Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Maureen wrote: > Moot point, red herring and standard disinformation technique. Yup. This is a question of federal policy not individual action. Otherwise we could ask Mr. Bush if he was willing to put himself into massive debt to fund the bridge to nowhere (although it would rank among his be

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Maureen
Moot point, red herring and standard disinformation technique. When you can't dispute the message, attack the messenger. If Michael Moore gave every single penny of his money to Katrina survivors, Bush and his band of incompetents would still be in power, put there by the very people Moore desc

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Dana
You know... regardless of his politics, he has a point. Dana On 9/12/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, > >or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. > > This is why I called Moore a Leftist (a ph

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Dana
were born" > > the Scottish Rogues > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 01:44 pm > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Micha

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > This is why I called Moore a Leftist (a phony Leftist, anyway) and not a > liberal. > In general, a liberal is somebody who believes that a federal gov't is best way to solve social problems via broad powers and tax dollars. They believe in the effectiveness of "super-organiza

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
However considering George Soros, its possible to do well by doing good. larry On 9/12/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sir Ike wrote: > >> So you're saying it's impossible to become wealthy > >> without being a greedy, insensitive capitalist who > >> daily walks all over the b

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
>> Sir Ike wrote: >> So you're saying it's impossible to become wealthy >> without being a greedy, insensitive capitalist who >> daily walks all over the backs of hard-working >> lower-class people? > In many ways, yes. Capitalism is about competition > and so every winner is stepping on someone.

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Robert Munn
> 1. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, >or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. This is why I called Moore a Leftist (a phony Leftist, anyway) and not a liberal. ~| Find o

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread G
i know, that's what I just said, and apologized for. > by using the term liberal and equating it with something entirely > different you are using the same tactics as many right wing nut jobs. > Liberal != socalist. > > larry > ~

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread John Dowdell
G wrote: > Aren't people on the far left, the true "liberals", people who generally > cast a suspicious eye on capitalism Something like that is indeed how the term has been redefined over the past few decades. But for most of its life that term has been use more for an emphasis on decentr

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
by using the term liberal and equating it with something entirely different you are using the same tactics as many right wing nut jobs. Liberal != socalist. larry On 9/12/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, i'll play the semantic game. > > - I shouldn't have said "liberal" when i meant "socia

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread G
Ok, i'll play the semantic game. - I shouldn't have said "liberal" when i meant "socialist". Because even though most socialists are liberals, not all liberals are socialists. - Consversely, i'll try not to say "conservative" when i mean "right wing religious nut job". Because even though most r

RE: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread SStewart
2, 2005 01:44 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore Importance: Low I see you enjoy stereotyping people. What a bald assed over generalization. On 9/12/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is what liberals believe. > &

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No, just dislike the bias that being shown. As for true liberals, this link may explain it: http://www.liberal.ca/history_e.aspx Liberal, as from dictionary.com - note that none of these definitions agree with your right wing bias. 4 entries found for liberal. lib·er·al Audio pronunciation of

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread G
Geeesh...i hit a nerve? Aren't people on the far left, the true "liberals", people who generally cast a suspicious eye on capitalism >I see you enjoy stereotyping people. What a bald assed over generalization. > > On 9/12/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That is what liberals believe. >>

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I see you enjoy stereotyping people. What a bald assed over generalization. On 9/12/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is what liberals believe. > > > > So you're saying it's impossible to become wealthy without being a > > greedy, insensitive capitalist who daily walks all over the backs o

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread G
That is what liberals believe. > So you're saying it's impossible to become wealthy without being a > greedy, insensitive capitalist who daily walks all over the backs of > hard-working lower-class people? I'm not saying he's not a greedy > capitalist, just that it seems like a non-sequitur to me

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sir Ike wrote: > So you're saying it's impossible to become wealthy without being a > greedy, insensitive capitalist who daily walks all over the backs of > hard-working lower-class people? In many ways, yes. Capitalism is about competition and so every winner is stepping on someone. The more

RE: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Ken Ketsdever
+1000 -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:42 PM As I have said before, Michael Moore is a capitalist entertainer posing as a Leftist, and this letter does nothing to change my opinion of him. Michael Moore is a capitalis

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
So you're saying it's impossible to become wealthy without being a greedy, insensitive capitalist who daily walks all over the backs of hard-working lower-class people? I'm not saying he's not a greedy capitalist, just that it seems like a non-sequitur to me... > I'm not suggesting he give away a

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-12 Thread Robert Munn
I'm not suggesting he give away all of his money, just most of it. Let him keep ten or twenty million himself, that's only a fraction of his wealth, but still more than most people see in a lifetime. :-) I am exaggerating the point to highlight the hypocrisy of his position. He is a self-made m

RE: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-11 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael > Moore > > As I have said before, Michael Moore is

Re: Fw: A Letter to All Who Voted for George W. Bush from Michael Moore

2005-09-11 Thread Robert Munn
As I have said before, Michael Moore is a capitalist entertainer posing as a Leftist, and this letter does nothing to change my opinion of him. Here is my question to Mr. Moore: Mr. Moore, Would you donate all the proceeds from Farenheit 9/11 to help the people you claim the Republicans have