RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ok...   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:57 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   Bush. Saw the clip. "That's just... um... guessing."   Dana   - Original Messa

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
yeah, like that nasty election that's dividing the nation :) - Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:58 -0400 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anything that divides the

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Specious logic and blatant jingoism. -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:58 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anything that divides the country helps the enemy. There is a difference between informing people about what is going on and leaking secret intelligence reports about what may

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
Anything that divides the country helps the enemy. There is a difference between informing people about what is going on and leaking secret intelligence reports about what may happen. > Do the leaks really help the enemy in any tangible way? Perhaps > instead they help the American people to know

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
Bush. Saw the clip. "That's just... um... guessing." Dana - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:14 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quote from

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
El Presidente Bush > Quote from who? >> And yes, that is a quote. Though later he did say that he had misdispronounciated himself. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscriptio

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Quote from who? -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   he would? Seems to me that positive reports were read, negative ones   dismissed as "

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
30 Sep 2004 16:02:26 -0500 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Dana, yup.  I thought you were leaving for a bit ... are you back? - Original Message - From: dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:54:51

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Hey Dana, yup.  I thought you were leaving for a bit ... are you back? - Original Message - From: dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:54:51 -0600 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruss, You are refer

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
you are equating Bush's political interests with the best interest of the country. - Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:27:21 -0400 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
Gruss, You are referring to Plan of Attack, correct? - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:52:04 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Guss, Thanks for this post.  Very

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
he would? Seems to me that positive reports were read, negative ones dismissed as "just guessing". And yes, that is a quote. - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:53:02 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to in

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Always a concern.  Frankly, this filtering is a management nightmare. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:34 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   Andy Ousterhout wrote

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote: > Come-on folks, do really believe that the only reports created and sent to > Bush positively supported the war? No. But I am not so sure about the ones that actually passed through the filters and reached his desk. Jochem [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Robert Munn wrote: > The real question to ask here is who in the CIA leaked these > documents? There is a faction in the CIA that clearly wants the > President to fail I would describe it as 'protect their own position'. The people who wrote that report are intelligence professionals, and when B

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It depends on who is the enemy.Take the recent cases of CIA operatives being outed by administration personnel. That was intended to weaken a Democratic position. There may be others who are pissed at the current administration and find it appropriate to leak damaging information. This sort of thin

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Won Lee
At 12:30 9/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Do the leaks really help the enemy in any tangible way? Perhaps >instead they help the American people to know what is going on and to >better decide their leadership. I think intelligence leaks may help the enemy.  Just like leaving your door unlocked may fa

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Do the leaks really help the enemy in any tangible way? Perhaps instead they help the American people to know what is going on and to better decide their leadership. -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:27:21 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The real question to ask here is who in the CIA

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
The real question to ask here is who in the CIA leaked these documents? There is a faction in the CIA that clearly wants the President to fail and is actively trying to undermine the Administration in it's efforts in Iraq. This is shameful and possibly criminal behavior and the people responsible f

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Guss, Thanks for this post.  Very interesting.  Not surprising. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:42 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   The truth is in Bob Woodward's

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
he did it. The Vulcans and others had different ideas, but for Mr. Bush is just as he told Mr. Woodward. - Original Message ----- From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:53:02 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No it probably had too many big words for him to understand. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:46:59 -0400, Harkins, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it arrived whiles Bush's readers were on holiday! ... > > >-Original Message- > >From: Howie Hamlin > > > > > >Prewar Assessment on Iraq Saw

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
.  More non-news on slow news day. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:47 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   Maybe it arrived whiles Bush's readers were on ho

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Maybe it arrived whiles Bush's readers were on holiday! ... >-Original Message- >From: Howie Hamlin > > >Prewar Assessment on Iraq Saw Chance of Strong Divisions >By DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID E. SANGER Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscrip