thing and all that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:29 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
>
>
> actually, I understood it that way. Just could not keep myself f
Meh, I'm nuts. I hope I've been behaving somewhat better of late, trying to
do the right thing and all that.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:29 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launch
to be funny.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:07 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
>
>
> wow. Did you, *you*, just call someone a hater? LOL.
>
> On Su
Jokes don't pas well in text, it was off hand and meant to be funny.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:07 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
wow. Did you, *you*, just call some
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Scott Stro wrote:
>
>
> Then again, what sane person would actually want the job of President of
> the
> United States? ;)
1. a masochist
2. someone who is very much over-confident
3. a moron who has no idea what they are getting themselves into
4. a power-hungr
I don't recall ever calling our president a lunatic. I may have inferred
that some of his devout followers may be, but never called him a lunatic.
Then again, what sane person would actually want the job of President of the
United States? ;)
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> exc
>Well look at negative Nancy. All gloom and doom. How do you figure WWIII
>would ensue? Are there really that many countries that would come to the
>aid of North Korea?
NOrth Korea has over a million soldiers in arms. That's enough to be worried
about. South Korea as just over 100,000. . Seven
yea. It's astonishing that one day he can advocate bombing countries
into the stone age because they have sports that involve the heads of
goats, and then he can write something that thoughtful.
Props to Scout.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Scout, I have a whole new r
except that I didn't think you were one of them?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> A lot of people in a lot of countries would argue we are not run by a
> lunatic.
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, so don't do it retroactively. Do it activ
wow. Did you, *you*, just call someone a hater? LOL.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:31 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Hater.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:50 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re:
assical liberal roots, where individual freedom meant
> everything, rather than trying to export Jeffersonian democracy to people
> that don't want it while slashing the rights I for one hold dear.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modu
Scout, I have a whole new respect for you.
+lots
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:54 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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y to people
that don't want it while slashing the rights I for one hold dear.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 2:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
That's what it alwaysls
Tea bag them before they tea bag you. :)
Fortunately, people are starting to protest. Tea party protests are
> springing up around the country, organized by people who are sick of
> creeping government power over their lives.
>
~~~
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael G wrote:
> In the 70's it seemed that the citizens of the
> US were always protesting and trying to take action to ensure that the
> government stayed in check and acted with honour. These days though it
> seems
> there's an attitude of complacency. That
But...but...but...its Obama...change we can belive in and all that.
The world was in love with him last fall. What happened?
On 4/5/09, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Not anymore.
>
> And I think you'd be very surprised by what a lot of countries (your best
> allies included) say about your country.
Not anymore.
And I think you'd be very surprised by what a lot of countries (your best
allies included) say about your country.
But they're just haters.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> A lot of people in a lot of countries would argue we are not run by a
> lunatic.
>
>
A lot of people in a lot of countries would argue we are not run by a
lunatic.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Ok, so don't do it retroactively. Do it actively. Start now. Or tomorrow
> since it's the weekend.
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>
Ok, so don't do it retroactively. Do it actively. Start now. Or tomorrow
since it's the weekend.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I fail to see your point. Its not like we can go back and retroactively
> disarm America.
>
> Bush was more idiot that lunatic, I don't think
Ok, we'll use your terms. So I'm also for other lunatics being ousted, as
long as it's the citizens of that country doing the ousting.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
> > I wouldn't really call Bush finishing his
I fail to see your point. Its not like we can go back and retroactively
disarm America.
Bush was more idiot that lunatic, I don't think he has the mental capacity
for hatred the way the Iranian and North Korean leadership does.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> >
> > th
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
> I wouldn't really call Bush finishing his maximum legal presidential term as
> "ousted."
Perhaps you missed the whole McCain running for office thing? And
that there was a reason he wasn't elected? And that the reason was
Bush? And that R
I wouldn't really call Bush finishing his maximum legal presidential term as
"ousted."
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
> > What about your last eight years?
>
> That regeime has been ousted. Even more argument fo
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
> What about your last eight years?
That regeime has been ousted. Even more argument for doing it elsewhere.
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>
> there is one compelling
> similarity, both countries are run by lunatics.
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> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
>>
>> Hater.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:50 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: North Korea defies
nd must be
> stopped. Starts with "H" and ends with "ypocrisy."
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> >
> > Hater.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> > Se
ael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:50 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
>
>
> Heck no. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to have them. But
> since
> most everyone else has them
Hater.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:50 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
Heck no. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to have them. But since
most everyone els
I honestly don't think the great leader gives two shits about that.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:52 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
Hmmm. Ending up as a radioactive sm
unity
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
What I believe and don't believe isn't the issue. Do I think N.Korea (or any
other other sovereign nation) should have the same rights as western
nations? Yup.
I think it's cute that you see the world as the "goo
How is that?
Even the Chinese told them not to do this.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:43 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: North Korea defies world, launches missile
... and some starting of WW III and some ending of
France and Germany will try to water down and/or delay any resolution
because their companies are supplying to NK. Russia and China will block any
resolution just to piss of the US. And the UN Human rights council will hold
a special session to conf
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Vivec wrote:
Heh, yeah, because we know that North Korea has such love for their
people. Well, I supposed that the leaders do not want to be killed, but
still, I do not trust them in any way, shape or form.
Michael Grant wrote:
> Hmmm. Ending up as a radioactive smoking hole in the ground five mintues
> aft
>
> If you can't believe O, who can you believe?
Absolutely no one.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes. It's just wrong for a country to lie isn't it?
> > Heck the good guys would never do that. Just ask Colin Powell, he'll tell
> > you.
> > http://www.w
Uhhh..The only country that has been insane enough to actually use Nuclear
weapons is the United States.
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Come one...that was the Bush Administration. This is the Obama
administration with its openness and change. If you can't believe O, who
can you believe?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Yes. It's just wrong for a country to lie isn't it?
> Heck the good guys would nev
Yes. It's just wrong for a country to lie isn't it?
Heck the good guys would never do that. Just ask Colin Powell, he'll tell
you.
http://www.webstylus.net/wmd.htm
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> So, you believe the North Koreans, who, in my opinion, have a reason to lie
I don't think any American can ver forget that. I look at it as kind of
like inmates telling kids to stay out of jail. Gives us a rather unique
perspective.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> Heck no. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to have them. But since
> mo
Heck no. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to have them. But since
most everyone else has them (despite the fact they were supposed to have
been dismantled) I think it levels the playing field. Don't forget the US is
the only country that's ever used them.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM,
Hmmm. Ending up as a radioactive smoking hole in the ground five mintues
after they launch?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> And what exactly is their incentive to not use them, and how does this
> provide balance?
>
> Michael Grant wrote:
> > I don't think it's a matter
So, you believe the North Koreans, who, in my opinion, have a reason to lie
about it, but don't beleive everyone else (who may have a reason to lie
about it, but can't really come up with one).
I bet the satellite will be used to helpd Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and
the Tooth Fairy make their
No, I stated what the article that was posted said. Did you even read it?
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> You were the one who brought your belief into this by statign that you
> think
> they actaully launched a satellite.
>
> You mean western nations like China, India a
Did I miss a briefing? LOL
Scott Stroz wrote:
> Come on Bruce, get with the Contingency Plan. Its the new thing...everyone
> should have nuclear weapons.
>
>
>
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I am sure Obama's new Overseas Contingency Plans will handle this with some
group therapy sessions. After all, just like terrorists, the North Koreans
are just a little misunderstood.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> I'm glad you want to "here" my solution. "Hear" it is
Come on Bruse, get with the Contingency Plan. Its the new thing...everyone
should have nuclear weapons.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> And what exactly is their incentive to not use them, and how does this
> provide balance?
>
> Michael Grant wrote:
> > I don't think i
And what exactly is their incentive to not use them, and how does this
provide balance?
Michael Grant wrote:
> I don't think it's a matter of N.Korea having a ton of buddies as much as
> the US having lots of enemies. Do I think it's good idea for N.Korea to have
> nukes? Of course not. Do I thi
You were the one who brought your belief into this by statign that you think
they actaully launched a satellite.
You mean western nations like China, India and Pakistan?
I bet you think its a good idea for Iran to have nuclear weapons too.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
What I believe and don't believe isn't the issue. Do I think N.Korea (or any
other other sovereign nation) should have the same rights as western
nations? Yup.
I think it's cute that you see the world as the "good guys" and the "bad
guys." Guess what, the difference between the two is how effecti
I don't think it's a matter of N.Korea having a ton of buddies as much as
the US having lots of enemies. Do I think it's good idea for N.Korea to have
nukes? Of course not. Do I think they would use them if they had them?
Nope. Do I think it's a good idea for there to be some balance in the world?
I thinks its cute that you believe that. Probably the only one on earth who
does.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
>
> N.Korea launched a satelite into orbit. We do it all the time.
>
>
>
--
Scott Stroz
---
The democracy will cease to exist when you take aw
Well look at negative Nancy. All gloom and doom. How do you figure WWIII
would ensue? Are there really that many countries that would come to the
aid of North Korea?
And do you think that having a nuclear North Korea is such a great idea?
What with the thousands of US military and civilians jus
I'm glad you want to "here" my solution. "Hear" it is.
*drum roll* > Nothing.
N.Korea launched a satelite into orbit. We do it all the time.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> What do you think should be done? Obviously you think we are wrong, lets
> here your solution.
*satellite that is. I have no idea what a satelite is.
2009/4/5 Michael Grant
> I'm glad you want to "here" my solution. "Hear" it is.
> *drum roll* > Nothing.
>
> N.Korea launched a satelite into orbit. We do it all the time.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>>
>> W
it satellite launching
equipment, in the coming months. It will take one of them failing and
blowing up in Japan for the international community to do anything (or for
Japan to do something unilateraly).
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:32 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: No
I just heard that the French surrendered to North Korea.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/ap_on_re_as/as_nkorea_missile
>
> So they have breached UN Resolution which prohibits them from launching any
> missiles.
> What's the UN Security Counci
What do you think should be done? Obviously you think we are wrong, lets
here your solution.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> >
> > But the UN has proven time and again that it is
> > useless in situations like this.
> >
> That's true. It was useless at getting the US
>
> But the UN has proven time and again that it is
> useless in situations like this.
>
That's true. It was useless at getting the US not to illegally invade Iraq.
So if it can't get "the good guys" to listen good bloody luck getting "the
baddies" to.
~~~
... and some starting of WW III and some ending of the world as we know it.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Probably try to get the UN to authorize the use of force, and of course
> that would fail. And by force, I am thinking some well placed tomahawk
> missiles and som
Probably try to get the UN to authorize the use of force, and of course
that would fail. And by force, I am thinking some well placed tomahawk
missiles and some bombing runs.
Vivec wrote:
>> :-)
>>
>
> HmmSo what do you think Bush would have done?
>
It does not matter what Bush would have done. This is Obama's game now.
/me grabs some popcorn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> >:-)
>
> HmmSo what do you think Bush would have done?
>
> 2009/4/5 Jeff Garza
>
> >
> > The Obama administration will instruct the
> > protoco
I never suggested a war. But the UN has proven time and again that it is
useless in situations like this.
Let Security Council vote unanimously to condemn this. It will do about as
much as the CF-Community mailing list voting unanimously to comdemn it (but
I bet a few here would vote against i
+1 for the Floyd reference
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Jeff Garza wrote:
>
> I'm sure that the security council will unanimously condemn this action and
> order that Santa put coal in their stockings and that they'll get no
> pudding
> until they eat their meat. The Obama administration w
>:-)
HmmSo what do you think Bush would have done?
2009/4/5 Jeff Garza
>
> The Obama administration will instruct the
> protocol office to ensure that any DVDs given as a gift to N. Korea (when
> we
> have face to face meetings with them with no pre-conditions) are of the
> wrong region.
>
I'm sure that the security council will unanimously condemn this action and
order that Santa put coal in their stockings and that they'll get no pudding
until they eat their meat. The Obama administration will instruct the
protocol office to ensure that any DVDs given as a gift to N. Korea (when
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
>
> Is the US going to do anything about this?
>
Yeah, I think the White House graphic design department got to work...
Overseas Contingincy Plan (Korea)
with a nice web 2.0 star-burst, but instead of beta, Korea.
~
Ya, starting a war with them is a much better idea. Good thing the US is
laden with extra cash right and has no other military commitments.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> They are going to speak harshly to them and put them in 'time out'.
>
> The UN is fucking useless
I am sure that Obama is going to instruct them to play along with the
rest of them.
Vivec wrote:
> So is the US going to do anything? Given that your statement seems to
> ascribe inaction to the Body of the UN...
>
> The US is one of the countries with perhaps the largest say on the UN
> Securit
So is the US going to do anything? Given that your statement seems to
ascribe inaction to the Body of the UN...
The US is one of the countries with perhaps the largest say on the UN
Security Council.
Is the US going to do anything about this?
2009/4/5 Bruce Sorge
>
> Ohh, I want to play!
> Ho
Ohh, I want to play!
How abouthmmm, this is such a hard question. Well, I guess based
on the past history of the UN, I am going to say that they are going to
condemn this act, perform an exercise in futility by authorizing some
sort of sanctions against a country that really has nothing
They are going to speak harshly to them and put them in 'time out'.
The UN is fucking useless when it comes to shit like this.
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
> What's the UN Security Council going to do now?
>
>
>
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