RE: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Eric Roberts
declared "Mission Accomplished!" And exactly eight years later, on 1 May 2011, it was. One mission, anyway. That's the problem with OBL's jihad: some whackjob will continue it now that he's dead. For the rest of us, life goes on. May we all live happily ever after. -

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > > They killed Bin Laden, not Al Qaeda. It's not like Victory Day over the > Nazis. I disagree about his relevance, but then we of the West will never know. We'd have to be kids in an Egyptian slum or a London Mosque. Further we have no idea how involved he was with ops and

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Gruss Gott
Maureen wrote: > > moderated.  I still dislike a lot of the actions he took, but I am > convinced that the real evil lay with his handlers and not with him, > and his flaw was that he was not strong enough to stand up to them > once he realized he was being manipulated.  It was quite a revelation

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Maureen
What I am trying to do is write a non-biased book, and I am willing to change my mind when presented with facts. The irony of you ridiculing me for admitting that my opinions have changed only shows your true character. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Sam wrote: > > The comedy in you writing a

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2011-05-02 Thread PT
You know, I never stopped to think about it, but most people, including me, still think of it as us and "them" ... those people over there. A stable Middle East is in everyone's best interests. Before they started protesting, I felt like we were forcing change and introduction to the "modern"

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Robert Munn
They killed Bin Laden, not Al Qaeda. It's not like Victory Day over the Nazis. Bin Laden ceased being relevant years ago. He's barely been heard from - amazing considering where he lived. There must be a sense of catharsis with this guy's death. I'm thinking Obama may use the moment to push for an

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Ras Tafari
my only thoughts were: 1. it's about fucking time 2. great, what kinda retribution can we expect now 3. i hope that america's morons dont make us look like more bumbling idiots than we already do 4. this is how most women must feel after sex... i shaved my legs for that?! On Mon, May 2, 2011 at

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"In a country of 300+ million, a few thousand people at a few places celebrating, doesn't really amount to a 'national celebration', in my mind." But it isn't news to say a fraction of a percent of the population where celebrating in the streets. "To me, I think the vast majority of Americans d

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Tony Weeg
a slight bit of embarrassment that it took all that Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On May 2, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Yeah, what is there to really celebrate about? It took arguably the best > military in the world hundreds of millions of dollars and almost 10 years to

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Judah McAuley
I agree with all of this. I was surprised and had a bunch of feelings that mixed sadness and a bit of gladness that at least one thing was accomplished. Of course the way in which this went down raises a large number of questions. Bin Laden wasn't in a cave in Tora Bora, he and his family were li

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2011-05-02 Thread Vivec
I see it as an excuse to throw OBL parties on Wednesday! On 2 May 2011 12:40, G Money wrote: > > To me, I think the vast majority of Americans did what probably most of us > did, let out a big sigh, smiled a little bit, maybe reflected or prayed > again for the people who lost their lives on tha

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread G Money
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:00 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > I'm with you on this one Scott - my co-host sent me a text message > asking if we wanted to do a special episode this evening and I said > no. > > Don't get me wrong, I'm a self-proclaimed war monger and it doesn't > break my heart to s

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
When a Jew hears that someone has dies, the first thing they say (traditionally) is "Baruch Dayin Emes" which literally translates to "blessed is the true judge". It's generally accepted as "I'm sorry to hear that" etc. Some don't want to say it for Bin Laden. I, on the other hand, can think of no

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> I think sometimes people take this whole touch feely metaphysical >> thing too far. > > Don't get me wrong, I am happy he is dead, I just think that > celebrating the way some have just feels.wrong. Its hard for me to > pinpoint why. I'm with you on this one Scott - my co-host sent me a te

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
How are Arab Americans reacting to the death of Bin Laden? http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/obl050211/s_b20_50204541.jpg ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1

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2011-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Not really celebrating the death, as much as the end of a long, hard > road against this man and what he did to the world. Not too sure about that..I read reports that the crowd out side the White House were singing 'hey, hey, hey...good bye' >

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Ray Champagne
Yeah, what is there to really celebrate about? It took arguably the best military in the world hundreds of millions of dollars and almost 10 years to find and kill one man. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Earlier, a friend of mine posted this on Twitter: > > Celebration

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Vivec
Not really celebrating the death, as much as the end of a long, hard road against this man and what he did to the world. Would you be against people celebrating the death of Hitler? I think sometimes people take this whole touch feely metaphysical thing too far. Let the people , the families, th

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Earlier, a friend of mine posted this on Twitter: Celebrations are happening when humility is called for. That sums up exactly how I feel. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Maureen wrote: > > "Somewhere in Saudi a young Muslim terrorist is watching footage of > people cheering in America and thi

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Sam
The comedy in you writing a super biased book and then realizing what a fool your were...but not enough. When you become adult enough on a topic than you should write. . On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Maureen wrote: > > As you know if you have read much of what I've posted over the last 12

RE: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Jacob
Final departing words for Osama Bin Laden... Dear Osama, Go F**k yourself. I think I speak for all 300 million Americans when I say Go Burn in Hell! Sincerely Jacob -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:50 PM To: cf-community Subject:

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread G Money
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Maureen wrote: > > As you know if you have read much of what I've posted over the last 12 > years, I hated George Bush. But lately something very interesting has > happened. I'm writing a novel that is loosely based on the events of > 9/11. When I started writ

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Aye. We watched CNN last night and Wolf kept saying 'This will be a moment where everyone remembers where they were when they heard the news.' And another guy, can;t recall his name, kept saying (very dramatic-like) 'Osama Bin Ladenis dead' On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Maureen wrote: >

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Maureen
I am glad he is dead. I am already sick to death of the media frenzy - nothing but generic rhetoric and overblown cliches. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I was just thinking. To some, the public celebrations here are no > different than those we have seen where people ce

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I was just thinking. To some, the public celebrations here are no different than those we have seen where people celebrate the deaths of our soldiers. Sadly, I find it extremely difficult to disagree with Chad Holtz' comment. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Maureen wrote: > > "Somewhere in Saud

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Maureen
"Somewhere in Saudi a young Muslim terrorist is watching footage of people cheering in America and thinking to himself, "Those Christians are not so different from us after all." -- Chad Holtz On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I am kind of disappointed by the 'celebrations'

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Tony Weeg
idk why but I'm kinda like, meh, bfd Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On May 2, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I am kind of disappointed by the 'celebrations' that occurred (maybe > still occurring) around the country. > > I know this will help bring closure to a lot of people, b

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I am kind of disappointed by the 'celebrations' that occurred (maybe still occurring) around the country. I know this will help bring closure to a lot of people, but to carry on the way some have...well...to be honest...it disgusts me. On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Vivec wrote: > > President

RE: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Obama in response to bin Laden death: "Anybody else wanna see my birth certificate?" *Drops mic, walks away.* -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confir

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Maureen
JSOC - Joint Special Operations Command http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Special_Operations_Command HELO - Helicopter KIA - Killing in Action - Osama, his son, a courier, and a woman used a shield. CAS- Casualty - one of the helicopters crashed OBL - Osama Bin Laden DevGRU - Sepcial Warfare Deve

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Vivec
>From Facebook: To summarize: 40 minute JSOC raid; two helos, one drone; 4 KIA, inc OBL; DevGru (Seal Team Six) did shooting; only cas was US helocopter Can someone translate? :-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! h

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Vivec
twitpic crashing tonight :-\ On 2 May 2011 00:14, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > why don't I think this was an accident? > > http://twitpic.com/4s76an ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Cold

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Maureen
As you know if you have read much of what I've posted over the last 12 years, I hated George Bush. But lately something very interesting has happened. I'm writing a novel that is loosely based on the events of 9/11. When I started writing it, the character of the President was truly evil. But

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
why don't I think this was an accident? http://twitpic.com/4s76an On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > It really makes me rethink Obama's jokes and participation at the > White House Correspondent's Dinner the other night. > > Knowing that this was in the offing. > > Th

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
It really makes me rethink Obama's jokes and participation at the White House Correspondent's Dinner the other night. Knowing that this was in the offing. That is a pretty tough man, and makes me think about the constant burden of things we have no idea he is going through. It really makes me r

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Vivec
George Bush, 2006: "I truly am not that concerned about him" (Bin Laden), he is "not a priority". http://tinyurl.com/mawof ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/143027215

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Vivec
RT @zpower and I now have an answer to the "democrats are soft on defense" argument that's good for at least 10-15 years. On 2 May 2011 00:02, Vivec wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GNwpF9RoM > Ben Lion! > > Trini calypso > > Which bars are open on a Sunday!!! ^_^ > ~~~

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Vivec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GNwpF9RoM Ben Lion! Trini calypso Which bars are open on a Sunday!!! ^_^ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoff

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Good, we got Bin Laden. Can you please stop touching my junk, now, at airports? Pretty please? On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Closure? Hundreds of millions?  Mwhahahahhaa ~| Order the Adobe Coldfus

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Jerry Barnes
It's about time. Good speech by President Obama. J - The Utopian schemes of levelling, and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable, as those which vest all property in the Crown, are arbitrary, despotic, and in our government unconstitutional. Now what property can the colonis

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Ray Champagne
Closure? Hundreds of millions? Mwhahahahhaa! Sent using a tiny keyboard. Typos imminent. On May 1, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Closure...the benefit will be Psychological for the victims, and so many > others. > > The hundreds of millions spent in the hunt as wellall the death

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Vivec
Closure...the benefit will be Psychological for the victims, and so many others. The hundreds of millions spent in the hunt as wellall the deaths in the pursuit of him (and others). So Closure. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread PT
Maybe morale for the troops and people in the area, but otherwise, *yawn* On 5/1/2011 10:55 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Yeah, the media is going bug nuts about how major this is. In > reality, it's totally meaningless. Bin Laden has been nothing more > than a boogie man used to drum up support for t

RE: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Eric Roberts
I doubt it...they seem like a pretty fluid organization... Personally I think it is more of an embarrassment that it took us this long to find him...almost 10 years...rather than a huge victory. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 09:50

Re: Bin Laden dead. US Confirmed

2011-05-01 Thread Maureen
Yeah, the media is going bug nuts about how major this is. In reality, it's totally meaningless. Bin Laden has been nothing more than a boogie man used to drum up support for the wars for years. Even Bush said he wasn't important. Wag that dog. On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Vivec wrote: > >