. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I'm not quite getting 2 or 3 either. I've thought abo

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Yeah, I'm not quite getting 2 or 3 either. I've thought about them. But folks on the left are getting inundated with emails about making sure there is no complacency. I think that an 8 point lead that is really 2 because 6 points is registration fraud would be bad for the leading campaign. You saw

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
ok let's see... elections officials in cuyahohga county ohio were convicted of rigging the vote in 2004 (in the state that provided the decisive electoral votes for Bush) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/19/AR2007011900429.html?nav=hcmodule and what we are worried abo

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
::eyeroll:: wouldn't it be as likely (or more) to cause democrats to stay home since their guy supposedly has a lead? On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The answer was likely already posited by Judah. It's the polls... When you > factor in "likely voters" us

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Here come the G-men: > This sounds so ... familiar ... Where have I heard about DOJ-rules violations - by the DOJ - just before an election before? H. I've got it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Schlozman#ACORN_voter_registration_prosecutions Just five days before

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
Actual vote fraud in Ohio uncovered by student journalists: http://www.palestra.net/videos/play/17241 On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Jeff wrote: > The answer was likely already posited by Judah. It's the polls... When > you > factor in "likely voters" using the new system which includes bu

RE: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Jeff Garza
lls said so... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: ACORN under FBI investigation There are only three possible reasons I can think of that such widespread over-registration by ACORN

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Robert Munn
There are only three possible reasons I can think of that such widespread over-registration by ACORN could be happening: 1. a very unfortunate coincidence 2. a concerted campaign to inflate the voter rolls and thereby influence public opinion about momentum (witness all the stories about the wave

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
yep, we've seen democratic corruption before. it happens. But I don't understand what the motive wold be either. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm fine with an investigation but I still don't understand the motive > behind this supposed wide-spread fra

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm fine with an investigation but I still don't understand the motive behind this supposed wide-spread fraud. Could someone explain to me how this would benefit ACORN, Obama or Democrats in general even if there was a widespread, coordinated attempt to put through sham voter registrations? That'

Re: ACORN under FBI investigation

2008-10-16 Thread Dana
yeah! can't have that! > ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, says it > has registered 1.3 million young people, minorities and poor and > working-class voters—most of whom tend to be Democrats. ~| Ad