Even CNN admits it's misleading
A closer look: How many school shootings since Newtown?
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I just showed my age, didn't I?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Sam wrote:
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>>
>> What's that, like a dvd :)
I just showed my age, didn't I?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Sam wrote:
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> What's that, like a dvd :)
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >
> > The things I care about that I have not mentioned on this list could
> fill a
> > set of encyclopedias. Don't assu
What's that, like a dvd :)
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> The things I care about that I have not mentioned on this list could fill a
> set of encyclopedias. Don't assume stuff like that.
>
>
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When it's relevant I will. Right now we have the HuffPo with a BS
headline trying to drum up some rage. I see It worked.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I am sure it is. However, HuffPo is not the only ones guilty of that. Not
> saying its right, not by nay stretch of
The things I care about that I have not mentioned on this list could fill a
set of encyclopedias. Don't assume stuff like that.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Damn, I was actually wrong once. Mark this day folks.
>
> So do you care about all the murders in Chicago? Because I
This isn't a feeling issue my friend.
Words have meanings and you are intentionally spreading misleading
information.
What would you call it?
On Jun 12, 2014 12:47 PM, "GMoney" wrote:
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> It is not a lie. I feel them useless, but don't feel like debating you
> about it.
>
> Please don't call m
Damn, I was actually wrong once. Mark this day folks.
So do you care about all the murders in Chicago? Because I don't
remember you ever complaining about them.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Umm...yea you did.
>
> 'Yeah, just a shooting, like the 940 you don't give
I am sure it is. However, HuffPo is not the only ones guilty of that. Not
saying its right, not by nay stretch of the imagination, but if you are
going to slam HuffPo for this behavior, you need to slam more conservative
'news' sources that do the same.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Sam wro
It is not a lie. I feel them useless, but don't feel like debating you
about it.
Please don't call me a liar, I say what I believe to be true.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> So your cool with lying about a tool, gotcha.
>
> Because you wrote:
>
> "Probably because they
Umm...yea you did.
'Yeah, just a shooting, like the 940 you don't give a shit about unless
it happened on school property.'
Pretty clear.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Sam wrote:
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> I never said you don't give a shit, I was trying to focus your rage on
> the real issue.
>
> .
>
> On Thu
That's the huffingtonpost's target audience.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I think it only causes the comparison in the feeble minded who jump to
> conclusions before actually looking at the facts.
>
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I never said you don't give a shit, I was trying to focus your rage on
the real issue.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Do you really think so low of me that you automatically assume I 'don't
> give a shit' about someone because of where they were when they got shot?
>
I think it only causes the comparison in the feeble minded who jump to
conclusions before actually looking at the facts.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Including Newtown in the title causes the comparison. I'm sure it was
> accidental.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:16
So your cool with lying about a tool, gotcha.
Because you wrote:
"Probably because they are useless to society, other than to go on killing
rampages."
Which is an obvious lie. You are repeating words you know for a fact aren't
true. At a minimum society gets law enforcement and military utilit
Do you really think so low of me that you automatically assume I 'don't
give a shit' about someone because of where they were when they got shot?
Sad. Truly, sad.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Yeah, just a shooting, like the 940 you don't give a shit about unless
> it happe
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:00 PM, GMoney wrote:
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>
> Put another way, statistically speaking, going to school is still the
> safest way to get educated :)
>
>
I could not find a single instance of someone who was homeschooled shooting
up their school. So, 'going to school' may be the 2nd safest
Yes i did, because I didn't want to rehash that old discussion. We get
nowhere with it.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> And the part you didn't quote provided multiple things that these tools can
> be utilized for that aren't spree shootings.
> On Jun 12, 2014 12:22 PM,
And the part you didn't quote provided multiple things that these tools can
be utilized for that aren't spree shootings.
On Jun 12, 2014 12:22 PM, "GMoney" wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> > It had no mind, it is not sentient.
> >
> > Applying morality to an ina
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
> It had no mind, it is not sentient.
>
> Applying morality to an inanimate object is ridiculous.
>
I agree, but applying utility is completely logical.
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I won't bore you by linking the thousands of stories of self defense with
them.
I won't bore you with the videos of wounded warriors doing "range therapy"
at three gun competitions.
I just want you to read this.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
Keeping in mind that the 19
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:51 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> This is an obvious attempt at making the mad man school spree killing
> appear to happen more frequently than it actually does.
>
It does NOT happen frequently. School shootings are kind of like plane
crashes...they are extremely rare, but
Seriously though.
I dislike the "for the kids" mentality used by both sides to push their
agenda.
This is an obvious attempt at making the mad man school spree killing
appear to happen more frequently than it actually does.
Much the same way I hate that the media has people thinking that we are
Including Newtown in the title causes the comparison. I'm sure it was
accidental.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I think people are automatically assuming that 'school shooting' equates to
> 'mass school shooting on the level of Sandy Hook and Columbine'.
>
> I think
Yeah, just a shooting, like the 940 you don't give a shit about unless
it happened on school property.
http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings
Let's talk about Chicago.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> 'just a shooting'? Therein lies the problem, unless it i
We can do better, just not the way you think. Why don't we talk about
all the kids getting shot rather than pretend it's a crisis in the
schools. Let's start telling the truth instead of faking outrage.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:05 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> YEs yes, i know, you think this is the
t: Re: All 74 School Shootings Since Newtown, In One Depressing Map
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Sam wrote:
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> So your classification as "school shootings after Sandy Hook" is for
> shock and awe but you are good with that. Pointing out it's fake
> upsets you?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> I think people are automatically assuming that 'school shooting' equates
> to 'mass school shooting on the level of Sandy Hook and Columbine'.
>
I think that was the intention of the graphic, if it's the one I have seen.
Even if it wasn't th
I think people are automatically assuming that 'school shooting' equates to
'mass school shooting on the level of Sandy Hook and Columbine'.
I think that assuming the intent was to imply that there were 74 'mass
shootings' is a bit short sighted - and a smokescreen to the real problem.
is the ti
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Sam wrote:
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> So your classification as "school shootings after Sandy Hook" is for
> shock and awe but you are good with that. Pointing out it's fake
> upsets you?
>
> A shooting on school property at night, when School is out, is just a
> shooting. Nothing to s
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> Uh, most of those I would still classify as school shootings. Person
> bringing gun on campus and killing people...I don't care if it is "because
> of gang activity".
The Grady High School shooting is from my school district in Atlanta. G
YEs yes, i know, you think this is the best we can do.kids shooting
kids. Uhmerika!
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Whatever it takes to sell to the masses the need to disarm America.
> I think next we should classify any shooting that takes place during
> school hours
So your classification as "school shootings after Sandy Hook" is for
shock and awe but you are good with that. Pointing out it's fake
upsets you?
A shooting on school property at night, when School is out, is just a
shooting. Nothing to see here.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Scott Stroz
Whatever it takes to sell to the masses the need to disarm America.
I think next we should classify any shooting that takes place during
school hours as a "school shooting:.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:28 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> We now live in an America where we need to classify and rank the lev
You need to grow a pair.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:58 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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>> The point of the Blaze and twitter posts was to trivialize death. I like
>> to think that you somehow didn't get that and were looking at "stati
We now live in an America where we need to classify and rank the levels of
our school shootings.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> I don't think the intent was to say 'all these shootings are the same as
> Sandy Hook'. I think it may be just the opposite. Pointing out all
I don't think the intent was to say 'all these shootings are the same as
Sandy Hook'. I think it may be just the opposite. Pointing out all the
other incidents on (or near) school campuses that we don't hear of (mostly
because they are NOT like Sandy Hook).
Call me a simpleton, but in order for a
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> The point of the Blaze and twitter posts was to trivialize death. I like
> to think that you somehow didn't get that and were looking at "statistic in
> error", because I think of you as a good person. Go back and read. That is
> not how
The point of the Blaze and twitter posts was to trivialize death. I like
to think that you somehow didn't get that and were looking at "statistic in
error", because I think of you as a good person. Go back and read. That is
not how you discuss statistics in error.
And I don't take "I apologize
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Judah McAuley
wrote:
> I'm happy to discuss whether or not a statistic was properly categorized,
> but don't you ever, ever, trivialize the death of a child. This is some of
> the most nauseating crap I've ever read and I really want to see an
> apology.
>
My t
"Fake shooting"...go back to that again and again. Read those tweets and be
ashamed. Every single one of those, people were shot. People were killed.
And that asswipe says "fake shooting" again and again and again.
Scum of the earth.
I'm happy to discuss whether or not a statistic was properly c
Uh, most of those I would still classify as school shootings. Person
bringing gun on campus and killing people...I don't care if it is "because
of gang activity". And shooting yourself on campus in front of other
students...still a fucked up problem with guns at school.
That article in the Blaze?
Did you read nothing from the middle of my last reply?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/10/wow-journalist-attempts-to-debunk-anti-gun-groups-list-of-school-shootings-in-america-since-sandy-hook-heres-what-he-found/
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/146537-everytown-map-74-school-shootings-s
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