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> From: Harkins,Patrick [mailto:HarkinPA@;MapleLeaf.ca]
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:34 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
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>
> just a comment
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Haley [mailto:DanH@;telect.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject:
errorist?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:25 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
>>
>> but its the persons motives that make him/her a terrorist. IF he&#
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:46 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
But he is causing terror?
Doesn't a Publicist Publicize?
Doesn't a typist type?
Doesn't a pianist play the piano?
If this were the case wouldn't somebody who
People who cause terror are terrorists. I am saying there is major problem
with the idea that terrorists only attack because of political or social
motivations.
At 12:31 PM 10/24/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>So is a serial killer who preys on prostitutes a terrorist because the
>prostitute community
don't know.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:55 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
> >
> > Not to mention this is the center of our
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
>
> but its the persons motives that make him/her a terrorist. IF he's
just
> f'ing crazy he's not a terrorist...if he's doing it to fight th
CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
>
> I disagree to an extent with the definition. Even if the motive doesn't
> prove to be pointing towards these things, the reaction from the people
> in the area was one of fear. There were people living in fear.
>
> Peop
Depending on which neighborhood you live in, this can happen in D.C.,
Chicago, New York, LA, Atlanta...etc, etc. Heard of drive by shootings?
Innocent victimes of gang warfare. In a lot of ways, middle class America
just got a taste of what life in the inner city can be like.
-d
>Thats not media
SO like, in a way, the US has a terrorist-wanna-be government. Want to bomb
Iraq, and install fear in less powerful nations
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From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:55 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
24, 2002 12:10 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
I agree, the motive, while important should not be a required factor.
The question to ask, Were people in fear because of the actions of this
person or group?
In this case the answer is clearing yes. How this is not terrori
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
> Yeah, the lack of control would be a big factor. Again, it's easy for me
to
> spout from many miles away. The WTC terror and this aren't comprehendable
>
t]
> [connecting people, places and things]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:17:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
>
> > Now we know why some were shot in the head and some where onl
e
and what not.
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From: Paris Lundis [mailto:PLundis@;areaindex.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:27 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
the kid at the school was black...
Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
> Maybe it was a game shoot the crackers? Or was the little kid shot
> black?
There were numerous non-white victims. Also, we don't know for sure if
they have the right people, right?
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
The Children's Medical Center
One Children's Plaza
Dayton, OH 45404
937-6
s.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:36 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
Exactly :) you got your opinion I'll have mine.
I don't always think death is the way to go but for some people I make an
exception. :-)
And though the electric chair will give them 5 -1 0 se
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From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:43:06 -0500
Subject: CONSTITUTION - RE: CNN NEWS break
> Come on guys whatever happened to DUE process. THese guys are just
> suspects. As much as we want to believe t
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:43 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: CONSTITUTION - RE: CNN NEWS break
>
> Come on guys whatever happened to DUE process. THese guys are just
> suspects. As much as we want to believe they are the ones we're
looking
> for, we have to keep an o
[mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com]
Sent: Thursday, 24 October, 2002 12:46 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
George Carlin---
You can make light of anything. Like rape! Rape can be funny. How about
this...Elmo raped Ernie (audience laughs)
hahaha. I'm not sure it was elmo and
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From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
> it's going to be interesting to see what made these two tick...
>
> Obvio
William.
Death in any form is not to be made light of.
Unless you have too, in a military circumstance...
execution, though needed at times.
should be viewed as a solemn delivery of justice.
not cruelty or torture.
just my opinion..
peace
-paul
~
w if there is a punishment good enough to fit this
crime.
M
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From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:36 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
Exactly :) you got your opinion I'll have mine.
I don't always
The Bushmaster site is maxed out on connections. For those who are
wondering, the Bushmaster .223 looks pretty much like a M16.
-Kevin
> -Original Message-
> From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: CNN NEWS
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:11 PM
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> it's going to be interesting to see what made these two tick...
>
> Obviously, I suspect they are sympathizers nontably to the whole
> Afghanistan/Al Q conflict... ahh war...
>
know for
>sure. Man I would be pissed if I was the suspect and everyone knew my name
>and what not.
>
>
>
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>From: Paris Lundis [mailto:PLundis@;areaindex.com]
>Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:27 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: CNN NEWS
- my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:MHaggerty@;mbda.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
>
> Those of you who've seen the original Heavy Metal might know
He..uhh..shot them.
People get shot everyday in Washington DC.
Could you be buying into the Media Hype?
-Gel
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:MHaggerty@;mbda.gov]
I am opposed to capital punishment and have supported causes to this
end. But what he did to those people!
No. He killed them, but he also terrorized the countryside. I think that's a pretty
big one.
Judith
He..uhh..shot them.
People get shot everyday in Washington DC.
Could you be buying into the Media Hype?
-Gel
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:MHaggerty@;mbd
unsuspecting person to walk into
his cross hairs
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From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
> He..uhh..shot them.
>
>
yup, (poor) people get shot everyday in (SE) DC.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jdinowit@;houseoffusion.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
No. He killed them, but he also terrorized the countryside. I think
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> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:gel@;silkcotton.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:42 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
>
> Right.
>
> When is the last time Washington had a serial murderer, or a serial
> rapist?
> String of 7-11
> Compared to that, someone shooting 11 people with a gun is murder, and
> should be treated as such by the court of law.
What if I wore a bomb into a nightclub, and it blew but somehow it only
killed 11 people? Is that terrorism then or "just murder"?
~~~
Yes, people do get shot everyday in Washington DC, and I think that
depending on the crime they should get the death penalty.
> -Original Message-
> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:gel@;silkcotton.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE:
Shot 13 people, killed 11. But that is just a stat
This is a form of terrorism, just as blowing up a string of night clubs.
One killed a lot of people; the other didn't kill as many.
In both cases the people who caused the problems should be dealt with.
One in a court of law; the other, maybe in
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From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:30:07 -0400
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
> Dude getting shot in a robbery yea thats something that happens
> sometimes.
> But some fucked up dude sittin in wait to just shoot you
ursday, October 24, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
> Right.
>
> When is the last time Washington had a serial murderer, or a serial
> rapist?
> String of 7-11 robberies etc.
>
> If it wasn't for the Media Hype 90% of people would not have been as
> worried,or h
> This is a form of terrorism, just as blowing up a string of night clubs.
> One killed a lot of people; the other didn't kill as many.
I was wondering how quickly people would use the "terrorism" label here. The
word terrorism is a loaded one, but most experts limit the definition to
acts that ar
dia and their method of reporting?
>
> I am of the opinion that it was the latter.
>
> -Gel
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:48 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
>
>
There's a difference between reporting the news,
and sensationalising the news in order to instill fear in a population,
Or play to certain political influences.
-Gel
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From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
It will be treated as murder..
But think of it ;)
1:30 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
Dude getting shot in a robbery yea thats something that happens
sometimes. But some fucked up dude sittin in wait to just shoot you
for...for sport thats something different.
Thats not media hype..thats YOU could get shot being outside just
be
uch ... but it may be buffered by 3,000 miles or so ...
Dan
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From: Angel Stewart [mailto:gel@;silkcotton.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:55 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
Fine..but then were all Serial murderers terrorists? I've never seen
the
being that way, i dont even get CNN
on tv anymore.
I listen to NPR most of the time or BBC.
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From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: CNN N
own
actions, not the news media trying to play up a story. Any suggestion to the
contrary is nonsense.
M
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From: Angel Stewart [mailto:gel@;silkcotton.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:28 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
There's a difference b
What was this
Random people get killed for
> using their neighbors phone (a couple of days ago that happened near
here).
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From: "Dan Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002
*strained civility in voice*
I am talking about the little pink elephant walking across my keyboard.
I thought that would have been QUITE obvious from my previous posts.
*trumpets*
-Gel
Making Life A Little More Surreal For A Better Tomorrow.
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From: William Wheatley [ma
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Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Haley [mailto:DanH@;telect.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:35 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
>
> Angel,
&
install fear in a
population. Whatever the motive this dewd is a terrorist in my eyes.
Tim
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From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:MHaggerty@;mbda.gov]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:39 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
Where do you live?
I live right outside
s right and it went into sensationalism instead of
news coverage.
Dan
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From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: CNN NEWS break
What was this
Random people get killed for
> using their neighbors phon
pping, eating, going to school, getting gas.
This is why these people should be considered terrorists.
> -Original Message-
> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:gel@;silkcotton.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
&g
Most murders are committed by someone the victim knows. So its not like its
common to have people randomly shot as they walk down their suburban street,
or go shopping at their local shopping center.
~|
Archives: http://www.house
ommunity
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
> > This is a form of terrorism, just as blowing up a string of night
clubs.
> > One killed a lot of people; the other didn't kill as many.
>
> I was wondering how quickly people would use the "terrorism" label
here.
&
ses ...
I just wonder if the news honchos salivate privately at what this kind of
thing does to their bottom line.
Dan
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:50 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
Dan,
Consider thi
You don't have to be supporting a terrorist organization to cause
terror.
These guys were causing terror, at least fear.
> -Original Message-
> From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject
mothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
>
> Not to mention this is the center of our nations government. It did
> directly effect many people (myself included) who are in government
>
CTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: CNN NEWS break
> Not all, but yes. In this case more so because there wasn't a defined
> target or location, the sniper crossed the gender and racial lines. They
> we
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